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The last refuge of a liberal
The last refuge of a liberal
COMMENT 2226 Comments | View All » POST A COMMENT WHO'S BLOGGING » Links to this article By Charles Krauthammer Friday, August 27, 2010 "Liberalism under siege is an ugly sight indeed. Just yesterday it was all hope and change and returning power to the people. But the people have proved so disappointing. Their recalcitrance has, in only 19 months, turned the predicted 40-year liberal ascendancy (James Carville) into a full retreat. Ah, the people, the little people, the small-town people, the "bitter" people, as Barack Obama in an unguarded moment once memorably called them, clinging "to guns or religion or" -- this part is less remembered -- "antipathy toward people who aren't like them." That's a polite way of saying: clinging to bigotry. And promiscuous charges of bigotry are precisely how our current rulers and their vast media auxiliary react to an obstreperous citizenry that insists on incorrect thinking. -- Resistance to the vast expansion of government power, intrusiveness and debt, as represented by the Tea Party movement? Why, racist resentment toward a black president. -- Disgust and alarm with the federal government's unwillingness to curb illegal immigration, as crystallized in the Arizona law? Nativism. -- Opposition to the most radical redefinition of marriage in human history, as expressed in Proposition 8 in California? Homophobia. -- Opposition to a 15-story Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero? Islamophobia. Now we know why the country has become "ungovernable," last year's excuse for the Democrats' failure of governance: Who can possibly govern a nation of racist, nativist, homophobic Islamophobes? Note what connects these issues. In every one, liberals have lost the argument in the court of public opinion. Majorities -- often lopsided majorities -- oppose President Obama's social-democratic agenda (e.g., the stimulus, Obamacare), support the Arizona law, oppose gay marriage and reject a mosque near Ground Zero. What's a liberal to do? Pull out the bigotry charge, the trump that preempts debate and gives no credit to the seriousness and substance of the contrary argument. The most venerable of these trumps is, of course, the race card. When the Tea Party arose, a spontaneous, leaderless and perfectly natural (and traditionally American) reaction to the vast expansion of government intrinsic to the president's proudly proclaimed transformational agenda, the liberal commentariat cast it as a mob of angry white yahoos disguising their antipathy to a black president by cleverly speaking in economic terms. Then came Arizona and S.B. 1070. It seems impossible for the left to believe that people of good will could hold that: (a) illegal immigration should be illegal, (b) the federal government should not hold border enforcement hostage to comprehensive reform, i.e., amnesty, (c) every country has the right to determine the composition of its immigrant population. As for Proposition 8, is it so hard to see why people might believe that a single judge overturning the will of 7 million voters is an affront to democracy? And that seeing merit in retaining the structure of the most ancient and fundamental of all social institutions is something other than an alleged hatred of gays -- particularly since the opposite-gender requirement has characterized virtually every society in all the millennia until just a few years ago? And now the mosque near Ground Zero. The intelligentsia is near unanimous that the only possible grounds for opposition is bigotry toward Muslims. This smug attribution of bigotry to two-thirds of the population hinges on the insistence on a complete lack of connection between Islam and radical Islam, a proposition that dovetails perfectly with the Obama administration's pretense that we are at war with nothing more than "violent extremists" of inscrutable motive and indiscernible belief. Those who reject this as both ridiculous and politically correct (an admitted redundancy) are declared Islamophobes, the ad hominem du jour. It is a measure of the corruption of liberal thought and the collapse of its self-confidence that, finding itself so widely repudiated, it resorts reflexively to the cheapest race-baiting (in a colorful variety of forms). Indeed, how can one reason with a nation of pitchfork-wielding mobs brimming with "antipathy toward people who aren't like them" -- blacks, Hispanics, gays and Muslims -- a nation that is, as Michelle Obama once put it succinctly, "just downright mean"? The Democrats are going to get beaten badly in November. Not just because the economy is ailing. And not just because Obama over-read his mandate in governing too far left. But because a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites whose undisguised contempt for the great unwashed prevents them from conceding a modicum of serious thought to those who dare oppose them." link- Washington Post: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths239a10 |
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The last refuge of a liberal
the last refuge of dirty jews and hillbillies, the first too,
