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Don Wiss wrote:
I see. That was three years ago. Unless they added a bunch between June 2005 and now, they are pretty much gone. Either beat up, being kept and not being returned to the racks. Well, 20Kr IS pretty cheap for a new bike! |
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"erilar" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: We want to visit the castles of Denmark, see some beaches, tour some Viking museums and see the sites of Denmark. Castles? I take it you mean the American definition of "castle"? What's the american version of Castle? here is a typical Scandinavian one: http://wictor.dk/wictor/frederiksborg/frbslotGB.html tim |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 21:46:41 -0400, Don Wiss wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Frank Clarke wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:37:05 -0400, Don Wiss wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Frank Clarke wrote: Copenhagen is littered with public-use bicycles (20Kr deposit) which you can use to get around the city easily. When you return the bike to a rack for the next person's use, you get your 20Kr back. And how long ago was this? I was there in June 2005. Never did I find a functioning bicycle available to use. All were in use, or had been damaged. I ended up renting. 2003: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/mvsrexx/2003SK/DSC00516.html I see. That was three years ago. Unless they added a bunch between June 2005 and now, they are pretty much gone. Either beat up, being kept and not being returned to the racks, or the demand far exceeds the supply, and it is rare that you can find one available. That's too bad. I guess socialism doesn't work after all... And it seemed lke such a good idea! (change Arabic number to Roman numeral to email) |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Frank Clarke wrote:
That's too bad. I guess socialism doesn't work after all... And it seemed lke such a good idea! Well, it was working in Arhus in June 2005. Though they started the program in May 2005. Maybe someone from there can fill us in on how it's working? In 2001 when I was in Switzerland it worked well. Both in Zurich and Berne they have a couple locations where you could pick them up. The locations were manned. You turned over your passport and they gave you a bike. You have to return them the same day, by nightfall. But then you get one again the next morning. Don www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom). |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:01:27 +0100, tim(yet another new home) wrote:
What's the american version of Castle? He's assuming that Americans don't know what a castle is and believe that all castles look like Disneyland, because they sometimes refer to Neuschwanstein as a "castle". Its most likely just sarcasm (I would hope). The postcards sold at Neuschwanstein's visitor's center label the palace as "Royal Castle Neuschwanstein" and the English title bar of the official homepage shows it as "Neuschwanstein Castle", so apparenly the Germans don't know what a castle is either. There's a BBC writeup on the "castle" that doesn't even mention that its not really a castle, so apparently some Brits don't know either. Maybe it if wasn't built to look sort of like a castle, people wouldn't call it that. -- -BB- To e-mail me, unmunge my address |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, BB wrote:
The postcards sold at Neuschwanstein's visitor's center label the palace as "Royal Castle Neuschwanstein" and the English title bar of the official homepage shows it as "Neuschwanstein Castle", so apparenly the Germans don't know what a castle is either. Germans have at least two words for "castle", Schloss (compare Danish "slott") and Burg (not to talk of Veste and Festung which are probably more alike to "fortress"), neither of which is of latin origin. There is also "Palast" (do not know the Danish equivalent, in Norway is "pale-et") which is obviously related to "palace". Neuschwanstein is a Schloss, so the translation as "castle" is all right. In Italian it would be called a "castello". I admit that the German Schloss has a wider semantic field than the Italian castello (or the English castle as far as I can say). There are some buildings which in Germany are called Schloss but to me are more alike to royal or ducal palaces. Let's say that all buildings called Burg and most of those called Schloss fit in my definition of castello / castle, since they are fortified or have mockup fortified towers. After all the word derives from latin "castellum", diminutive of "castrum", a military encampment. Cannot comment on french "chateau", I do not have a wide experience. Just to add a note, "palace", "palazzo" and alike should derive from Latin "Palatium", I suppose from the roman imperial palace located on the Palatine hill (which had such place name well in advance), so I suppose originally they indicated a royal palace or the seat of other ruling house. In Italian the word "palazzo" preserves such meaning, but it has been extended to indicate any multi-storey building. So almost everybody in a city who lives in an apartment building or condominium, lives in a "palazzo". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- is a newsreading account used by more persons to avoid unwanted spam. Any mail returning to this address will be rejected. Users can disclose their e-mail address in the article if they wish so. |
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Giovanni Drogo wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006, BB wrote: The postcards sold at Neuschwanstein's visitor's center label the palace as "Royal Castle Neuschwanstein" and the English title bar of the official homepage shows it as "Neuschwanstein Castle", so apparenly the Germans don't know what a castle is either. Germans have at least two words for "castle", Schloss (compare Danish "slott") and Burg (not to talk of Veste and Festung which are probably more alike to "fortress"), neither of which is of latin origin. There is also "Palast" (do not know the Danish equivalent, in Norway is "pale-et") which is obviously related to "palace". The Danish terms are equivalent to the German: Slot or Borg (Schloss,Burg). In common use the distinction is not very clear. You have Amalienborg Slot, Rosenborg Slot etc. The term "Palads" or "Palace" is only used for non-Danish palaces like Versailles, Beckingham Palace (little joke..he,he) etc. -- Kristian |
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Dave Smith wrote: wrote: We want to visit the castles of Denmark, see some beaches, tour some Viking museums and see the sites of Denmark. What is a good way to get around. Bicycle is not possible. Train? rent a car? Bus? I didn't think that Denmark was particularly famous for castles but the Kronborg castle in Elsinore is within walking distance of the train station, or a very short taxi ride. Bornholm has a rather impressive castle - but it's a long bike ride from Copenhagen. B; |
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