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Marketing campaign sinks Cruise Critic
Yes, no arguement here Charles. They will never be sunk.
Cruise Critic is by far the largest forum and are the dominate player in their field. I had a falling out with them a few months ago (totally unrelated issue), and I asked to cancel my membership. The response was "can't do - just stop logging in and that will be fine". So it seems that I am a member for life - and still one of the 424,694 members on the site I will never return to. Regardless of how many members are aggrieved by the Royal Champions issue and decide not to come back to the site, their membership will still increase with each new member - but I wonder how many less ACTIVE members they have since the Champions issue reared its head? Oz On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:41:08 -0400, Charles wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Maybe John should go and take a look at CruiseCritic and he will see that it is alive and doing just fine. I don't know if the Royal Champion threads are still there or not, but I have been on a couple of the boards and they are busy as always. The Cruise Critic forums had 424,694 members a few minutes ago. As a comparison the cruise web forums regarded as number 2, Cruisemates had 37966 users. |
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Marketing campaign sinks Cruise Critic
In article , OZ
wrote: Regardless of how many members are aggrieved by the Royal Champions issue and decide not to come back to the site, their membership will still increase with each new member - but I wonder how many less ACTIVE members they have since the Champions issue reared its head? Their membership is so massive I doubt that any who stop being active will be noticed. If you refresh a page of a board of a popular cruise like Royal Caribbean on their site say in a half hour, there can be dozens of new posts and threads. On other boards that would take days. I don't think many will drop their site in the long term. They will come back. Because Cruise Critic is where the action is. Unfortunately because it is where the action is, there is a lot of crap. The repetition one has to weed through to find any nuggets there is mind numbing. The best place to find good stuff there is the ports of call boards and their roll calls. -- Charles |
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I've run into:
"can't do - just stop logging in and that will be fine" Some sites figure at a future date you might want to come back, so they keep your profile. The software is written to delete your profile and membership information after xx number months, years of inactivity, It is a butt saver. That way no member can complain that someone deleted their account due to some real or imagined slight. So they can say, "I didn't delete your membership. The system did due to inactivity..." -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest friend, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 On 3/21/2009 8:55 AM OZ "tweaked" on too much Starbucks said: Yes, no arguement here Charles. They will never be sunk. Cruise Critic is by far the largest forum and are the dominate player in their field. I had a falling out with them a few months ago (totally unrelated issue), and I asked to cancel my membership. The response was "can't do - just stop logging in and that will be fine". So it seems that I am a member for life - and still one of the 424,694 members on the site I will never return to. Regardless of how many members are aggrieved by the Royal Champions issue and decide not to come back to the site, their membership will still increase with each new member - but I wonder how many less ACTIVE members they have since the Champions issue reared its head? Oz On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:41:08 -0400, Charles wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Maybe John should go and take a look at CruiseCritic and he will see that it is alive and doing just fine. I don't know if the Royal Champion threads are still there or not, but I have been on a couple of the boards and they are busy as always. The Cruise Critic forums had 424,694 members a few minutes ago. As a comparison the cruise web forums regarded as number 2, Cruisemates had 37966 users. -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest friend, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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Marketing campaign sinks Cruise Critic
In article , Brian K
wrote: Some sites figure at a future date you might want to come back, so they keep your profile. The software is written to delete your profile and membership information after xx number months, years of inactivity, It is a butt saver. That way no member can complain that someone deleted their account due to some real or imagined slight. So they can say, "I didn't delete your membership. The system did due to inactivity..." Members can be purged in various ways with the software they use but with so many members they have it would probably be an administrative headache to purge members due to inactivity. They would get too many queries asking what happened to an account. Since they don't mention deleting members for inactivity I think the only members deleted are those that are banned. I did a count on their Royal Caribbean message board, one of their many boards, one which is one of their most active boards. In the 24 hour period there were 152 different subject threads posted to, that means at least one post to those threads, on that particular board that day. They really do have a lot of active members. Cruise Critic is so big now I think they only thing that will sink them is when people in general abandon web site discussion boards for some other form of networking. Like Facebook groups or Twitter. -- Charles |
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Marketing campaign sinks Cruise Critic
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:50:48 -0400, Charles wrote:
