Air Marshalls agreed on UK flights but not Swedish

a minor attack of cranial-rectal-insertion? (think about it, you'll
understand what it means)
"Henry" wrote in message
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"DALing" daling43[delete]-at-hotmail.com wrote:

"Henry" wrote in message

Binyamin Dissen wrote:

Of course, if anything is going on in the plane, the pilot should
remain
locked in the cockpit. There is absolutely no reason for him to get
involved.

The commanding officer of the ship is ultimately responsible for
everything that happens on board and therefore may just wish to have
some little say in the decision-making process.

sorry, but these days the job of the pilot is to fly the aircraft and
NOT
come out of the flight deck.

Sez you.

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 03:18:06 +0200, (Henry) wrote:

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The new agreement means the marshals would report to the captain and only
carry certain types of weapon.

You're having a laugh. You've got the filf, with a gun, for ****'s sake,
and their universal chip-on-the-shoulder attitude (i.e., 'We're going to
do this my way, Sir') and you really think they're going to defer to the
protestations of a mere _pilot_ in the event of an on-board
'situation'??? Un-bloody-likely, mate.

Yeah, but what has *also* been announced is that it is the policy of
at least one airline to not operate flights where there is significant
risk.

So BALPA's baseline policy can still be implemented: carrier notifies
captain that an air marshal has been mandated by the US. Captain
notifies carrier that in his view it is unsafe to operate flight,
pointing to US requirement as evidence!

So Britain can say they are complying with the US policy, and BALPA
can make sure that we don't have armed guards everywhere!

Everyone's happy!

[ Snip ]

Henry

Malc.

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:07:31 -0800, Malcolm Weir wrote:

So Britain can say they are complying with the US policy, and BALPA
can make sure that we don't have armed guards everywhere!

Everyone's happy!

Until BALPA members start losing their jobs as the airlines run into
financial problems. Which they will if they cancel flights and it goes
on for the months Alistair Darling predicts.

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Lansbury

Lansbury wrote:
Until BALPA members start losing their jobs as the airlines run into
financial problems. Which they will if they cancel flights and it goes
on for the months Alistair Darling predicts.

Denmark, Sweeden and Portugal have refused to allow armed guards. If all of
europe got together and stood up to the bush regime, and reciprocated any
refusal of their national airline to enter the USA with refusal of a US
airline to enter their country, the Bush Regime would be forced to accept
defeat in this imperialistic move.

There is very little doubt that Bush's loyal terrier, Mr Bliar will force UK
pilots to comply with Bush regime rules.

"nobody" wrote in message
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Lansbury wrote:
Until BALPA members start losing their jobs as the airlines run into
financial problems. Which they will if they cancel flights and it goes
on for the months Alistair Darling predicts.

Denmark, Sweeden and Portugal have refused to allow armed guards. If all of
europe got together and stood up to the bush regime, and reciprocated any
refusal of their national airline to enter the USA with refusal of a US
airline to enter their country, the Bush Regime would be forced to accept
defeat in this imperialistic move.

There is very little doubt that Bush's loyal terrier, Mr Bliar will force UK
pilots to comply with Bush regime rules.

Is that your considered response or did you just invoke the Pavlovian canines?
Incidentally, where is Sweeden? And how many daily flights are there between
Portugal and the USA?

JohnT

JohnT wrote:

"nobody" wrote in message
...
Lansbury wrote:
Until BALPA members start losing their jobs as the airlines run into
financial problems. Which they will if they cancel flights and it goes
on for the months Alistair Darling predicts.

Denmark, Sweeden and Portugal have refused to allow armed guards. If all
of
europe got together and stood up to the bush regime, and reciprocated
any
refusal of their national airline to enter the USA with refusal of a US
airline to enter their country, the Bush Regime would be forced to
accept
defeat in this imperialistic move.

There is very little doubt that Bush's loyal terrier, Mr Bliar will
force UK
pilots to comply with Bush regime rules.

Is that your considered response or did you just invoke the Pavlovian
canines?
Incidentally, where is Sweeden? And how many daily flights are there
between
Portugal and the USA?


Lol...you Sir, are responding to our "Pavlovian troll", a certain JF Mezei,
who starts slobbering and slathering like a rabid mad dog whenever the
subject of the US, Jews, or Israel comes up on this here newsgroup....

The tip - offs are his use of such phrases as "Bush regime", "Bush's loyal
terrier, Mr. Bliar [sic]", etc. , his confused "Franglish" syntax, and his
consistent mis - spellings of common words, the latest example here being
"Sweeden" and "Bliar"...oh, and if you check his headers he has a ".ca"
address.

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Best
Greg

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:50:11 -0500, nobody wrote:

Denmark, Sweeden and Portugal have refused to allow armed guards

Not one of those countries is very high on the target list, if they have
even got on it. As there doesn't seem to be any reports of any threats
being made to their aircraft they can take such a position as they know
there isn't going to be a need to put Sky Marshalls on their flights.

A change in that situation and commercial reality may well change their
minds.

--
Lansbury