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"Raffi Balmanoukian" a wrote in message news:BD725345.26F03%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREP LY.ns.sympatico.ca... | in article , AlmostBob at | wrote on 9/18/04 8:17 PM: | | AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way, | clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same | reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource | involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of | the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in | the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports. | | | Question: When you swirl Australian wine, which way do you twirl the | glass? Down your throat either way! Jim | |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:02:43 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote: in article , AlmostBob at wrote on 9/18/04 8:17 PM: AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way, clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports. Question: When you swirl Australian wine, which way do you twirl the glass? Towards my mouth. Cheers, Alan -- |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:02:43 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote: in article , AlmostBob at wrote on 9/18/04 8:17 PM: AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way, clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports. Question: When you swirl Australian wine, which way do you twirl the glass? Towards my mouth. Cheers, Alan -- |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:02:43 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote: in article , AlmostBob at wrote on 9/18/04 8:17 PM: AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way, clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports. Question: When you swirl Australian wine, which way do you twirl the glass? Towards my mouth. Cheers, Alan -- |
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In article , AlmostBob anonymous
writes AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way, clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports. From the Urban Legends website http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.htm Claim: Thanks to the Coriolis effect, toilets flush clockwise in the northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern. Status: False. Origins: Because the Earth is a globe spinning on an invisible axis, a point at its equator will make a circuit of 25,000 miles in the space of a day, but any point not on the equator will make a shorter round trip; the closer that point is to either of the poles, the shorter its trip will be. Put another way, a pencil at the equator travels 1,030 miles an hour, whereas another at Sarasota, Florida, moves at 930 miles per hour, and one at the North pole doesn't move at all. This apparent difference in speed results in the Coriolis force, an effect that imparts a twist to largish events happening away from the equator. Best known is its effect on air masses: as they move away from the equator, their speed (which matches that of where they started from) appears to be faster than that of the surface over which they are traveling. This sets them turning in a clockwise twist in the northern hemisphere and a counterclockwise twist in the southern. Likewise, a cannonball fired due north will veer a teeny bit to the east, and one fired to the south will deflect ever so slightly to the west, something a skilled gunner would make an adjustment for. The twisting effect of the Coriolis force is real and does influence certain large things like the movement of air masses, but the effect is so small that it plays no role in determining the direction in which water rotates as it exits from a draining sink or toilet. The Coriolis effect produces a measurable effect over huge distances and long periods of time, neither of which applies to your bathroom. Toilets and sinks drain in the directions they do because of the way water is directed into them or pulled from them. If water enters in a swirling motion (as it does when a toilet is flushed, for example), the water will exit in that same swirling pattern; as well, most basins have irregular surfaces and are not perfectly level, factors which influence the direction in which water spirals down their drains. The configuration of taps and drains is responsible for the direction of spin given to water draining from sinks and bathtubs to a degree that overwhelms the slight influence of the Coriolis force. The belief that the Coriolis force influences the direction in which water drains from plumbing fixtures is widespread and has been repeated as fact in a number of venues, including popular television shows (such as world traveler Michael Palin's Pole to Pole) and even in textbooks. We can only speculate on why people are so enamored of this snippet of misinformation, guessing that it has something to do with the desire to find some of the mysteries of science in the realm of the everyday. -- JohnM Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm |
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In article , AlmostBob anonymous
writes AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way, clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports. From the Urban Legends website http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.htm Claim: Thanks to the Coriolis effect, toilets flush clockwise in the northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern. Status: False. Origins: Because the Earth is a globe spinning on an invisible axis, a point at its equator will make a circuit of 25,000 miles in the space of a day, but any point not on the equator will make a shorter round trip; the closer that point is to either of the poles, the shorter its trip will be. Put another way, a pencil at the equator travels 1,030 miles an hour, whereas another at Sarasota, Florida, moves at 930 miles per hour, and one at the North pole doesn't move at all. This apparent difference in speed results in the Coriolis force, an effect that imparts a twist to largish events happening away from the equator. Best known is its effect on air masses: as they move away from the equator, their speed (which matches that of where they started from) appears to be faster than that of the surface over which they are traveling. This sets them turning in a clockwise twist in the northern hemisphere and a counterclockwise twist in the southern. Likewise, a cannonball fired due north will veer a teeny bit to the