I did a count on their Royal Caribbean message board, one of their many boards, one which is one of their most active boards. In the 24 hour period there were 152 different subject threads posted to, that means at least one post to those threads, on that particular board that day. Seriously, rent a life. -- Think first! Before you book a cruise from a two bit lying sleazeball who uses Usenet as free SPAMADVERTISING ground and for purposeful attempts at personal character assassination. Are you next? Think twice before booking with Ray Goldenberg. http://tr.im/hlJv |
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Marketing campaign sinks Cruise Critic
Howdy Brian,
That is all fine - but I requested my account be deleted. I have personal differences with the site, particularly around censorship beyond their site rules, and the tolerance of multi ID users and trolls on the only board that is of interest to me. They have refused to delete the account. Their member list is pretty much everyone that has registered with them. Other forums will have available stats on how many have logged on in the 24hrs - where Cruise Critics only stat is the total members (including dormant and abondoned members). The near 1/2 million members is a crock if only a fraction of them login every month. I am not aware that they activate software to purge memberships. I used to read heaps of old posts, and had read ID's that had not logged on for years. I guess it helps to count non-active members when raking in dollars for advertising on the site. OZ On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:27:20 -0400, Brian K wrote: I've run into: "can't do - just stop logging in and that will be fine" Some sites figure at a future date you might want to come back, so they keep your profile. The software is written to delete your profile and membership information after xx number months, years of inactivity, It is a butt saver. That way no member can complain that someone deleted their account due to some real or imagined slight. So they can say, "I didn't delete your membership. The system did due to inactivity..." -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "The poor dog is the firmest friend, the first to welcome the foremost to defend" - Lord Byron View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 On 3/21/2009 8:55 AM OZ "tweaked" on too much Starbucks said: Yes, no arguement here Charles. They will never be sunk. Cruise Critic is by far the largest forum and are the dominate player in their field. I had a falling out with them a few months ago (totally unrelated issue), and I asked to cancel my membership. The response was "can't do - just stop logging in and that will be fine". So it seems that I am a member for life - and still one of the 424,694 members on the site I will never return to. Regardless of how many members are aggrieved by the Royal Champions issue and decide not to come back to the site, their membership will still increase with each new member - but I wonder how many less ACTIVE members they have since the Champions issue reared its head? Oz On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:41:08 -0400, Charles wrote: In article , Sue Mullen wrote: Maybe John should go and take a look at CruiseCritic and he will see that it is alive and doing just fine. I don't know if the Royal Champion threads are still there or not, but I have been on a couple of the boards and they are busy as always. The Cruise Critic forums had 424,694 members a few minutes ago. As a comparison the cruise web forums regarded as number 2, Cruisemates had 37966 users. |
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:13:16 +1100, OZ wrote:
I guess it helps to count non-active members when raking in dollars for advertising on the site. If you are advertising on a website, and don't know what the valid statistics are, especially those statistics which provide you with information that is relevant to your product (age, geolocation, sex, etc), then you deserve what you don't get. -- Think first! Before you book a cruise from a two bit lying sleazeball who uses Usenet as free SPAMADVERTISING ground and for purposeful attempts at personal character assassination. Are you next? Think twice before booking with Ray Goldenberg. http://tr.im/hlJv |
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Marketing campaign sinks Cruise Critic
In article , OZ
wrote: They have refused to delete the account. Their member list is pretty much everyone that has registered with them. Other forums will have available stats on how many have logged on in the 24hrs - where Cruise Critics only stat is the total members (including dormant and abondoned members). The near 1/2 million members is a crock if only a fraction of them login every month. While I don't see a way to get stats on the number who have logged in, in 24 hours I am not sure what that would represent. The last time I logged in was months ago because I never log out. I may have been logged in a couple of years continuously. They do show the total number of posts. Right now it shows 17,244,137. If I checked again in 24 hours that would give an idea of the activity but it would only show those who posted, not those who merely read the board. Plus you don't have to be a member to read most of their boards. As far as deleting accounts there is no reason for them to bother. The accounts are anonymous and the screen names are fictitious. That is why Royal Caribbean could not directly contact anyone on Cruise Critic. I guess it helps to count non-active members when raking in dollars for advertising on the site. Does it really matter? Log in to any other cruise web site and you can tell empirically that Cruise Critic is by far the most popular. There are hundreds of new threads there every day. On other cruise web sites it can be weeks before a new thread is started. You don't need a count to tell that Cruise Critic is where action takes place. -- Charles |
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Marketing campaign sinks Cruise Critic
In article , Charles
wrote: They do show the total number of posts. Right now it shows 17,244,137. And now 2 hours later the total number of posts is 17,246,804. That is 2,667 new posts in two hours. That indicates a lot of active members. I don't think hey are sinking.... -- Charles |
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