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nobody writes:
You *can* die from heat. You WILL die from cold. You can and will die from extremes in either direction. In heat, you can survive without air conditioning. No, you cannot, beyond a certain point. You must have a way of removing body heat, and that requires active cooling. The body's own evaporative cooling is only reliable up to a certain (modest) threshold of heat; thereafter, external cooling is mandatory, or hyperthermia and death will ensue. Drink lots, have a fan, dress properly. No problem. See above. In high temperature and humidity, a fan and drinks will not suffice, as they will not be able to remove body heat quickly enough through perspiration to prevent hyperthermia. Using a fan also raises temperature and humidity. If you turn off your air conditioning and follow the above, you will have gotten used to it within days. Modern cities in hot climates cannot function without air conditioning. The human body is built to have its own cooling (it is called sweat). The human body survives by sweating only within narrow limits. And you can survive even when outside temperature exceeds body temperature. Only within narrow limits and under certain conditions. In cold, if you do not have proper clothing, you will die and/or lose limbs to frostbite. Yes. However, with the right clothing, you can tolerate any cold air temperature that you are ever likely to encounter on the Earth's surface. And you still need to drink and eat properly. And remember that at night, you need extra warm sleeping bag because your metabolism slows down and you generate less heat. You just need warm clothing, be it a sleeping bag or something else. It is easier to learn to survive in heat than in cold. No, it's just the opposite. You can survive cold with protective clothing alone. In heat, you must have active cooling. At 40°C, you are only 20 degrees from optimal temperature. But at -20°, you are 40 degrees from optimal comfort temperature. But at 40° C, heat must be actively removed from your body, whereas at -20° C, you need do nothing more than conserve a portion of the heat your body produces. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Using a fan also raises temperature and humidity. I use a fan to remove heat from the room. I also use fans to remove heat from my car. |
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
Where have you been visiting lately? Apparently not Europe, or you'd be visiting rte more! Spent a month in Europe around May but was kind of on autopilot. Two weeks in Holland, then went down to Sevilla for Feria season. Couldn't get a flight to Sevilla (everything full), so I looked on the map and the closest place with cheap flights turned out to be Faro, Portugal, on Transavia. It only looked to be a couple hours away from Sevilla on the map, so I figured there'd probably be hourly trains or something. Boy was that guess wrong. I got there and there wasn't even daily scheduled bus service - I arrived on Saturday and the next bus was Monday. No train at all (except via Lisbon!). Finally on Sunday someone tipped me off to a secret bus, the existence of which had been denied by everyone else, that made the trip in only about 4 hours. Feria was quite a sight though. At the same time, the cultural monotony of Sevilla is unsettling. A giant city, with something like 6 restaurants (not including fast food) that aren't Spanish/French/Italian. Every one of those 6 was full of foreigners and (by their accents) madrilenos, not a sevillano in sight. It's very beautiful, but I can't deal with Spain for long. Me, I got married and moved to Italy, and am loving every baking moment of summer! Congratulations. Does this mean you'll be settling down in one place? miguel -- Photos from 40 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu Latest photos: Malaysia; Thailand; Singapore; Spain; Morocco Airports of the world: http://airport.u.nu |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message news nobody writes: See above. In high temperature and humidity, a fan and drinks will not suffice, as they will not be able to remove body heat quickly enough through perspiration to prevent hyperthermia. And yet people survive in Asia and Africa without AC, refrigeration or fans Using a fan also raises temperature and humidity. Really How precisely does a fan manufacture water ? Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:14:59 +0800, Miguel Cruz
wrote: Dave Frightens Me wrote: Me, I got married and moved to Italy, and am loving every baking moment of summer! Congratulations. Does this mean you'll be settling down in one place? Well, I've been here almost two years now. My wife has itchy feet (she has travelled less than I, and wants to catch up!), and wants to go to Iran, Argentina or Senegal. I am missing SE Asia, but also want to go back to the Middle East, which is a bit more accessible from here. Basically, we're both hopeless at making decisions. Until a decision is made, we're kicking back on the beach, waiting for a change in the weather. Planning a scooter tour around Corsica in September which should be awesome. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Keith W writes:
And yet people survive in Asia and Africa without AC, refrigeration or fans Actually, A/C is extremely common in Asia. Singapore is famous for its extensive use of A/C, in particular. Hot climates without A/C are very primitive, and are likely to remain so for as long as they don't have A/C. Really How precisely does a fan manufacture water ? It doesn't. But it speeds evaporation of sweat by increasing air movement. The sweat thus evaporated increases the amount of water vapor in the air, thereby increasing relative humidity. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Following up to Tchiowa
Which are you labelling a fairy tale? Weren't you aware that global warming has been going on for over 10,000 years? do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise? -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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The Reid writes:
do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise? The world's scientists are not a single organism, and there is no subject on which they _all_ agree. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Following up to Mxsmanic
do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise? The world's scientists are not a single organism, and there is no subject on which they _all_ agree. kindly precis the consensus. -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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The Reid wrote:
Following up to Tchiowa Which are you labelling a fairy tale? Weren't you aware that global warming has been going on for over 10,000 years? do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise? The ice age was a long time ago, so warming has been going on for quite a while. |
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