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Old April 1st, 2007, 07:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
Keith Willshaw
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"JWBH" wrote in message
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I will have to make a journey on a regular basis (mainly at weekends) from
north london U.K. (finchley central) to edenbridge in kent, which is due
south of london.


Train would be favourite for me. Tube to Charing Cross and then the
Uckfield train

The online RAC route planner tells me if i go all the way around the M25
instead of going down through the centre of london is will be almost
exactly *twice* the milage. the time scale they estimate for both routes
is very similar, being within ten minutes of the other route.

Since my son drives we would travel pretty briskly on both routes. The car
is a twelve year old toyota corolla 1.3 GL.


You wont be going briskly through central London and dont run into the
congestion charge zone.

Just off the top of your head, which way of travelling, either down
through London or going around the M25, is likely to work out the most
'economical' purely from the petrol consumption point of view? thanks.


On a weekend I'd head down the A1 to Archway, cut across to Hackney
and take the Blackwall tunnel onto the A20 and then round the M-25
but getting lost would be easy, it'd probably be better

Keith


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Old April 1st, 2007, 07:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
Keith Willshaw
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"Pete M" . uk wrote in
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In ,
JWBH wittered on forthwith;
I will have to make a journey on a regular basis (mainly at weekends)
from north london U.K. (finchley central) to edenbridge in kent,
which is due south of london.

The online RAC route planner tells me if i go all the way around the
M25 instead of going down through the centre of london is will be
almost exactly *twice* the milage. the time scale they estimate for
both routes is very similar, being within ten minutes of the other
route.
Since my son drives we would travel pretty briskly on both routes.
The car is a twelve year old toyota corolla 1.3 GL.

Just off the top of your head, which way of travelling, either down
through London or going around the M25, is likely to work out the
most 'economical' purely from the petrol consumption point of view?
thanks.


the most sensible thing to do is leave the blighted and inferior South and
move up north where we don't have these problems.


Right - all those cars on the M6 and M62 around Manchester move
freely I suppose !

Keith


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Old April 1st, 2007, 08:18 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
Timo Geusch
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Keith Willshaw wrote:


"JWBH" wrote in message
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The online RAC route planner tells me if i go all the way around
the M25 instead of going down through the centre of london is will
be almost exactly twice the milage. the time scale they estimate
for both routes is very similar, being within ten minutes of the
other route.

Since my son drives we would travel pretty briskly on both routes.
The car is a twelve year old toyota corolla 1.3 GL.


You wont be going briskly through central London and dont run into the
congestion charge zone.


The OP said they were travelling mostly on weekends. As long as they're
avoiding the charging zone during the cash cow hours, I don't see a
problem.


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  #14  
Old April 1st, 2007, 08:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
Conor
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In article , Keith Willshaw
says...

"Pete M" . uk wrote in
message ...
In ,
JWBH wittered on forthwith;
I will have to make a journey on a regular basis (mainly at weekends)
from north london U.K. (finchley central) to edenbridge in kent,
which is due south of london.

The online RAC route planner tells me if i go all the way around the
M25 instead of going down through the centre of london is will be
almost exactly *twice* the milage. the time scale they estimate for
both routes is very similar, being within ten minutes of the other
route.
Since my son drives we would travel pretty briskly on both routes.
The car is a twelve year old toyota corolla 1.3 GL.

Just off the top of your head, which way of travelling, either down
through London or going around the M25, is likely to work out the
most 'economical' purely from the petrol consumption point of view?
thanks.


the most sensible thing to do is leave the blighted and inferior South and
move up north where we don't have these problems.


Right - all those cars on the M6 and M62 around Manchester move
freely I suppose !

Far more freely than the M25 IME. At least outside the times of 7.30-
10am and 4pm-6.30pm you can get a move on. Last time I went from the M1
to the M4 I was surprised to find the traffic still crawling along at
Midday.


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until you hear them speak.........
  #15  
Old April 1st, 2007, 08:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
Adrian
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Pete M . uk) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying :

I will have to make a journey on a regular basis (mainly at weekends)
from north london U.K. (finchley central) to edenbridge in kent,
which is due south of london.


the most sensible thing to do is leave the blighted and inferior South
and move up north where we don't have these problems.


So how long would it take to get to his destination in Kent if he lived in,
say, Wakefield...?
  #16  
Old April 1st, 2007, 08:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
Adrian
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Keith Willshaw ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying :

dont run into the congestion charge zone.


Which bit of "Weekends"...?
  #17  
Old April 2nd, 2007, 12:03 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
JWBH
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Thanks to all. interested in the suggestion via to go via blackwall
tunnel. The RAC routefinder tells me if i want to go to blackwall tunnel to
take the north-circular in the easterly direction all the way out to the A12
and then follow it back in on a south westerly direction. Which seems a bit
convoluted to me.

When I ask it for the shortest route to edenbridge from finchley it says:
finchley rd park lane vauxhall bridge streatham A23 croydon
limpsfield crockham hill.

Do you think someone with a lot of driving experience writes in these
programs, or does the computer blindly just do as its told, when asked for
the shortest route?

Since its solution doesn't quite tally up with my own experience??


  #18  
Old April 2nd, 2007, 07:36 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
Adrian
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Default through town or double the milage on motorway?

JWBH ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Thanks to all. interested in the suggestion via to go via blackwall
tunnel. The RAC routefinder tells me if i want to go to blackwall
tunnel to take the north-circular in the easterly direction all the
way out to the A12 and then follow it back in on a south westerly
direction. Which seems a bit convoluted to me.


Have you looked at a map?

Do you think someone with a lot of driving experience writes in these
programs, or does the computer blindly just do as its told, when asked
for the shortest route?


What do *you* think...?
  #19  
Old April 2nd, 2007, 09:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
The Reid
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:00:28 GMT, "JWBH"
wrote:

Just off the top of your head, which way of travelling, either down through
London or going around the M25, is likely to work out the most 'economical'
purely from the petrol consumption point of view? thanks.


I had a similar journey to do for a time. consider the M11, A2 method
off cutting off a big chunk and avoiding the toll taking the eastern
side.
The western side gets horribly congested and you have the pain of the
variable speed limit.
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  #20  
Old April 2nd, 2007, 09:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,rec.travel.europe,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,alt.autos.toyota
The Reid
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 09:33:23 -0700, "d.g.s."
wrote:

On the M25 orbital, there's a good chance of being in stop-start traffic
anyway, isn't there?


not at weekends.
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