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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:00:57 +0200, "Markku Grönroos"
wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message ... Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of me. A friend of mine traveled to Russia, and flew Aeroflot on one international and several internal flights. He was part of a group of scientists and business types invited by the government there to observe manufacturing and scientific installations for the purpose of gaining help from the West. As such, they were flown "first class" everywhere. He brought back a collection of pictures of beat up aircraft and balding or damaged tires on the landing gear, and those It is everyday life that tires go flat. Yes, but they should be replaced before they reach the minimum requirements. Of course, we don't know whether the person who saw this was actually technically competent to interpret what he saw. Aircraft tyres always look 'bald' compared to what you would expect to see on a car, but they're a different type of tyre, and not designed to perform in the same way as on a car. |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:21:13 +0200, "Markku Grönroos"
wrote: What amazes me is how people are quite happy to take much higher risks in their everyday lives and then put so much effort into unnecessarily worrying about the airline they're going to fly on. That's right. Traffic in Bankok alone kills half a dozens or so people every day. If we compile a zillion different risk analysis reports and statistical tables on people flying Aeroflot, we could draw a pie of risks during their holiday in which one sector describes air crashes. Even if the pie was 10 meters in diameter, one couldn't see the sector by bare eyes. I don't know whether the statistic is true or not, but I've heard that more people are killed by falling coconuts than get killed in aircraft accidents. I've seen a coconut fall from a tree while I've been lying on a beach just a few meters away, and when you see how hard it hits the ground you're certainly glad your head was not underneath it. That's a danger I would never have even thought about before. |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
Of course, we don't know whether the person who saw this was actually
technically competent to interpret what he saw. Aircraft tyres always look 'bald' compared to what you would expect to see on a car, but they're a different type of tyre, and not designed to perform in the same way as on a car. The person in question has a PhD. in Metalurgical engineering, and heads the research dept. of a major aerospace and defense contractor. I think he knows what he is talking about. Besides, even I could interpret the pictures. they looked really bad. |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
Thanx for the information, Lars! Do they ask for any identification
documents while in transit?? You know, It's funny - I've flown around India/China/South-East Asia for years and never worried for a single second, not a single time, but now I will come into contact with Russian bureaucracy for the first time, I do worry. Seen too many movies involving Siberian salt mines (as you mentioned I guess. Anyway... Looking forward to being back in Hong Kong. Kris On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 23:19:06 GMT, Lars wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:40:58 +0100, Kris wrote: I was more worried about corrupt officials at the airport while in transit. I guess passengers in transit are not hassled by dodgy people wearing uniforms and huge official looking hats? No they are not. I came home about ten days ago from a trip that included flying with Aeroflot Stockholm - Moscow - Delhi, back and forth. Neither the flights nor the stopovers in Moscow were terrific but they were not horrible either. Aereoflot is more and more using Airbuses, and they are quite OK. (Even though I prefer Boeings.) Russian officials, including airport staff, are never particularly charming or helpful beyond the minimum nessecary. But the days of innocent people being dragged off to Siberian salt mines for a minor mistake, seems to be over. They still wear uniforms and huge hats though! Lars, Stockholm |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:55:10 GMT, Lars wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:34:33 +0100, Kris wrote: Do they ask for any identification documents while in transit?? Well they do at all airports don´t they? Hmm, guess I never really pay attention to this. Your Japanese/Korean gulag story sounds scary indeed... enter the Twilight Zone Kris |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
Kris wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:55:10 GMT, Lars wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:34:33 +0100, Kris wrote: Do they ask for any identification documents while in transit?? Well they do at all airports don´t they? No. Not if you're in transit. If you need to clear Immigration, of course they do. But most don't require it if you stay in transit. |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message ...
"Tchiowa" wrote in message om... "Jacuo" wrote in message ... U¿ytkownik "Markku Grönroos" napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci ... "John" wrote in message om... SD wrote in message ... Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and will risk flying an airline with a horrendous safety record to save a few bucks. jh You are pathetic. Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US airline ????? Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third You are pansy. And you're a racist. And you're proud of it. Remember saying that? Let's hear more about "Yids" and "Kikes" and "Hebes". And then tell us what difference that makes as to the accuracy of my statment. I have once witnessed a prolonged landing in a flight from Moscow to Helsinki by a Tupolev 154. We had a chance to see nice views over the capital region. When we finally touched the runaway there were lots of ambulances waiting us. We were never told the reason for this. Perhaps the landing gear or some meters didn't work orderly. It happens. And it happens more on second rate airlines. world. Reminds me of Nigeria. Have you ever been to the Lagos International Airport? No, I never have. Of course that's probably because there is no such place as "Lagos International Airport". Now, if you want to ask if I've ever been to Murtala Muhammed Airport (sp), which is the international airport that serves Lagos, then yes, I have. A lot. Maybe 20 times. Your point? Sheremtyevo is dull (and cold as it is a big bird cage), however this suggests nothing on robustness of Aeroflot flights. As well, we could say that don't fly KLMs because the Lagos airport is so horrendous a place. The poster asked about the airport itself. I answered about the airpot itself. You seem to have a problem with that. |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
Chris Blunt wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:00:57 +0200, "Markku Grönroos" wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message ... Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of me. A friend of mine traveled to Russia, and flew Aeroflot on one international and several internal flights. He was part of a group of scientists and business types invited by the government there to observe manufacturing and scientific installations for the purpose of gaining help from the West. As such, they were flown "first class" everywhere. He brought back a collection of pictures of beat up aircraft and balding or damaged tires on the landing gear, and those It is everyday life that tires go flat. Yes, but they should be replaced before they reach the minimum requirements. And that's the point about Aeroflot and other similar airlines. Poor maintenance. If the tires are going bad, what else wasn't inspected and maintained properly. |
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What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???
"Jacuo" wrote in message ...
Uzytkownik "Tchiowa" napisal w wiadomosci om... "Jacuo" wrote in message ... Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US airline ????? Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third world. Reminds me of Nigeria. Yes 2 times. In my country ( Poland ) it is quite popular, because it is good and chiper. Sheremetyevo is not a very nice place, but Moscow is OK. I have never been in Nigeria, but Moscow is similiar to Paris. Say what????? Moscow similar to Paris??? Not the Moscow I've been to. I'm not particularly a fan of Paris, but Moscow isn't even in the same league. |
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