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Need some basic info about South Africa
I and my partner will be in South Africa from September 6th to the 16th. We
will be traveling from Cape Town to Port Elizabeth and back. Our stops along the way include Hermannus, Oudtshoorn, Addo, Tsitsikamma, Wilderness, De Hoop, Boulders Beach, and a few other places. What I would like to know is: 1. Average prices or price range of restaurants. 2. Current prices of petrol. 3. Tipping policies concerning various services. 4. Banking hours. 5. Which American Credit Cards are accepted. 6. Typical driving time from town to town. (Example: Cape Town to Hermannus or Cape Town to Oudtshoorn) One good example will help me determine the other driving distances and times. 7. Any other general information that you think might be helpful. Thanks in advance for any information MB |
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Mulebear wrote:
I and my partner will be in South Africa from September 6th to the 16th. We will be traveling from Cape Town to Port Elizabeth and back. Our stops along the way include Hermannus, Oudtshoorn, Addo, Tsitsikamma, Wilderness, De Hoop, Boulders Beach, and a few other places. What I would like to know is: 1. Average prices or price range of restaurants. First - the dollar has just picked up some strength and you can expect to get (based on the current rates) about 6.8 rand for a dollar. Most places you will stay will include a very complete breakfast. Restaurants will surprise you with the quality of food, presentation. Lunches - 50 rand would be a pretty good benchmark. Dinners - start at 50 rand, rarely reach 100. This web site is sort of interesting - you can see restaurants, menus, photos.. http://www.dining-out.co.za/?gclid=C...FRg7IgodXg4DIA takes a few moments to figure out, but well worth it. Here's the page for one of the fish chain restaurants - their branch in Hermanus: http://www.dining-out.co.za/member_d...erID-2116.html also in Hermanus, the top of the line, at the Marine Hotel: http://www.dining-out.co.za/member_d...berID-104.html 2. Current prices of petrol. A little less than a dollar per litre - which will equate to something more than $3 a gallon. I always recommend avis.co.za for car rental, and look for their International Visitors Special. Credit cards are NOT accepted at the gas stations, and it is customary to tip the attendant. 3 rand would be OK. 3. Tipping policies concerning various services. Tipping levels are generally lower than in the US. I tip at least 15% at a restaurant - sometimes more - and it seems to me they are likely to be surprised. 4. Banking hours. The same, generally, as in the US. If you take travelers' checks and exchange them at one of the offices of your particular check companies, they do not charge a commission. Those offices and all banks will take 1.5% when you exchange cash for SAfrican rand. 5. Which American Credit Cards are accepted. Everything but Discover. Right now, AMEX adds 2% to all charges made overseas - Visa and Mastercard add 3%. But the exchange rate used on your charges is the best available. 6. Typical driving time from town to town. (Example: Cape Town to Hermanus or Cape Town to Oudtshoorn) Cape Town airport to Hermanus is 90 minutes. Cape Town to Oudtshoorn, 5 to 6 hours. And there is an idiosyncrasy that is amazing to visitors. Slower vehicles move to the shoulder (they don't slow down, just move over) so faster cars and trucks can pass. You drive on the left, which is easy on the highways but takes a lot more concentration in a confusing city such as Cape Town. 7. Any other general information that you think might be helpful. You listed de Hoop preserve as one of your stops - and it is a beautiful place. But not easy to get to, and I would discourage that unless you can stay there a couple of days. Accommodations are very limited, so have something arranged before driving there. We are Americans with a home in De Kelders - about a half hour farther east of Hermanus, next to the town of Gansbaai. The area is the best for whale watching and for going out in the cages to see the great white sharks. I would recommend this B&B as a place to stay: http://www.dekelders.co.za/ and the owners are a great resource for setting up the whale boat cruise or the shark cage boat. Generally, B&B's and Guest Houses are terrific accommodations and values. There are numerous web sites that can help you, and this is the one I recommend: http://www.wheretostay.co.za/ Work your way to the areas of the country that match your itienrary and you will find many choices. There is an official grading system - more stars is better and thus more expensive. But I think - if budget is an issue at all - that a 3-star place will be a nice surprise. You mentioned Wilderness as a place you might stop. Here's the page for Wilderness, as an example: http://www.wheretostay.co.za/wc/gr/a...wilderness.php Plettenberg Bay - http://www.wheretostay.co.za/wc/gr/a...enberg-bay.php Port Elizabeth - http://www.wheretostay.co.za/ec/cs/a...-elizabeth.php And you see that hotels are listed as well. September may be a lot chillier than you would expect. I am also arriving at the Cape Town airport early on September 6th - and woldn't be surprised to be met by a chilly, rainy morning. It's a little bit of everything this time of year: http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/68816.html But - I have to add that you have a picked a great time of the year - early spring. And I am sure you will have a great time. |
