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"kittykat" wrote in message ... if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to court, would the same rules apply marion Yes, the Rehabilitation Of Offenders Act 1974 does not apply, as US is outside UK jurisdiction for us visa, must declare everything. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 17/09/2004 |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:26:11 +0100, "Stef"
wrote: To be honest that was what I was going to do but as from October 26, you have to be fingerprinted going in to the US and I'm afraid it will show up then (Email sent from laptop hence different id) Loads of people travel to the US under the visa waiver scheme with arrests/cautions/convictions. They may fingerprint you but are not going to do a full search on the UK database - think about logistics/costs involved. Just try not to seem guilty as you talk to the immigration bloke at the airport - he'll look at your passport ask you some questions and send you on your way - especially if you have previous US stamps in the passport. |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:26:11 +0100, "Stef"
wrote: To be honest that was what I was going to do but as from October 26, you have to be fingerprinted going in to the US and I'm afraid it will show up then (Email sent from laptop hence different id) Loads of people travel to the US under the visa waiver scheme with arrests/cautions/convictions. They may fingerprint you but are not going to do a full search on the UK database - think about logistics/costs involved. Just try not to seem guilty as you talk to the immigration bloke at the airport - he'll look at your passport ask you some questions and send you on your way - especially if you have previous US stamps in the passport. |
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kittykat wrote:
if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to court, would the same rules apply You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken identity. It stinks, I know, but remember this is from the country that practises unlimited detention without trial and without evidence. |
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kittykat wrote:
if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to court, would the same rules apply You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken identity. It stinks, I know, but remember this is from the country that practises unlimited detention without trial and without evidence. |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:25:51 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had to declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your file on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any police station. Suggest the OP reads the thread we had around a month ago: http://tinyurl.com/4qv2d Executive summary: The US Embassy London website clearly states you need a visa if you have ever been arrested OR if you have a criminal record. The State Dept. website clearly states you only need a visa if you have a criminal record. I'd believe the State Dept. At worst, it's a perfectly good excuse. The fingerprinting is a red herring; it's all about catching people who are on the run *in the USA*, and making sure they do a better job of keeping track of people entering the country than they did pre-9/11. They don't run your prints past Scotland Yard! Mike http://www.corestore.org For sale: Al Qaeda rifle. Never fired. Dropped once. |
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In message , Harry The
Horse writes kittykat wrote: if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to court, would the same rules apply You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken identity. What's the difference between an "unlawful arrest" and an "abduction". Do kidnap victims have to declare that they've been (unlawfully) "arrested"? -- Mike |
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In message , Harry The
Horse writes kittykat wrote: if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to court, would the same rules apply You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken identity. What's the difference between an "unlawful arrest" and an "abduction". Do kidnap victims have to declare that they've been (unlawfully) "arrested"? -- Mike |
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sniper wrote:
Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human rights records of any country in the world today. |
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sniper wrote:
Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human rights records of any country in the world today. |
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