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  #21  
Old September 21st, 2003, 07:17 PM
Patty Winter
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Sorry, a quick OT tongue-in-cheek comment...

In article ,
TheNewsGuy(Mike) wrote:

"...After days of delays, Canadian rescuers landed at a South Pole
research station Saturday to pick up an ailing American contractor.


Kudos to them, and best of luck to everyone on getting back safely.

A TV movie of the week starring David James Elliott as JAG pilot
Harman Rabb, Jr. would be appropriate. LOL!


With Harm's record of crashing planes?? (Including the very last scene
of last season's finale.) Not a good idea! :-) :-)


Patty

  #24  
Old September 22nd, 2003, 12:57 AM
Trudi Marrapodi
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In article , "Claude Marcil"
wrote:

Congratulations, NewsGuy. Well done.

Nice to have "undisputable concrete arguments" like this one.


What's so "undisputable and concrete" about it? It's an example of ONE
American news source that stupidly excised Canadian identification from a
news story...probably under the stupid delusion that its audience would
not notice or care. But that doesn't mean the audience would really not
notice, or not care.

It's sort of like blaming Americans for their own TV networks' bad Olympic
coverage. Every two years, be it Winter Games or Summer Games, a favorite
sport of many Canadians is to watch American coverage of the Olympics and
then bash it, and all of America, for how jingoistic and annoying and
soap-operatic it is compared to the Canadian coverage. Well, guess
what...some Americans DO want to see something of the Olympics besides,
"USA, USA, USA." Some DO want to see the actual events, rather than weepy
profiles of the athletes that tell about how little Johnny from Kokomo
wants to win a gold medal in honor of his dying goldfish. But does what we
want to see matter? No. What matters is whatever the pathetic network
covering the Olympics wants to show us...and usually that's jingoism and
soap opera, because it THINKS that's what we want. *sigh*

Maybe with more of these, with time, our southern friends could wake up to
the fact that BIG BEST AND BETTER is not restricted to USA, a country that
is slowly but surely slipping down.

Unfortunatly, the average everybody american is kept in his bubble by his
leaders and his UNBIASED news networks be it written, audio or video.

Sad.


You know, if I may say so, this is one thing that irritates me about
*some* (note I did not say "all") Canadians. They sit around and pat each
other on the back all the livelong day about how terrible it is that
Americans are so ignorant of them. Then that argument segues into
chest-thumping as they start in on how much better Canada is than the
U.S., and how isn't it just too bad those poor deliberately ignorant
Americans don't realize it.

It gets rather tiresome after a while...especially when you're an American
who a) isn't ignorant of Canada; b) doesn't think the U.S. is perfect; c)
doesn't depend on nothing but her own country's media and politicians for
news and information.

It gets really tiresome to have any Canadian automatically assume that I'm
an ignorant chest-thumping American, when the truth is, they're closer to
being a knee-jerk superpatriot than I ever will be.

Please, people...as I said before...don't make the mistake of judging a
country by its media OR its politicians. The media spew what they THINK
the public in a given country wants or cares about...but that doesn't mean
they are always right. And the politicians are usually not elected by the
majority, but by the people who were fanatically enough in favor of this
candidate or that one, or fanatically AGAINST one of the candidates, to
bother to go out and vote in the first place. A sad commentary, I know,
but true. The fact that these people won an election doesn't mean they
have a mandate to govern; it just means that their handlers were more
successful than someone else's handlers. Or that they spent more money, or
something.
--
Trudi
  #26  
Old September 22nd, 2003, 04:47 AM
Patty Winter
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In article ,
Trudi Marrapodi wrote:

You might try not taking the work of *one* American media outlet and using
it as an excuse for Canadians to get frustrated with *all* Americans...


Unfortunately, when that "one outlet" is the Associated Press, that's
the version of the story that most newspapers in the country will use. :-(

I just checked Google News, and I had to go back several days before
I finally found a U.S. media outlet that mentioned anything--even in
passing--about Canadians being involved in this rescue. And that was
a quote from Canadian Press that AP included in a story.


Patty

  #28  
Old September 22nd, 2003, 05:27 AM
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:57:19 -0400,
etent (Trudi Marrapodi) wrote:

In article , "Claude Marcil"
wrote:

Congratulations, NewsGuy. Well done.

Nice to have "undisputable concrete arguments" like this one.


What's so "undisputable and concrete" about it? It's an example of ONE
American news source that stupidly excised Canadian identification from a
news story...probably under the stupid delusion that its audience would
not notice or care. But that doesn't mean the audience would really not
notice, or not care.