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Dave Patterson wrote:
You listed de Hoop preserve as one of your stops - and it is a beautiful place. But not easy to get to, and I would discourage that unless you can stay there a couple of days. Accommodations are very limited, so have something arranged before driving there. All of our accomodations have been prearranged. We were told by our travel agent that De Hoop was a bit "rustic". I think we suprised her when we said rustic was perfect for us. My partner and I are photographers and look forward to visiting places that are off the beaten path. This will be my first visit there, but my partner spent a lot of time in South Africa, Kenya, and Tanzania. Unfortunately the last time he was there was nearly 20 years ago. September may be a lot chillier than you would expect. I am also arriving at the Cape Town airport early on September 6th - and woldn't be surprised to be met by a chilly, rainy morning. It's a little bit of everything this time of year: http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/68816.html We are taking light jackets with us, but I'm also bringing shorts too. But - I have to add that you have a picked a great time of the year - early spring. And I am sure you will have a great time. The timing really worked out for us. The only thing I'm concerned about is that it may be too early for me to try any of the fresh produce. Other than that, I think our stay will be wonderful. Thanks for all the links, MB http://weabear.home.mindspring.com/wa.html |
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Need some basic info about South Africa
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:49:37 GMT, "Mulebear"
wrote: I and my partner will be in South Africa from September 6th to the 16th. We will be traveling from Cape Town to Port Elizabeth and back. Our stops along the way include Hermannus, Oudtshoorn, Addo, Tsitsikamma, Wilderness, De Hoop, Boulders Beach, and a few other places. Sounds like a full itinerary for 10 days, but you'll have a great time. What I would like to know is: 1. Average prices or price range of restaurants. Restaurants range from fast-food outlets to 5-star international, however in smaller towns there is usually one or two privately-owned restaurants in the town and then a bunch of chain restaurants selling mass-produced generic style pizzas or fish or steaks. Without being disparraging towards them (they serve tasty, but soul-less food at reasonable prices), I'd recommend that you stay away from the chains such as Steers, Ocean Basket, Fishmonger, Mimo's, Debonaires, Dros, M&A, and anywhere else where they have expresso or Don Pedro on the menu, instead of Espresso and Dom Pedro :-) The one exception I would suggest is "Nando's" (I'm not affiliated to them in ANY way :-) Nando's do a product range of fast-food Portuguese style flame-grilled chicken. The product is more expensive than most fast-food, but it is definitely superior in taste and quality. http://www.nandos.co.za If fast food is your bent, you can get a 1/4 pounder with cheese meal for just over $2. A fast-food style 12" pizza will be between $3 and $5. A Nando's 1/4 chicken meal with fries and a soft-drink is about $3.50 Finding the privately run restaurant is always a serendipidous experience. At a small family run restaurant a main course will cost between $4 and $14, with shellfish being on the more expensive side, and pasta dishes on the cheaper side. If you get a chance to try Mozambique prawns (often called LM prawns), jump at it. A fancier private restaurant will range from around $5.50 to $22 for the main course. A bottle of wine at a restaurant will cost anything from around $9 upwards. There is no wine in South Africa that is "undrinkable", so while you may not get a wine that compares with a top international wines, you will find an enormous range of good to excellent wines available, even at chain restaurants. Along that part of the coast, there is always a selection of fish and shellfish available, and fresh produce is available year-round. 2. Current prices of petrol. Petrol is currently just under $1 per litre. A word of warning, you cannot buy petrol on a credit card in South Africa. For a visitor the only option is cash. A typical car takes about 60 litres to fill, so expect to spend around $60 each time you fill up. I recommend that you fill up your car only at the larger, well-lit service stations. They're plentiful on the main routes and they're sign-posted on highways (Petroport, Shell Ultra City, Engen One-Stop, BP Osais etc.) They are safe, havesafe and clean bathroom facilities, and small shops and restaurants alongside for refreshments etc. The smaller, rural filling stations often have unsavoury elements hanging about who ask for lifts, hassle tourists etc. There is no self-service petrol available, and every station will have a petrol attendant who dispenses the fuel and takes the money. It is customary to tip the attendant, usually between R3 and R5, and you should get the windshield washed will you're filling up. It's not common, nor expected, to tip the windshield washer. 3. Tipping policies concerning various services. Tipping at restaurants is between 10% and 15% of the total. Many tourists tip more than 15% which is a welcome surprise for the waiter, however, please don't tip well if you receive only mediocre service. I'm happy to tip higher than 15% if it makes for a nice round number, and the waiter was attentive. 