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  #171  
Old July 24th, 2006, 11:10 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:56:28 +0200, Mxsmanic
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Keith W writes:

So you sit and sweat in an room with no ventilation !


Without air conditioning, you sit and sweat in a room with or without
ventilation.


Rubbish. Ventilation is almost as effective as air con.

Psst windows can be opened, take a class.


Opening windows and getting air to move through them are two different
things.


Wind exists, and not just from the anus.
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  #172  
Old July 24th, 2006, 11:24 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:49:50 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Dave Frightens Me writes:

Your logic is broken. No-one said anything about heating.


You say that education can compensate for excessive heat. Logically,
then, education can also compensate for excessive cold. Thus, there's
no more need for heating systems than there is for air conditioning
systems.


As cold does not mean hot, your logic is broken.

Believe it or not, they are two very different things.


No they aren't - ask a physics teacher.

  #173  
Old July 24th, 2006, 11:40 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Keith W writes:

No I open the windows and turn on a fan


And receive a blast of humid air at 37° C?

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  #174  
Old July 24th, 2006, 11:40 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

Rubbish. Ventilation is almost as effective as air con.


No, it isn't nearly as effective, which is why A/C exists in the first
place.

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Old July 24th, 2006, 11:41 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Dave Frightens Me writes:

There is no situation where leaving the room may not be an option when
faced with death.


If death awaits outside, what's the point?

Try not opening it and see if it makes no difference.


I have. No real difference. It's too hot and humid outside.

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  #176  
Old July 25th, 2006, 01:09 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Typically fans are positioned such that they just move air around in a
closed room. There may be little or no connection to the outside
world, and certainly not enough to effectively exhaust humid air.


Maybe that is how it is in your part of the world, but common sense
dictates that you have a method to extract the air from the house.
  #177  
Old July 25th, 2006, 01:12 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Opening windows and getting air to move through them are two different
things.


If you put a fan in the window, you can then have air move in or out,
depending on a combination of blade direction and shape. If you notice,
a fan doesn't create the air. Air comes in one side and goes out the
other. It would be a bit difficult to move air if the fan was only open
on one side.
  #178  
Old July 25th, 2006, 01:14 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Al Czervik wrote:

Dave Frightens Me wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:49:50 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:


Dave Frightens Me writes:


Your logic is broken. No-one said anything about heating.

You say that education can compensate for excessive heat. Logically,
then, education can also compensate for excessive cold. Thus, there's
no more need for heating systems than there is for air conditioning
systems.


As cold does not mean hot, your logic is broken.

Believe it or not, they are two very different things.



No they aren't - ask a physics teacher.


Cold, in simple terms, is the absence of heat.
  #179  
Old July 25th, 2006, 01:16 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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The Reid wrote:
Following up to Tchiowa

Which are you labelling a fairy tale? Weren't you aware that global
warming has been going on for over 10,000 years?


do you ever wonder why the worlds scientists think otherwise?


What are you talking about???????? The fact that the earth goes through
regular cyclical warming and cooling is accepted scientific fact. *ALL*
scientists know and accept that. What is going on now is a debate as to
whether or not man is making it worse. Many scientists think they are.
But none, I repeat *NONE*, argue that global warming has not been going
on for over 10,000 years.

Ever heard of "The Ice Age"?

  #180  
Old July 25th, 2006, 01:20 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.travel.europe,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush
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Al Czervik wrote:
Dave Frightens Me wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:49:50 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Dave Frightens Me writes:

Your logic is broken. No-one said anything about heating.

You say that education can compensate for excessive heat. Logically,
then, education can also compensate for excessive cold. Thus, there's
no more need for heating systems than there is for air conditioning
systems.


As cold does not mean hot, your logic is broken.

Believe it or not, they are two very different things.


No they aren't - ask a physics teacher.


Very true. Everything is hot. Cold is simply a comparative term about
how hot something is compared to something else. Absolute zero has
never been achieved. Never will be.

 




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