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Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Keith W writes: The question is addressed to you not them. You are the one making the claim after all. I don't know what their contigency plans are, but eventually they'll need more energy than they are able to buy on the free market. That was the point I made, you claimed their contingency plans involved taking energy from someone else. Please clarify who you think they can invade to grab this energy. Keith ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Tchiowa writes: That's what the phone company tried to argue. It was broken up and service improved. The monopoly on the local loop has never been broken. And the phone company is now unbreaking itself, becoming exactly what it was before. Etc, Etc, Examples? Goal? They may talk about goal but the reality is completely different. Tell me the government entity that you think provides good service. It's easier to list government entities that do not provide good service, but even then, nothing springs to mind offhand, except perhaps ephemeral structures that exist for reasons other than the ones nominally given for them, such as the DHS. And didn't I say that monopolies are not normally good? Perhaps, but some things have to be monopolies. You cannot have ten sets of wires providing electricity to your home, or three sets of pipes providing water. That's why monopolies are generally bad. Including government monopolies. But some monopolies cannot be avoided, and they should not be private. There is a myth that government can't perform as well as private industry. It's a myth. Private industry is no more nor less competent than government entities. It depends on who's watching. In private industry nobody's watching. So nobody knows how efficient or inefficient they are. Nor is it publicized) |
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On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:35:52 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Dave Frightens Me writes: It's a relative thing, not absolute. Professionals can demand more money, because they are professionals. How much more money can they demand? You have to put figures to this argument at some point, or it serves no purpose. Why? More is more than less, and is preferred. That's all that matters. Why must there be a dividing line? Because if there isn't, there is no distinction between professionals and non-professionals, which invalidates your position. You indicated that there _was_ a dividing line, but you've thus far refused to quantify it. Show me where I indicated that. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Following up to Mxsmanic
Professionals can demand more than non-professionals. So there must be a dividing line between what non-professionals can demand and what professionals can demand. What is that dividing line? a demarcation line. -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Following up to Dave Frightens Me
With an excellent public health system and welfare. Aren't these the earmarks of a socialist nation? No. What is then? ownership of the means of production by the people, a public health system is a earmark of a country with some feeling for social justice, I suppose you could call it social democracy, although our Tories support it. But they are currently posturing to the left of new labour. -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Following up to Tchiowa
Why not? because it doesn't work. Because it's Socialism. why do you keep repeating stuff nobody is disagreeing with? Again (and again and again) your type of Luddism has been proclaiming the pending end of the world if we don't retract our economies for centuries. And you've always been wrong. you're in a small minority of closed minds who can only make irrelevant comments about socialism while ignoring scientific opinion. There is no problem that work can make "worse". so you "think" But it was the Socialist economy that crumbled and cause the failure of the government, not the other way around. We all know that. They saw the "western" model was better and the rest followed. I'm not sure they are fully on top of democracy yet. Uh, no. Their economy collapsed. They didn't "see" and "follow". Their Socialist system collapsed. I didnt totally collapse, it was in a very poor way, without a better example to move to, it may have taken a lot longer, but this is history, look to the future. For some reason you have a penchant for misunderstanding things and then explaining the obvious. For some reason you have a penchant for avoiding historical fact. Like what? You mostly repeat irrelevancies that nobody is arguing about. And I didn't say that US health care was cheap. Obviously it's not. But the system is sustainable while the NHS is already collapsing. By their own admission. (And by several UK court rulings.) A UK political party hardly represents the "future". Eh? Nobody said it did, did they?. Europe is the past. empty assertion You are. You're talking about Socialized Medicine which only comes from a Socialist government. By definition. nonsense, I don't have a socialist government, we have tax funded medicine. I live in a free market capitalist system. Which you clearly want to socialize. total and complete nonsense. If you "clearly" see that it must be based on some preconceived ideas of what all opponents of your way of thinking must think. Very silly indeed. I am talking about things like the desirability within that system of free at point of delivery medicine (something civilised countries see as a compassionate "must have") And which has been explained to you simply doesn't exist. It's not "free". You're talking about "free to you". "I want, I want, I want, you pay". You are telling me our health system isn't "free" immediately after I said it was "free at point of delivery". We *all* pay for the health system, we don't need you to tell us its not free, we know its not free. did you not notice our exchange of comments about the relative costs? I have to wonder about you at this point. and curbing some types of consumption to constrain global warming, No, you talking about curbing virtually all consumption Oh, yeah, sure. The difference between me and you is that I take a realistic view of the world and I want to make sure that the world my children and grandchildren inherit is better than the one I live in. I'm not willing, for example, to sacrifice their access to quality medical care in order to get it "free" for me right now. nobody said it was "free", except you. It isn't free. The future of our children is exactly why people are trying to reduce polluting consumption to sustainable levels, you don't understand that. That's what compassionate, civilized people in compassionate, civilized countries care about. very true, (except for the comment on medical care). As you are still at stage one of thinking I think our health care is free (in spite of having compared costs) and thinking that I want to socialise our economy based on god knows what, I have to conclude there is no point in talking to you. Bye. plonk for a while -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Dave Frightens Me writes:
Why? More is more than less, and is preferred. That's all that matters. OK. I make more than a euro at what I do, therefore I'm a professional. After all, a euro is more than half a euro. Show me where I indicated that. As soon as you assert that there are two categories, professional and non-professional, you imply some sort of identifiable distinction between them. If you can't describe the distinction, then your division into categories has no meaning. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Tchiowa wrote:
Gorazd Bozic wrote: Or did you mean to say that Communism = Socialism? Pretty much, yes. Communism is one form of Socialism. Read Marx. 8- Oh, I have. I do admit though it was some time ago. Communism is not much more than militarily enforced Socialism. That's definitely not what we were taught back then. I'd fail a marxism class with a statement like that, that I'm certain. Gorazd |
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Draconian vacation policies for US slave workers
???? Who are you trying to kid. The majority of people never go on unemployment. 4% unemployment is considered "full employment" because there is a hard core of around 4% of the people who stay unemployed pretty much their whole lives. (Can you say "drunk and lazy"?) Please stop misinforming people by citing your opinions as fact. The official U.S. unemployment rate only takes into consideration those individuals have actively searched for employment in the preceding four weeks. Unless the "drunk and lazy" are out there looking for jobs, they don't qualify as umemployed. Neither do full-time moms, college students, nor those of us lazy folks who work out of our home. http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_faq.htm#Ques5 Who is counted as unemployed? Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work. Who is not in the labor force? All members of the civilian noninstitutional population are eligible for inclusion in the labor force, and those 16 and over who have a job or are actively looking for one are so classified. All others--those who have no job and are not looking for one--are counted as "not in the labor force." Many who do not participate in the labor force are going to school or are retired. Family responsibilities keep others out of the labor force. Still others have a physical or mental disability which prevents them from participating in labor force activities. |
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Following up to Mxsmanic
As soon as you assert that there are two categories, professional and non-professional its in the dictionary. -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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