It's sort of like blaming Americans for their own TV networks' bad Olympic
coverage. Every two years, be it Winter Games or Summer Games, a favorite
sport of many Canadians is to watch American coverage of the Olympics and
then bash it, and all of America, for how jingoistic and annoying and
soap-operatic it is compared to the Canadian coverage.


So, why arent't they watching the Canadian coverage? Of course,
if Canadian TV only concentrated on Canadian participation in the
Olympics they'd only be on the air an hour a week.

Well, guess
what...some Americans DO want to see something of the Olympics besides,
"USA, USA, USA." Some DO want to see the actual events, rather than weepy
profiles of the athletes that tell about how little Johnny from Kokomo
wants to win a gold medal in honor of his dying goldfish. But does what we
want to see matter? No. What matters is whatever the pathetic network
covering the Olympics wants to show us...and usually that's jingoism and
soap opera, because it THINKS that's what we want. *sigh*


Yeah. American Olympic TV coverage does pretty mcu suck these
days.

Maybe with more of these, with time, our southern friends could wake up to
the fact that BIG BEST AND BETTER is not restricted to USA, a country that
is slowly but surely slipping down.


How so?

Unfortunatly, the average everybody american is kept in his bubble by his
leaders and his UNBIASED news networks be it written, audio or video.

Sad.


You know, if I may say so, this is one thing that irritates me about
*some* (note I did not say "all") Canadians. They sit around and pat each
other on the back all the livelong day about how terrible it is that
Americans are so ignorant of them. Then that argument segues into
chest-thumping as they start in on how much better Canada is than the
U.S., and how isn't it just too bad those poor deliberately ignorant
Americans don't realize it.

It gets rather tiresome after a while...especially when you're an American
who a) isn't ignorant of Canada; b) doesn't think the U.S. is perfect; c)
doesn't depend on nothing but her own country's media and politicians for
news and information.


I've lived in Canada and I was appalled at how little Canadians
actually knew about the USA save, of course, the Hollywood stuff
and the big-time political stuff.

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  #29  
Old September 22nd, 2003, 06:55 AM
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Trudi Marrapodi wrote:
In article , "Claude
Marcil" wrote:

Congratulations, NewsGuy. Well done.

Nice to have "undisputable concrete arguments" like this one.


What's so "undisputable and concrete" about it? It's an example of ONE
American news source that stupidly excised Canadian identification
from a news story...probably under the stupid delusion that its
audience would not notice or care. But that doesn't mean the audience
would really not notice, or not care.

snip

Then you are the exception to the rule.

This Canadian almost bit his tongue off sitting in a comedy club in
Hicksville USA while the comic was lumping Canada's not joining the war in
Iraq in with France and Germany's decision to veto... We had our soldiers in
Afghanistan, we tried to broker a deal in the UN to end the stalemate, we
sat in the preparations and planning in Florida with the other coalition
forces, our ships in the region went out of their way to bend the rules and
escort your carriers... but because we made a decision that was not in line
with the USA we were ridiculed and made to feel unwelcome in your country
(slashed tires, negative media...). Canada's position (despite what Rush
Limbaugh might believe) was to give the UN inspectors a few more weeks
before intervening...

Your President, mistake or not, did not recognize the major steps we took to
help secure the air space on 9/11 and to accept *all* inbound and diverted
flights on that very sad day. We did everything we could to make US and US
bound passengers comfortable for several days. Yet Canada's unprecedented
help did not even get a thumbs up from your President. No one knew if there
were any more terrorists in the air, yet Canada steped in.... This Canadian
witnessed a US fighter escort a commercial jet right into our airport.
Turned out to be communication problem on the comercial jet but...

snipped a bunch of drunken dribble (mine, not yours:-)

I think its time to shut this thing down before I start talking about
illegal softwood duties. LOL

Have a good day!






  #30  
Old September 22nd, 2003, 07:25 AM
TNSAF
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Trudi Marrapodi wrote:
In article ,
"TheNewsGuy(Mike)" wrote:

...snip...


This is just one (of many) examples of why Canadians get frustrated
with our friends to the south. When there is news about "SARS" or
"Mad Cow", the word "Canadian" is promenant but to hide the fact
that this daring rescue is being orchestrated by brave Canadians, in
a Canadian aircraft, is subtly hidden from the American public.

GEEZ!


You might try not taking the work of *one* American media outlet and
using it as an excuse for Canadians to get frustrated with *all*
Americans...


On several occasions the US media was all over FBI reports that terrorists
had entered the US through Canada. When the reports were proven false they
did not report retractions with the same fervor, if at all. Believe it or
not there are still Americans out there that believe the terrorests entered
through Canada and not through your own airports.


 




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