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Old January 1st, 2004, 05:03 AM
Casey
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Brazil to fingerprint US citizens

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3358627.stm


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Old January 1st, 2004, 06:56 AM
mrraveltay
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Casey wrote:

Brazil to fingerprint US citizens

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3358627.stm


How can he compare fingerprinting to "worthy of the worst horrors
committed by the Nazis"??

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Old January 1st, 2004, 06:46 PM
Auzerais310
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Brazil Nuts

"I consider the act absolutely brutal,
threatening human rights, violating human
dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst
horrors committed by the Nazis."


See if you can guess to what the quote is referring:

--The Sept. 11 attacks.
--Mass murders by Palestinian suicide bombers.
--Atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein's erstwhile Iraqi regime.

The correct answer, of course, is none of the above.

The quote, from Julier Sebastiao da Silva, a Brazilian judge, refers to
American plans to photograph and fingerprint Brazilians entering the
U.S.

Reuters reports this "distinguished jurist" has retaliated by issuing a
court order mandating fingerprinting and photographing of Americans
visiting Brazil
[--which, by his own lights, makes him a Nazi too].

We suspect the result will be less U.S. tourism to Brazil
--not because fingerprints and photographs are really a major
indignity,
but because no one will want to spend time and money in a country
populated by jerks like Julier Sebastiao da Silva.

Besides, as blogger Edward Morrissey notes, you'd think that boys from
Brazil would be especially cautious about throwing around Nazi analogies

LOL

Best of the Web 12/31/03

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Old January 2nd, 2004, 04:37 AM
Vareck Bostrom
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I have to say... who cares? If I want to visit Brazil, they can finger
print and photograph me if they think it makes them feel safer. What's
the big deal?


In article ,
(Auzerais310) wrote:

Brazil Nuts

"I consider the act absolutely brutal,
threatening human rights, violating human
dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst
horrors committed by the Nazis."


See if you can guess to what the quote is referring:

--The Sept. 11 attacks.
--Mass murders by Palestinian suicide bombers.
--Atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein's erstwhile Iraqi regime.

The correct answer, of course, is none of the above.

The quote, from Julier Sebastiao da Silva, a Brazilian judge, refers to
American plans to photograph and fingerprint Brazilians entering the
U.S.

Reuters reports this "distinguished jurist" has retaliated by issuing a
court order mandating fingerprinting and photographing of Americans
visiting Brazil
[--which, by his own lights, makes him a Nazi too].

We suspect the result will be less U.S. tourism to Brazil
--not because fingerprints and photographs are really a major
indignity,
but because no one will want to spend time and money in a country
populated by jerks like Julier Sebastiao da Silva.

Besides, as blogger Edward Morrissey notes, you'd think that boys from
Brazil would be especially cautious about throwing around Nazi analogies

LOL

Best of the Web 12/31/03

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Old January 2nd, 2004, 11:44 AM
Simon Elliott
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Vareck Bostrom writes
I have to say... who cares? If I want to visit Brazil, they can finger
print and photograph me if they think it makes them feel safer. What's
the big deal?


It's not about the Brazilians feeling safer. It's a silly tit-for-tat
****ing contest, such as often happens in immigration matters.

Thankfully since I'm a UK citizen it doesn't apply to me. But these
practices have a way of spreading.

There's no mention of how long the Brazilian authorities plan to keep
the data for, what they plan to do with it, and who will have access to
it. Anyone know if Brazil has data protection legislation?

I've entered and left Brazil by road at least as often as by air. I
wonder if they are planning to carry out these procedures at the land
border posts? If not, it's all a bit of a waste of time, isn't it?
--
Simon Elliott
http://www.ctsn.co.uk/






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Old January 2nd, 2004, 08:33 PM
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"Casey" wrote in message
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Brazil to fingerprint US citizens

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3358627.stm


Who the hell wants to go to a dirty dump like Brazil?



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Old January 2nd, 2004, 10:03 PM
Simon Elliott
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ThrashATL writes

"Casey" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Brazil to fingerprint US citizens

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3358627.stm


Who the hell wants to go to a dirty dump like Brazil?


3,783,400 people in 2002, including 636,460 from the US.
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Simon Elliott
http://www.ctsn.co.uk/






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Old January 3rd, 2004, 09:05 PM
admin
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:44:53 +0000, Simon Elliott wrote:

I've entered and left Brazil by road at least as often as by air. I
wonder if they are planning to carry out these procedures at the land
border posts? If not, it's all a bit of a waste of time, isn't it?


Wow, how did you do that, by road? From Argentina or Uruguay?

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Old January 3rd, 2004, 10:00 PM
Simon Elliott
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admin writes
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:44:53 +0000, Simon Elliott wrote:

I've entered and left Brazil by road at least as often as by air. I
wonder if they are planning to carry out these procedures at the land
border posts? If not, it's all a bit of a waste of time, isn't it?


Wow, how did you do that, by road? From Argentina or Uruguay?


1993:

Sau Paulo-Foz De Iguassu Varig
Foz De Iguassu - Tancredo Neves bridge by bus
Cross from Brazil to Argentina
Tancredo Neves bridge - Puerto do Iguazu by bus
Stay overnight in Puerto do Iguazu and visit falls
Puerto do Iguazu - Tancredo Neves bridge by bus
Cross from Argentina to Brazil
Tancredo Neves bridge = Foz De Iguassu by bus
Foz De Iguassu - Buenos Aires Ezeiza LAPA (IIRC)

1997:

Sau Paulo-Foz De Iguassu Varig
Foz De Iguassu - Tancredo Neves bridge by bus
Cross from Brazil to Argentina
Tancredo Neves bridge - Puerto do Iguazu by bus
Stay overnight in Puerto do Iguazu and visit falls
Puerto do Iguazu - Buenos Aires Ezeiza Aerolineas Argentina
--
Simon Elliott
http://www.ctsn.co.uk/






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Old January 4th, 2004, 03:59 PM
devil
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 22:00:12 +0000, Simon Elliott wrote:

admin writes
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 11:44:53 +0000, Simon Elliott wrote:

I've entered and left Brazil by road at least as often as by air. I
wonder if they are planning to carry out these procedures at the land
border posts? If not, it's all a bit of a waste of time, isn't it?


Wow, how did you do that, by road? From Argentina or Uruguay?


1993:

Sau Paulo-Foz De Iguassu Varig
Foz De Iguassu - Tancredo Neves bridge by bus
Cross from Brazil to Argentina
Tancredo Neves bridge - Puerto do Iguazu by bus
Stay overnight in Puerto do Iguazu and visit falls
Puerto do Iguazu - Tancredo Neves bridge by bus
Cross from Argentina to Brazil
Tancredo Neves bridge = Foz De Iguassu by bus
Foz De Iguassu - Buenos Aires Ezeiza LAPA (IIRC)

1997:

Sau Paulo-Foz De Iguassu Varig
Foz De Iguassu - Tancredo Neves bridge by bus
Cross from Brazil to Argentina
Tancredo Neves bridge - Puerto do Iguazu by bus
Stay overnight in Puerto do Iguazu and visit falls
Puerto do Iguazu - Buenos Aires Ezeiza Aerolineas Argentina


Sounds like you are not really traveling to Brazil...

Really, you are visiting Foz do Iguacu...


 




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