France & Italy Prepaid Eurail pass plus extra charges?

I'm planning to spend a couple weeks this summer in France and Italy and
will get a "10 days within 2 months First Class France & Italy Saver pass"
with a friend.
We plan to use it for trips from Irun to Paris, Paris to Lyon, Lyon to Nice,
Nice to Venice, Venice to Modena, Modena to Florence, Florence to Pisa
daytrip and back, and then Florence to Rome.
I assume that the $449 10 travel days of use pass will be much cheaper than
buying individual first class tickets to all these destinations.


However, would the Eurail pass covering the overnight trips from Irun to
Paris and Nice to Venice include the cost of the first class sleeper beds?
If not, how much additional would it be per person?
What are the costs of reservation fees for each trip segment? Can you make
reservations online when using a Eurail pass?
Does the France and Italy pass cover the trip to Paris even though the train
actually originates in Irun, Spain?

Go to this site.

http://www.seat61.com/

There is info on all aspects of Railpasses - and much more - take your
pick then.

Go to this site.

http://www.seat61.com/

There is info on all aspects of Railpasses - and much more - take your
pick then.

"nobody760" wrote in message
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Go to this site.

http://www.seat61.com/

There is info on all aspects of Railpasses - and much more - take your
pick then.



That site seems to very geared towards trains going to and from London.

I'm trying to find out what the supplement is per person in a 2 berth gran
classe sleeper with shower from Irun, Spain to Paris and similar sleeper
with shower from Nice to Venice in July when using prepaid Eurail tickets.

Depending on the cost of sleepers with showers, we may fly between these
cities instead and then get a hotel for showering that night.

"nobody760" wrote in message
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Go to this site.

http://www.seat61.com/

There is info on all aspects of Railpasses - and much more - take your
pick then.



That site seems to very geared towards trains going to and from London.

I'm trying to find out what the supplement is per person in a 2 berth gran
classe sleeper with shower from Irun, Spain to Paris and similar sleeper
with shower from Nice to Venice in July when using prepaid Eurail tickets.

Depending on the cost of sleepers with showers, we may fly between these
cities instead and then get a hotel for showering that night.

OK. Try this then-

http://horarios.renfe.es/hir/ingles.html

OK. Try this then-

http://horarios.renfe.es/hir/ingles.html

"John Smith" wrote in message
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"nobody760" wrote in message
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I'm trying to find out what the supplement is per person in a 2 berth gran
classe sleeper with shower from Irun, Spain to Paris and similar sleeper
with shower from Nice to Venice in July when using prepaid Eurail tickets.

Depending on the cost of sleepers with showers, we may fly between these
cities instead and then get a hotel for showering that night.

I'm not sure that you would find flights between these places, and almost
certain that you wouldn't find a flight from Irun to Paris. (Not sure what
the nearest airport is - Tarbes??? Bilbao????) Irun is just a small town
that happens to be on the border between France and Spain.

To put it bluntly, I think that you would be best advised to get cheaper
accommodation on the train and risk stinking for a few hours. For instance,
if you scrub yourself in your hotel in Nice on the morning of your
departure, you will be able to climb in the bath of your hotel in Venice by
early afternoon of the next day.

Alan Harrison

"John Smith" wrote in message
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"nobody760" wrote in message
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I'm trying to find out what the supplement is per person in a 2 berth gran
classe sleeper with shower from Irun, Spain to Paris and similar sleeper
with shower from Nice to Venice in July when using prepaid Eurail tickets.

Depending on the cost of sleepers with showers, we may fly between these
cities instead and then get a hotel for showering that night.

I'm not sure that you would find flights between these places, and almost
certain that you wouldn't find a flight from Irun to Paris. (Not sure what
the nearest airport is - Tarbes??? Bilbao????) Irun is just a small town
that happens to be on the border between France and Spain.

To put it bluntly, I think that you would be best advised to get cheaper
accommodation on the train and risk stinking for a few hours. For instance,
if you scrub yourself in your hotel in Nice on the morning of your
departure, you will be able to climb in the bath of your hotel in Venice by
early afternoon of the next day.

Alan Harrison

Don't bother with an Italian rail pass, trains are cheap in Italy.
Florence to Rome is around 20 euros.