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Old May 2nd, 2004, 12:02 PM
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On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough
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Apparently BroJack wrote

If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?


America is one of the few countries that executes children.
Do you promise not to execute his kids?

[whatever relevance that is...]


None whatsoever, especially since when one gets executed here, it is
because they are a very bad criminal, while one getting raped in SA is
getting raped by a criminal. Except when mistakes are made, which is
one of the major reasons I am against the death penalty.
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Old May 2nd, 2004, 04:11 PM
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On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote:

Apparently BroJack wrote

If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?


America is one of the few countries that executes children.


Ever hear of Muslims strapping TNT to their daughters?

BroJack
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Old May 2nd, 2004, 05:38 PM
Ken Tough
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Bro Jack wrote:

On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote:

Apparently BroJack wrote

If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?


America is one of the few countries that executes children.


Ever hear of Muslims strapping TNT to their daughters?


No. They do it of their own accord, as do the Tamil Tigers.
Desperation is a terrible thing.

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Old May 2nd, 2004, 06:14 PM
BroJack
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On Sun, 2 May 2004 18:38:53 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote:

Bro Jack wrote:

On Sun, 2 May 2004 12:29:59 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote:

Apparently BroJack wrote

If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?

America is one of the few countries that executes children.


Ever hear of Muslims strapping TNT to their daughters?


No. They do it of their own accord, as do the Tamil Tigers.
Desperation is a terrible thing.


They do it of their own accord? That makes it right? That makes it
better than executing murderous punks?

You Euro-twits have really got your heads up your asses.

BroJack
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Old May 2nd, 2004, 06:16 PM
BroJack
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Default Precautions while travelling in South-Africa

On Sun, 2 May 2004 18:38:02 +0200, Ken Tough
wrote:

Apparently wrote:

Ken Tough wrote:
Apparently BroJack wrote

If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?

America is one of the few countries that executes children.
Do you promise not to execute his kids?

[whatever relevance that is...]


None whatsoever, especially since when one gets executed here, it is
because they are a very bad criminal, while one getting raped in SA is
getting raped by a criminal. Except when mistakes are made, which is
one of the major reasons I am against the death penalty.


Of course it's of no relevance, it was tongue-in-cheek, primarily
because the comment about a tourist's infant child being raped is
also stupidly irrelevant.


Tell it to the infant's parents.

Yes, there is a problem with rape in this country, especially as
a cultural thing. But the risk to tourists is small. The violence
against farmers is also a red-herring, unless the intention is to
penalize the country as a means of revenge. It isn't a government
promulgated policy (as it is in Zimbabwe), but something which sadly
falls lower on the priority list than some of the other problems.
The best means to cure the problem is to make the best of what the
country is, not what you want it not to be.


Maybe you missed this:

Correct these facts, chump:

EXCERPT: in 1999 South Africa had 121 murders and 119 rapes per
100,000 inhabitants, compared with Colombia’s 69 and 6 respectively
(and the United States’ 5 and 32)

EXCERPT: South Africa has seen the rise of vigilante groups filling
the void left by an incompetent (affirmative action, again – one third
of policemen are functionally illiterate) and violent police – who
between 1997 and 2000 killed 1,550 people, compared with 2,700 killed
by the apartheid regime in 30 years.

EXCERPT: South Africa has the world’s largest number of persons living
with HIV/AIDS: 5 million of its 44 million citizens are HIV-positive.
Only 42 million are infected worldwide [snip] But Mbeki has repeatedly
stated that he did not believe the "thesis" that AIDS is caused by
HIV, or that it is a virus at all.
_____________________

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5979

South Africa: The Downside of Liberation
By Michael Radu

  #16  
Old May 3rd, 2004, 01:59 PM
Ken Tough
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Default Precautions while travelling in South-Africa

(BroJack) wrote

Of course it's of no relevance, it was tongue-in-cheek, primarily
because the comment about a tourist's infant child being raped is
also stupidly irrelevant.


Tell it to the infant's parents.


What tourist infant's parents?

Rubbish.

Yes, there is a problem with rape in this country, especially as
a cultural thing. But the risk to tourists is small. The violence
against farmers is also a red-herring, unless the intention is to
penalize the country as a means of revenge. It isn't a government
promulgated policy (as it is in Zimbabwe), but something which sadly
falls lower on the priority list than some of the other problems.
The best means to cure the problem is to make the best of what the
country is, not what you want it not to be.


