world's worst tourists

Sloopy wrote:
(Miguel Cruz) wrote:
Sloopy wrote:
Tell me what you can't say that you could say before the Patriot Act.

"Welcome to the public library. In the past week we have responded to a
subpoena for one of our borrowers' records."

That's it?

You're mad that if there's probable cause that you're a terrorist that
the investigators have a new tool to catch you?

Your response would be just as appropriate if the topic at hand were a
device that could torture answers out of children whose parents were
suspected of seditious thought.

It's not like the government is going to be able to randomly supoena
library records, Miguel.

The point - and the reason I said this in response to a question about
freedom of SPEECH (and not freedom from arbitrary search/seizure) is that
librarians are gagged from talking about whether or not it has happened,
even in a very broad way. This constrains them from participating in debate
about a very sensitive issue.

miguel
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Yourname wrote:
What makes this newsgroup dedicated to European travel?

What makes you and Mason unable to read a/the Newsgroups line?

What makes you lack the courtesy to post an interleaved response to an
interleaved response?

What makes you unable to include an attribution line?

What ... [1]

What I really wonder is why, in a newsgroup dedicated to European
travel, 10% of the posts are concerned with travel and 90% with
bashing some other country?


Mason Barge

[1] And at the moment, I'm not even grumpy, so you're warned!

Miguel Cruz writes:

Didn't you just tell someone else to focus on the topic and not the
discussants?

Most of the people who whispered about Andrew Carnegie are dead, and
none of them is participating here.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Miguel Cruz writes:
Didn't you just tell someone else to focus on the topic and not the
discussants?

Most of the people who whispered about Andrew Carnegie are dead, and
none of them is participating here.

It's fairly clear that your use of "as well" was meant to lump David in with
them in your famous "angry young male" category. And if not, then your usage
was misleading.

miguel
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"Mxsmanic" schreef in bericht
...
Sjoerd writes:

Lived nowhere.

Mxsmanic, the quality of your trolling is rapidly going down-hill. You used
to be mildly amusing, but you seem to be getting old, baby.

Sjoerd

In article ,
says...

Mxsmanic, the quality of your trolling is rapidly going down-hill. You used
to be mildly amusing, but you seem to be getting old, baby.

Just ignore him. This thread is way off-topic anyway.
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Gregory Morrow wrote in message
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Deep Freud Moors wrote:

With all due respect to the Americans, the US is just like on TV, except
a
bit moreso. In my first visit I felt as though I had already spent much
time
there just because of the amount of US TV I have been exposed to. Europe
was, however, much more surprising in this regard, because European
culture
cannot be summed up on screen.


When I first visited the UK I thought I was in a real - life version of
_Fawlty Towers_....

I was thinking Coronation St...
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DFM

Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne writes:

... you mistakenly confuse having a hunch, or
suspecting something, with forming an opinion.

Uh ... they are the same thing.

Uh ... sez you.

David

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Patrick Powers wrote in message
om...
"Deep Freud Moors" wrote in
message .. .
Does this make the inhabitants of Paris 'less rich' somehow?

Yes. Less freedom.


What freedoms do Americans have that Europeans don't?

(I have asked this question a number of times in usenet land, and never
gotten much of an answer)
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DFM

I can tell you that Europeans have considerably more freedom of
political choice than Americans. The number of political parties is
higher in every European country and the spectrum of political choice
much broader. Americans complain loudly and constantly about their
lack of choice but nothing much seems to be changing.

No one asked, but I find intellectual life in Bali and Nepal more free
than either Europe or the US. Surprising, isn't it?

I think we can conclude from the responses here (and elsewhere) that it very
much depends on your definition of 'freedom'. And just because you are
assured that you are the free-est, doesn't necessarily mean you actually
are. Freedom is not a universally good thing anyway, with some restrictions
being necessary for a healthy society. Just go visit a country that is in
complete anarchy, and you will see what I mean. The folks in Iraq may be
free now (by some definitions), but their incomes are half what they used to
be, and they have bugger all security. Try telling them they are much better
off!

Basically freedom is just one of a number of ingredients needed to make
society function properly. It's existence does not make one instantly better
off. This concept seems to be beyond the grasp of many people...
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DFM

David Horne writes:

Uh ... sez you.

Hunches and suspicions are not the result of deductive logic. They are
thus opinions only.

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