looking out for their wealthy masters even if it means ****ing themselves "PJ Himselff" wrote in message ... The last refuge of a liberal COMMENT 2226 Comments | View All » POST A COMMENT WHO'S BLOGGING » Links to this article By Charles Krauthammer Friday, August 27, 2010 "Liberalism under siege is an ugly sight indeed. Just yesterday it was all hope and change and returning power to the people. But the people have proved so disappointing. Their recalcitrance has, in only 19 months, turned the predicted 40-year liberal ascendancy (James Carville) into a full retreat. Ah, the people, the little people, the small-town people, the "bitter" people, as Barack Obama in an unguarded moment once memorably called them, clinging "to guns or religion or" -- this part is less remembered -- "antipathy toward people who aren't like them." That's a polite way of saying: clinging to bigotry. And promiscuous charges of bigotry are precisely how our current rulers and their vast media auxiliary react to an obstreperous citizenry that insists on incorrect thinking. -- Resistance to the vast expansion of government power, intrusiveness and debt, as represented by the Tea Party movement? Why, racist resentment toward a black president. -- Disgust and alarm with the federal government's unwillingness to curb illegal immigration, as crystallized in the Arizona law? Nativism. -- Opposition to the most radical redefinition of marriage in human history, as expressed in Proposition 8 in California? Homophobia. -- Opposition to a 15-story Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero? Islamophobia. Now we know why the country has become "ungovernable," last year's excuse for the Democrats' failure of governance: Who can possibly govern a nation of racist, nativist, homophobic Islamophobes? Note what connects these issues. In every one, liberals have lost the argument in the court of public opinion. Majorities -- often lopsided majorities -- oppose President Obama's social-democratic agenda (e.g., the stimulus, Obamacare), support the Arizona law, oppose gay marriage and reject a mosque near Ground Zero. What's a liberal to do? Pull out the bigotry charge, the trump that preempts debate and gives no credit to the seriousness and substance of the contrary argument. The most venerable of these trumps is, of course, the race card. When the Tea Party arose, a spontaneous, leaderless and perfectly natural (and traditionally American) reaction to the vast expansion of government intrinsic to the president's proudly proclaimed transformational agenda, the liberal commentariat cast it as a mob of angry white yahoos disguising their antipathy to a black president by cleverly speaking in economic terms. Then came Arizona and S.B. 1070. It seems impossible for the left to believe that people of good will could hold that: (a) illegal immigration should be illegal, (b) the federal government should not hold border enforcement hostage to comprehensive reform, i.e., amnesty, (c) every country has the right to determine the composition of its immigrant population. As for Proposition 8, is it so hard to see why people might believe that a single judge overturning the will of 7 million voters is an affront to democracy? And that seeing merit in retaining the structure of the most ancient and fundamental of all social institutions is something other than an alleged hatred of gays -- particularly since the opposite-gender requirement has characterized virtually every society in all the millennia until just a few years ago? And now the mosque near Ground Zero. The intelligentsia is near unanimous that the only possible grounds for opposition is bigotry toward Muslims. This smug attribution of bigotry to two-thirds of the population hinges on the insistence on a complete lack of connection between Islam and radical Islam, a proposition that dovetails perfectly with the Obama administration's pretense that we are at war with nothing more than "violent extremists" of inscrutable motive and indiscernible belief. Those who reject this as both ridiculous and politically correct (an admitted redundancy) are declared Islamophobes, the ad hominem du jour. It is a measure of the corruption of liberal thought and the collapse of its self-confidence that, finding itself so widely repudiated, it resorts reflexively to the cheapest race-baiting (in a colorful variety of forms). Indeed, how can one reason with a nation of pitchfork-wielding mobs brimming with "antipathy toward people who aren't like them" -- blacks, Hispanics, gays and Muslims -- a nation that is, as Michelle Obama once put it succinctly, "just downright mean"? The Democrats are going to get beaten badly in November. Not just because the economy is ailing. And not just because Obama over-read his mandate in governing too far left. But because a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites whose undisguised contempt for the great unwashed prevents them from conceding a modicum of serious thought to those who dare oppose them." link- Washington Post: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths239a10 |
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:26:43 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, PJ
Himselff , wrote The last refuge of a liberal COMMENT 2226 Comments | View All » POST A COMMENT WHO'S BLOGGING » Links to this article By Charles Krauthammer Friday, August 27, 2010 "Liberalism under siege is an ugly sight indeed. Just yesterday it was all hope and change and returning power to the people. But the people have proved so disappointing. Their recalcitrance has, in only 19 months, turned the predicted 40-year liberal ascendancy (James Carville) into a full retreat. Ah, the people, the little people, the small-town people, the "bitter" people, as Barack Obama in an unguarded moment once memorably called them, clinging "to guns or religion or" -- this part is less remembered -- "antipathy toward people who aren't like them." That's a polite way of saying: clinging to bigotry. And promiscuous charges of bigotry are precisely how our current rulers and their vast media auxiliary react to an obstreperous citizenry that insists on incorrect thinking. -- Resistance to the vast expansion of government power, intrusiveness and debt, as represented by the Tea Party movement? Why, racist resentment toward a black president. -- Disgust and alarm with the federal government's unwillingness to curb illegal immigration, as crystallized