Correct these facts, chump:

EXCERPT: in 1999 South Africa had 121 murders and 119 rapes per
100,000 inhabitants, compared with Colombia?s 69 and 6 respectively
(and the United States? 5 and 32)


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap
Lists 69 for colombia and 51 for south africa. (murder)
123 for South Africa [vs 74 for Canada] (rape)

Maybe you missed the part where I wrote "there is a problem with rape..."
but fact it is not relevant to tourists.

Anyway, correct your own facts. If you argue that the murder rate
is wrong because the figures are newer, then give up.


EXCERPT: South Africa has seen the rise of vigilante groups filling
the void left by an incompetent (affirmative action, again – one third
of policemen are functionally illiterate) and violent police – who
between 1997 and 2000 killed 1,550 people, compared with 2,700 killed
by the apartheid regime in 30 years.


It's clear where you're coming from, and I am well aware there is no
use arguing with your type so I'll go bash my head against the wall.
I notice you neglect to include the 10's of thousands killed in
strategically organized violence by the apartheid regime. Stats
are a funny thing, eh?

EXCERPT: South Africa has the world's largest number of persons living
with HIV/AIDS: 5 million of its 44 million citizens are HIV-positive.
Only 42 million are infected worldwide [snip] But Mbeki has repeatedly
stated that he did not believe the "thesis" that AIDS is caused by
HIV, or that it is a virus at all.


South Africa has free anti-retrovirals for all those people with HIV.

Care to suggest when that might be the case in the USA?

Ha!

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Ken Tough
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Old May 3rd, 2004, 02:33 PM
BroJack
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Default Precautions while travelling in South-Africa

On 3 May 2004 05:59:58 -0700, (Ken Tough) wrote:

(BroJack) wrote

Of course it's of no relevance, it was tongue-in-cheek, primarily
because the comment about a tourist's infant child being raped is
also stupidly irrelevant.


Tell it to the infant's parents.


What tourist infant's parents?

Rubbish.


If they rape their own, they'll rape the tourists'.

Yes, there is a problem with rape in this country, especially as
a cultural thing. But the risk to tourists is small. The violence
against farmers is also a red-herring, unless the intention is to
penalize the country as a means of revenge. It isn't a government
promulgated policy (as it is in Zimbabwe), but something which sadly
falls lower on the priority list than some of the other problems.
The best means to cure the problem is to make the best of what the
country is, not what you want it not to be.


Correct these facts, chump:

EXCERPT: in 1999 South Africa had 121 murders and 119 rapes per
100,000 inhabitants, compared with Colombia?s 69 and 6 respectively
(and the United States? 5 and 32)


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap
Lists 69 for colombia and 51 for south africa. (murder)
123 for South Africa [vs 74 for Canada] (rape)

Maybe you missed the part where I wrote "there is a problem with rape..."
but fact it is not relevant to tourists.


That's because the tourists leave their infants home.

Anyway, correct your own facts. If you argue that the murder rate
is wrong because the figures are newer, then give up.


My facts ARE facts.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5979



EXCERPT: South Africa has seen the rise of vigilante groups filling
the void left by an incompetent (affirmative action, again – one third
of policemen are functionally illiterate) and violent police – who
between 1997 and 2000 killed 1,550 people, compared with 2,700 killed
by the apartheid regime in 30 years.


It's clear where you're coming from, and I am well aware there is no
use arguing with your type so I'll go bash my head against the wall.
I notice you neglect to include the 10's of thousands killed in
strategically organized violence by the apartheid regime. Stats
are a funny thing, eh?


Apartheid has been reported and publicized ad nauseum. What's not
reported is the current state of affairs, or the FACT that during
apartheid, blacks from neighborhing countries fled from black warlords
into South Africa.

EXCERPT: South Africa has the world's largest number of persons living
with HIV/AIDS: 5 million of its 44 million citizens are HIV-positive.
Only 42 million are infected worldwide [snip] But Mbeki has repeatedly
stated that he did not believe the "thesis" that AIDS is caused by
HIV, or that it is a virus at all.


South Africa has free anti-retrovirals for all those people with HIV.

Care to suggest when that might be the case in the USA?

Ha!


We don't believe that raping babies or the juice of the berries from
the boogaloo bush controls HIV.

BroJack
 




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