4. Banking hours. Most banks 9am to 3:30pm, no midday closing on weekdays, 9am to 11am on Saturdays. ATM's are available 24/7 and there are certain Bureaux de Change that are open 8:30am to 6pm, 7 days a week in major centres only. 5. Which American Credit Cards are accepted. Credit Cards (Mastercard and Visa) are widely accepted at most stores and restaurants. Amex is less commonly accepted, however all major stores, restaurants, hotels etc. accept Amex. 6. Typical driving time from town to town. (Example: Cape Town to Hermannus or Cape Town to Oudtshoorn) One good example will help me determine the other driving distances and times. Sorry, I'm 1000 miles away from there, and it's been a while since I drove that road :-) 7. Any other general information that you think might be helpful. Just the usual safety advice: 1) Don't flash cash, and be careful at ATM's 2) Keep a good eye out at traffic lights for people loitering about who may try to smash a window and grab a bag etc. If they know you are aware of them they're unlikely to try anything. 3) Stay out of areas that feel dodgy. If you feel unsafe, you are! 4) etc. etc. etc.... all the usual travel safety advice... :-) Thanks in advance for any information I hope this info has been of help. I'm sure you'll have a great time here. Marc |
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Need some basic info about South Africa
"Marc Lurie" wrote: I hope this info has been of help. I'm sure you'll have a great time here. Marc It has. Thank you. MB |
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Need some basic info about South Africa
News just in is that there has been a road collapse between George and
Wilderness along the N2 due to a rockslide. I'm trying to get clarity on the extent of the damage, but it looks like the road will be impassable for several months. I'll post more when I get more. Marc |
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Need some basic info about South Africa
Latest news is available at:
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_A...990322,00.html However, to summarise so far: It seems that parts of the Kaaimans Pass between George and Wilderness is in danger of slipping into the sea. At the moment the pass is open to light vehicles in one direction at a time, who have to follow an escort vehicle that strictly monitors the speed limit. If the road sustains any further damage, alternate routes must be used, which could add up to 350km (220 miles) to the journey. Unseasonally high rainfall is being blamed for the slippage, on a section of roadway that was scheduled for major structural improvements ironically on 1st September 2006, about 5 days after the slippage. If there are further development, I'll let everyone know. Marc |
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Need some basic info about South Africa
Thanks Marc.
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Need some basic info about South Africa
Mulebear should be back home by now. C'mon mate, where's the trip
report :-) Marc On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:49:37 GMT, "Mulebear" wrote: I and my partner will be in South Africa from September 6th to the 16th. We will be traveling from Cape Town to Port Elizabeth and back. Our stops along the way include Hermannus, Oudtshoorn, Addo, Tsitsikamma, Wilderness, De Hoop, Boulders Beach, and a few other places. What I would like to know is: 1. Average prices or price range of restaurants. 2. Current prices of petrol. 3. Tipping policies concerning various services. 4. Banking hours. 5. Which American Credit Cards are accepted. 6. Typical driving time from town to town. (Example: Cape Town to Hermannus or Cape Town to Oudtshoorn) One good example will help me determine the other driving distances and times. 7. Any other general information that you think might be helpful. Thanks in advance for any information MB |
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Need some basic info about South Africa
Sorry, I was so busy with work when we got back that I forgot to check back
into this news group. First of all... I want to thank Mr. Lurie for all of his wonderful advice and info. Knowledge really does make for a better experience. South Africa was wonderful. We will do it again. Both De Hoop and Addo were exceptional. My only regret is that we didn't book extra time at both. Our travel agent that set up all of our hotel bookings tried to talk us out of De Hoop. She felt that it was a "bit rustic and more popular with the locals". It didn't stop us from going and it proved to be an excellent start to our trip. Huge sand dunes, tidal pools, whales, ostrich, eland, bontebok, zebra, protea, birds of all sorts, and lots of other wildlife are major features of the reserve. I even got to see what I believe is a yellow mongoose. Our next stop was Wilderness, but only after passing through the section of the N2 that had been damaged by flooding. The devastation to the road was far worse than I had imagined. And now I understand that it has sustained even more damage. Wilderness was probably the low point of our trip. It had lots of ugly beach houses and very little else going for it. The exception being the people who were always friendly and helpful. I do give the town credit for my first taste of Impala. Now if I could only get Impala meat exported to