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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
Hello there!
Maybe this is much too early yet, but I feel like beginning to plan for a Tansania Safari to take place in August of 2007. We will be a couple just about getting near the 50-year-frontier, plus our son (19 years old then). We have some Safari experience based on 3 individually organized tours we did in Kenya, where the latest of them has been totally planned and carried out by ourselves. But this was quite some time ago, so that I am sort of uncertain now whether for Tansania, we should just "book" a Safari or try to arrange one completely on our own. I know quite well from our tours in Kenya, that being on Safari - especially when you're on your own - can be kind of demanding and exhausting. And as we're no longer those young guys we used to be in those days, I wonder ... Your opinions here are welcome. The Safari should be at least 14 days. Would you prefer to start in Arusha, or in Dar Es Salaam? We have not too much points on our itinerary yet. Of course we want to visit the Serengeti, for maybe a week. And I want to stay for at least one night at the Lobo Lodge near the Kenyan border. What else would you suggest? After the end of our Safari we'd like to add a week to be spent at the coast near Tiwi in Kenya - for relaxing and to "process" all those fresh emotions and impressions from Tansania. What would be the best way to change countries here? A flight from Arusha or Dar Es Salaam to Mombasa? I guess there is no overland bus from Tansania to Kenya that could be recommended, is there? Cheers and asante sana! |
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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
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Altmann writes Hello there! Maybe this is much too early yet, but I feel like beginning to plan for a Tansania Safari to take place in August of 2007. Never too early! We will be a couple just about getting near the 50-year-frontier, plus our son (19 years old then). We have some Safari experience based on 3 individually organized tours we did in Kenya, where the latest of them has been totally planned and carried out by ourselves. But this was quite some time ago, so that I am sort of uncertain now whether for Tansania, we should just "book" a Safari or try to arrange one completely on our own. I know quite well from our tours in Kenya, that being on Safari - especially when you're on your own - can be kind of demanding and exhausting. And as we're no longer those young guys we used to be in those days, I wonder ... We organized our tour with operators in Tanzania. They suggested some itineraries and we went thorough about four modifications until we got what suited us. It was a nice compromise and we certainly felt it was our trip. We camped at some public campsites, to keep the cost down so we could have a longer holiday, but we also stayed in lodges. Speak to a few operators to build up an idea of what's on offer. We would still prefer self-drive as a first choice but it is not as easy in Tanzania as in Southern Africa. We have a report and pictures at http://www.wildworldweb.co.uk/holidays/tanzania.htm This may give you some idea if we can offer you further help. I don't know when you booked you organised your last trip but with email communication it has never been easier. Fifty and full of energy - at least when it comes to travelling in Africa, -- John Macdonald |
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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
Paul Altmann wrote:
Maybe this is much too early yet, but I feel like beginning to plan for a Tansania Safari to take place in August of 2007. .... I am sort of uncertain now whether for Tansania, we should just "book" a Safari or try to arrange one completely on our own. You can book a custom safari out of Arusha, that's pretty easy to do and for a group of three it makes sense so you can build a custom itinerary. My wife and I went with a group of 15 photographers last January and learned the ropes, then did a similar trip on our own in April and are going back next year with two friends in two jeeps. Once you get in touch with one of the half dozen or so best safari outfitters in Arusha it's pretty straight-forward to set this up. Would you prefer to start in Arusha, or in Dar Es Salaam? The safari companies are based mostly in Arusha ... typical trip is to fly into Kilimanjaro airport on the KLM flight from Amsterdam, get met by your guide, overnight either in Arusha or near Mt. Meru (on the way to town) or similar, start the safari the next AM. A couple of popular parks are only a couple of hours from Arusha (Manyara, Tarangire). Of course we want to visit the Serengeti, for maybe a week. This is one of the worst times to visit the Serengeti since the bulk of the migration is in Kenya, there has been little rain since May, and sometimes they burn the grass ... or so I hear ... I wouldn't spend a week there in August unless you move to more than one place (we spent seven nights there in April near Seronera and five nights on the south-east border in January) And I want to stay for at least one night at the Lobo Lodge near the Kenyan border. The agents we've booked with in Tanzania have tried to discourage us from staying at the "Wildlife" lodges, like Lobo, saying the service is poor, the buildings are run down and the food is sometimes bad ... these are the lodges originally built and managed by the Tz government in the socialist days and were supposedly sold to a company without the capital to bring them up to par ... or so one hears. What else would you suggest? The other logical places to visit up there are Ngorongoro Crater, Lake Manyara National Park and Tarangire National Park. Crater has water year round, 80-100 lions, 400-500 hyenas (most dense predator population in Tz), ~30,000 head of non-migratory antelope for the predators to chase so you'll see a lot there, though there are access and over-crowding issues. Manyara has year-round water and is famous for birds, elephants and tree-climbing lions but it's a very small park so some people are disappointed in it ... we like to photograph birds so always try to stay there 2-3 days though. Our guides told us that in August - Oct Tarangire is typically better than Serengeti because it has a permanent river, so attracts lots of game (especially elephants) ... dunno if this is so (we were there in January 3 nights and it was the least interesting park we visited in January) but that's what the guides claimed. If we were to go in Oct we'd spend several days here for sure. What would be the best way to change countries here? A flight from Arusha or Dar Es Salaam to Mombasa? I guess there is no overland bus from Tansania to Kenya that could be recommended, is there? It's not too far from Arusha to Nairobi, a quick flight ... I seem to remember seeing a bus or shuttle service listed on the board from one of the hotels we used in Arusha. Bill |
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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
John, Bill, thanks for you input.
