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IATA bids farewell to paper tickets
In article om,
wrote: The context was your ridiculous claim that (quote) ``an e-ticket is not a written contract,'' followed by a long blovation that any opinion of yours about e-tickets must be correct because you are a Licensed Attorney (TM)... even though it was blindingly clear that you knew bugger-all about e-tickets and how they work. E-tickets were written contracts back in 2000, and they still are. You haven't a clue, have you? Spend some time on google and then see what you have to say, both about "Brooklyn Academy of Law," where I practice law, what position I hold and whether I am a "once-a-year traveler to Las Vegas. According to Google, you have a degree from a fourth-rate law school (Brooklyn^H^H^H^HLoyola Academy of Law or something - doesn't seem to appear among the top fifty US law schools, per US News rankings) and hold a position as ``counsel'' (isn't that a shorthand for failed lawyers who didn't make partner?) at a third-rate firm. Apparently, law is not the first career at which you failed, which would explain why you imagine that a law degree is a license to spout nonsense about e-tickets. E-tickets are not written contracts if there is no writing, and there is no writing when they are booked by phone. You do know the definition of "writing," don't you? I do know that no so long ago you claimed that (quote) ``an e-ticket is an oral promise.'' Apparently, all these annual joints to Vegas still haven't taught you that e-tickets come in forms other than oral promises by airline representatives. Tsk, tsk. By the way, where is your law degree from? Where are you authorized to practice law? I don't need a law degree to steer you - ever gently and kindly - towards realizing that your claims about e-tickets (``an e-ticket is an oral promise'' and ``an e-ticket is not a written contract'') are pure nonsense. But if you don't believe me, why don't you stomp your little feet at IATA and tell *them* what you think about legality of e-tickets. |
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On Sep 8, 10:55 pm, (VS) wrote:
In article om, wrote: The context was your ridiculous claim that (quote) ``an e-ticket is not a written contract,'' followed by a long blovation that any opinion of yours about e-tickets must be correct because you are a Licensed Attorney (TM)... even though it was blindingly clear that you knew bugger-all about e-tickets and how they work. E-tickets were written contracts back in 2000, and they still are. You haven't a clue, have you? Spend some time on google and then see what you have to say, both about "Brooklyn Academy of Law," where I practice law, what position I hold and whether I am a "once-a-year traveler to Las Vegas. According to Google, you have a degree from a fourth-rate law school (Brooklyn^H^H^H^HLoyola Academy of Law or something - doesn't seem to appear among the top fifty US law schools, per US News rankings) Loyola Law is fourth rate? Try again, sonny. and hold a position as ``counsel'' (isn't that a shorthand for failed lawyers who didn't make partner?) at a third-rate firm. My firm is third-rate? "Counsel" is short-hand for "didn't make partner?" Try again, sonny. Apparently, law is not the first career at which you failed, which would explain why you imagine that a law degree is a license to spout nonsense about e-tickets. Yeah, right. I used to wonder why you drew constant attacks from so many people on the net. Guess I know, don't I? E-tickets are not written contracts if there is no writing, and there is no writing when they are booked by phone. You do know the definition of "writing," don't you? I do know that no so long ago you claimed that (quote) ``an e-ticket is an oral promise.'' Apparently, all these annual joints to Vegas still haven't taught you that e-tickets come in forms other than oral promises by airline representatives. Tsk, tsk. I think you mean, "jaunt," not "joint." And I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't take "annual jaunts" to Las Vegas, and when I do go I don't fly. By the way, where is your law degree from? Where are you authorized to practice law? I don't need a law degree to steer you - Sure, you're clearly a well-qualified legal expert. ever gently and kindly - towards realizing that your claims about e-tickets (``an e-ticket is an oral promise'' and ``an e-ticket is not a written contract'') are pure nonsense. But if you don't believe me, why don't you stomp your little feet at IATA and tell *them* what you think about legality of e-tickets. As I said (though I understand you have trouble with content as well as context), in 2000, when I made those comments, etickets were mad eon the phone and no written confirmations were provided. However, don't let the facts get in your way. |
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On Sep 10, 1:03 am, mrtravel wrote:
wrote: As I said (though I understand you have trouble with content as well as context), in 2000, when I made those comments, etickets were mad eon the phone and no written confirmations were provided. However, don't let the facts get in your way. I have a question. How does emailing an e-ticket receipt change whether this is a written contract or not? Isn't a written contract signed by both parties? There weren't email confirmations in 2000. However: 1. Why do you think phone reps always (and still) read you the terms and restrictions when you book a ticket? 2. Supposing the contemporary system malfunctions and no email receipt is ever transmitted by the airline -- where is the writing, signed by the party to be charged? 3. Supposing the email receipt is received, but it reflects the wrong date, or the wrong price or different terms and conditions (e.g. non- refundable when you asked for refundable)? How will you prove up the terms of your "written" agreement? |
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IATA bids farewell to paper tickets
In article .com,
wrote: I used to wonder why you drew constant attacks from so many people on the net. Guess I know, don't I? You don't know anything, and never did - just consider your ``legal opinion'' that e-ticket is an oral promise, and that an e-ticket is not a written contract. Why dontcha take this legal opinion to IATA? They'll be delighted to learn that (quote) ``an e-ticket is not a written contract.'' Tell them about California statute of frauds, while you are at it. Sure, you're clearly a well-qualified legal expert. I am not a legal expert, I just know more about e-tickets than a failed lawyer who thinks that ``an e-ticket is an oral promise.'' As I said (though I understand you have trouble with content as well as context), in 2000, when I made those comments, etickets were mad eon the phone and no written confirmations were provided. In 2000, e-tickets were bought online and booked by travel agents. Even when they were booked by phone, airlines always provided e-mail, fax and postal-mail confirmations. There was *never* a time when e-tickets were not accompanied by written confirmations. I've got a stack of written e-ticket receipts and confirmations going back to at least 1997, if not earlier. All you've got is a diploma from a fourth-rate law school noone has heard about, and the delusion that it gives the force of law to any nonsense opinion you happen to hold. You like a lance corporal who, when he barges into a pub, demands to be addressed as ``Mr. Staff Sergeant-Major, Sir!'' Do take your legal opinions to IATA. Tell them that an e-ticket is not a written contract, then let us know where they tell ya to stick it |
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