the U. S.... Tsitsikama came next. It was a nice place, but unfortunately we arrived on a day when the sky was gray and the rain drizzled most of the day. We did get to watch whales and dolphin along the shore and the sounds of the ocean was very relaxing. I spent most of my time there photographing the dassies that lived on the rock between our cabin and the ocean. Once again, the people were very friendly and helpful. When we got there we were told that the "oceanette" we reserved was leaking and that we could use one of the cabins, but, if we decided that we didn't like the cabin we were in, we could switch to any of the others. It seemed to be very important to them that we were happy with our stay. The next day we headed out to Addo. It is truly an amazing park. Even though we arrived during a time when the local electrical company was testing the lines and had shut down all the power to the park, we were still impressed by how the facility was run. The staff was working hard to keep everyone happy and to constantly update us with any information they had. Even the gift shop stayed open during the outtage, but the clerks had to ring up their sales using notepads and battery operated calculators. Our cottage was beautiful, had a well equipped kitchenette, a nice covered patio, and looked out directly over the park with an additional view of a nearby watering hole. The cottages were tastefully decorated and clean and we loved the extra large shower with the huge showerhead. The park itself was brilliantly executed. It was easy to access and navigation through the park was a breeze, but you still got a sense that you were out in the middle of nowhere and that every turn would provide a new adventure. The elephants were grand and magnificent. The ostriches and the warthogs were delightfully comical. My encounter with a black backed jackal bordered on magic. Zebra and water buffalo roamed the parked without any care about the noisy vehicles that passed through the park. The occasional kudu or hartebeest would wander out of the elephant bush. Secretary birds, weavers, cape francolin, falcons, spoonbills and many other birds would appear out of nowhere. The park is also home to lions, aardvarks, vervet monkeys, turtles, snakes, rhino, meerkats, penguins, cape gannet, and many others including the flightless dung beetle. They even boast to have access to whales and great white sharks making them a home for Africa's Big Seven. We stayed in the park for two days, but I wish we had booked it for twice that. From Addo we traveled to Swartberg Pass where we stayed in a B&B, but, since we had trouble finding the place, we arrived late and had to deal with lots of rain. We decided to simply crash for the night and then head out to Hermanus the next morning via the Lesser Karoo. I really enjoyed driving through the Karoo. My partner spent lots of time in the Karoo when he was younger and doing research on euphorbia. Seeing it again after being away for so many years was a special treat for him. Hermanus has some of the greatest whale watching in the world. As long as the whales cooperate. While we were there we saw only two whales. Both at a distance. We did have a great meal in an Italian restaurant there. I had an excellent pizza with pineapple, ham, fig and mint and the dark chocolate cake was one of the best I have ever had. It was also here that I tried Amarula for the first time. What a wonderful drink. Caramel in taste with the aroma of fruit and hints of chocolate. I bought a bottle of it when I returned to the States and have been making desserts with it. Boulder's Beach was our next destination. The penguins were a delight and I spent the day photographing them and the whales that suddenly appeared off shore. Apparently the whales got lost on their way to Hermanus. Our last two days were spent in Cape Town. My partner was never a fan of Cape Town, and since he was coming down with a cold he decided to spend most of his time relaxing in bed, only to venture out to get something to eat at the nearby restaurants. I spent my time in the shops on the first day and found several CDs of South African rock bands that I took back with me. My second day I spent exploring Table Mountain, but unfortunately the weather was misbehaving and visibility at the top was almost nil. It was also very cold up there. I could tell this by all the Europeans on top of the mountain that were running around in coats and shivering. I, on the other hand, was wandering about in shorts and a T-shirt. I'm sure they thought I was crazy, but cold has never bothered me and only after I realized that the cloud was not going to pass anytime soon did I finally board the cable car for the trip back to the bottom of the mountain. Later that day we packed up our luggage and goodies and headed back to the airport. The only really bad part of our trip happened when we landed at JFK to transfer to a connecting flight. Our experience at JFK could fill a book, so I won't try to explain what happened, but I will say that I will never connect another flight there again. Never. But, I will go back to South Africa. MB And here are some of the pictures. http://weabear1.home.mindspring.com/sa.html "Marc Lurie" wrote in message ... Mulebear should be back home by now. C'mon mate, where's the trip report :-) Marc On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:49:37 GMT, "Mulebear" wrote: |
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