east, and one fired to the south will deflect ever so slightly to the west, something a skilled gunner would make an adjustment for. The twisting effect of the Coriolis force is real and does influence certain large things like the movement of air masses, but the effect is so small that it plays no role in determining the direction in which water rotates as it exits from a draining sink or toilet. The Coriolis effect produces a measurable effect over huge distances and long periods of time, neither of which applies to your bathroom. Toilets and sinks drain in the directions they do because of the way water is directed into them or pulled from them. If water enters in a swirling motion (as it does when a toilet is flushed, for example), the water will exit in that same swirling pattern; as well, most basins have irregular surfaces and are not perfectly level, factors which influence the direction in which water spirals down their drains. The configuration of taps and drains is responsible for the direction of spin given to water draining from sinks and bathtubs to a degree that overwhelms the slight influence of the Coriolis force. The belief that the Coriolis force influences the direction in which water drains from plumbing fixtures is widespread and has been repeated as fact in a number of venues, including popular television shows (such as world traveler Michael Palin's Pole to Pole) and even in textbooks. We can only speculate on why people are so enamored of this snippet of misinformation, guessing that it has something to do with the desire to find some of the mysteries of science in the realm of the everyday. -- JohnM Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm |
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In article , AlmostBob anonymous
writes AC, You made so many wrong posts, the water does turn the other way, clockwise in southern hemisphere, ant clockwise in Northern, for the same reasons as Hurricanes Cyclones tropical storms do. Of course the fource involved in the sink is miniscule, so is the amount of water and the scale of the sink compared to a 100 mile wide storm, you obviously have never lived in the southern hemisphere nor watched weather reports. From the Urban Legends website http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.htm Claim: Thanks to the Coriolis effect, toilets flush clockwise in the northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern. Status: False. Origins: Because the Earth is a globe spinning on an invisible axis, a point at its equator will make a circuit of 25,000 miles in the space of a day, but any point not on the equator will make a shorter round trip; the closer that point is to either of the poles, the shorter its trip will be. Put another way, a pencil at the equator travels 1,030 miles an hour, whereas another at Sarasota, Florida, moves at 930 miles per hour, and one at the North pole doesn't move at all. This apparent difference in speed results in the Coriolis force, an effect that imparts a twist to largish events happening away from the equator. Best known is its effect on air masses: as they move away from the equator, their speed (which matches that of where they started from) appears to be faster than that of the surface over which they are traveling. This sets them turning in a clockwise twist in the northern hemisphere and a counterclockwise twist in the southern. Likewise, a cannonball fired due north will veer a teeny bit to the east, and one fired to the south will deflect ever so slightly to the west, something a skilled gunner would make an adjustment for. The twisting effect of the Coriolis force is real and does influence certain large things like the movement of air masses, but the effect is so small that it plays no role in determining the direction in which water rotates as it exits from a draining sink or toilet. The Coriolis effect produces a measurable effect over huge distances and long periods of time, neither of which applies to your bathroom. Toilets and sinks drain in the directions they do because of the way water is directed into them or pulled from them. If water enters in a swirling motion (as it does when a toilet is flushed, for example), the water will exit in that same swirling pattern; as well, most basins have irregular surfaces and are not perfectly level, factors which influence the direction in which water spirals down their drains. The configuration of taps and drains is responsible for the direction of spin given to water draining from sinks and bathtubs to a degree that overwhelms the slight influence of the Coriolis force. The belief that the Coriolis force influences the direction in which water drains from plumbing fixtures is widespread and has been repeated as fact in a number of venues, including popular television shows (such as world traveler Michael Palin's Pole to Pole) and even in textbooks. We can only speculate on why people are so enamored of this snippet of misinformation, guessing that it has something to do with the desire to find some of the mysteries of science in the realm of the everyday. -- JohnM Author of Brazil: Life, Blood, Soul http://www.scroll.demon.co.uk/spaver.htm |
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Idiot,
I am Australian, you know Down Under, Southern Hemisphere, now resident in Canada, Northern Hemisphere. I have actual experience, I do not base my thought on something I have only read, written by someone else who has no idea what they are speaking about. Suggest you travel a bit, get some experience, some knowlege, and in general come back when you get a clue |
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Idiot,
I am Australian, you know Down Under, Southern Hemisphere, now resident in Canada, Northern Hemisphere. I have actual experience, I do not base my thought on something I have only read, written by someone else who has no idea what they are speaking about. Suggest you travel a bit, get some experience, some knowlege, and in general come back when you get a clue |
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after all: is it true or not true?
"AlmostBob" schreef in bericht ... Idiot, I am Australian, you know Down Under, Southern Hemisphere, now resident in Canada, Northern Hemisphere. I have actual experience, I do not base my thought on something I have only read, written by someone else who has no idea what they are speaking about. Suggest you travel a bit, get some experience, some knowlege, and in general come back when you get a clue |
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