Bill wrote: Once you get in touch with one of the half dozen or so best safari outfitters in Arusha it's pretty straight-forward to set this up. Could you name some of them? This is one of the worst times to visit the Serengeti since the bulk of the migration is in Kenya OK - we've been to Kenya during migration, and found it quite morbid at times: all those carcasses in the river Mara ... When is the migration normally due to begin in the Serengeti? Mid-July? End of it? John Macdonald schrieb: We camped at some public campsites, to keep the cost down so we could have a longer holiday, but we also stayed in lodges. Do tour operators or others rent camping equipment normally? We have a report and pictures at http://www.wildworldweb.co.uk/holidays/tanzania.htm Will check that as soon as I can take the time out. Thanks |
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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
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I agree with what has been said above about the migration, carcasses and time of year. I think you should ask yourself what you want to see or do. If its the migration then change you trip to fit in better with it and get the best possible from it. On the otherhand, if you're just looking for a 2 week safari and you want to share the experience with your family then there are plenty of places all over africa to choose from. You could also spilt you tour up and have a week on safari and then another week at a beach (zanzibar/mozambique) or perhaps something in Cape Town (wine farms, table mountain, garden route), or Victoria Falls. Hope this helps John www.toursforafrica.net Paul Altmann wrote: John, Bill, thanks for you input. Bill wrote: Once you get in touch with one of the half dozen or so best safari outfitters in Arusha it's pretty straight-forward to set this up. Could you name some of them? This is one of the worst times to visit the Serengeti since the bulk of the migration is in Kenya OK - we've been to Kenya during migration, and found it quite morbid at times: all those carcasses in the river Mara ... When is the migration normally due to begin in the Serengeti? Mid-July? End of it? John Macdonald schrieb: We camped at some public campsites, to keep the cost down so we could have a longer holiday, but we also stayed in lodges. Do tour operators or others rent camping equipment normally? We have a report and pictures at http://www.wildworldweb.co.uk/holidays/tanzania.htm Will check that as soon as I can take the time out. Thanks |
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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
John Macdonald schrieb:
We camped at some public campsites, to keep the cost down so we could have a longer holiday, but we also stayed in lodges. Do tour operators or others rent camping equipment normally? Yes. We had a driver and cook with us. They put up the tents and did all the hard work for us. The vehicle coped well with four adults and all the equipment. On the days we stayed two nights at a campsite or lodge, the cook stayed at base - he had seen it all before! -- John Macdonald |
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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
"Paul Altmann" wrote in message
ups.com... schrieb: Are there beach locations in Tansania that can "compete" with the Kenyan coast south of Mombasa? I haven't been there, but my daughter took the ferry from Dar es Salaam to Zanzibar and liked that city/island well enough to stay for a week. She is taking my wife there when we visit in July, so she thought enough of Zanzibar to want to take her mother. (I think they also want to look for Tanzanite jewellery in Dar es Salaam. We owe her a graduation present because she just finished her degree while teaching in Uganda.) Scott |
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Hints wanted on planning for a 2-weeks Safari in Tansania
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:39:49 +0200, Paul Altmann wrote:
plan for a Tansania Safari to take place in August of 2007. Paul, some information on the sidelines can be found at http://www.michna.com/kenya.htm . Some of the info refers specifically to Kenya, but some other is more general, for example check lists of what to take with you. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please. |
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