in the Arizona law? Nativism. -- Opposition to the most radical redefinition of marriage in human history, as expressed in Proposition 8 in California? Homophobia. -- Opposition to a 15-story Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero? Islamophobia. Now we know why the country has become "ungovernable," last year's excuse for the Democrats' failure of governance: Who can possibly govern a nation of racist, nativist, homophobic Islamophobes? Note what connects these issues. In every one, liberals have lost the argument in the court of public opinion. Majorities -- often lopsided majorities -- oppose President Obama's social-democratic agenda (e.g., the stimulus, Obamacare), support the Arizona law, oppose gay marriage and reject a mosque near Ground Zero. What's a liberal to do? Pull out the bigotry charge, the trump that preempts debate and gives no credit to the seriousness and substance of the contrary argument. The most venerable of these trumps is, of course, the race card. When the Tea Party arose, a spontaneous, leaderless and perfectly natural (and traditionally American) reaction to the vast expansion of government intrinsic to the president's proudly proclaimed transformational agenda, the liberal commentariat cast it as a mob of angry white yahoos disguising their antipathy to a black president by cleverly speaking in economic terms. Then came Arizona and S.B. 1070. It seems impossible for the left to believe that people of good will could hold that: (a) illegal immigration should be illegal, (b) the federal government should not hold border enforcement hostage to comprehensive reform, i.e., amnesty, (c) every country has the right to determine the composition of its immigrant population. As for Proposition 8, is it so hard to see why people might believe that a single judge overturning the will of 7 million voters is an affront to democracy? And that seeing merit in retaining the structure of the most ancient and fundamental of all social institutions is something other than an alleged hatred of gays -- particularly since the opposite-gender requirement has characterized virtually every society in all the millennia until just a few years ago? And now the mosque near Ground Zero. The intelligentsia is near unanimous that the only possible grounds for opposition is bigotry toward Muslims. This smug attribution of bigotry to two-thirds of the population hinges on the insistence on a complete lack of connection between Islam and radical Islam, a proposition that dovetails perfectly with the Obama administration's pretense that we are at war with nothing more than "violent extremists" of inscrutable motive and indiscernible belief. Those who reject this as both ridiculous and politically correct (an admitted redundancy) are declared Islamophobes, the ad hominem du jour. It is a measure of the corruption of liberal thought and the collapse of its self-confidence that, finding itself so widely repudiated, it resorts reflexively to the cheapest race-baiting (in a colorful variety of forms). Indeed, how can one reason with a nation of pitchfork-wielding mobs brimming with "antipathy toward people who aren't like them" -- blacks, Hispanics, gays and Muslims -- a nation that is, as Michelle Obama once put it succinctly, "just downright mean"? The Democrats are going to get beaten badly in November. Not just because the economy is ailing. And not just because Obama over-read his mandate in governing too far left. But because a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites whose undisguised contempt for the great unwashed prevents them from conceding a modicum of serious thought to those who dare oppose them." link- Washington Post: http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths239a10 Excellent article. Usenet is a roiling crucible of those bullet points. |
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On Aug 30, 4:03*pm, Donna Evleth wrote:
From: Mitchell Holman Organization: TDSOTF Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:35:48 -0500 Subject: The last refuge of a liberal PJ Himselff wrote in news:d7c72a47-d3de-4300-90ac- : On Aug 30, 7:23*am, Donna Evleth the self proclaimed 'historian' pontificated to usenet *The reason the *United States went into that conflict was because Germ any had declared war on them. * * . Donna Evleth- - Then the reason that Germany went to war with France was because France, like the British Empire, *declared war on Germany When did France "declare" war on Germany? Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: "September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. *On September 3, Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." Donna Evleth - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wars are bloody bad. Even the more righteous kind, like WWII. Donna Evleth So saving the French from the Nazis is righteous but saving New York City from further al Qaeda attacks isn't? Bill Bonde Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: "September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. On September 3, Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." Donna Evleth IOW our self proclaimed 'historian' is saying here is that ZFwench were forced to declare war on Germany to save Poland from the Nazis but ZFwench were not concerned when the Bolsheviks invaded Poland also in Sept 1939, seizing more Polish territory than the Germans in doing so? Yep. For Leftism WWII certainly was really the only 'good war for them'. LOL at the logic of a self proclaimed 'historian'. |
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On Aug 30, 4:03*pm, Donna Evleth wrote:
From: Mitchell Holman Organization: TDSOTF Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:35:48 -0500 Subject: The last refuge of a liberal PJ Himselff wrote in news:d7c72a47-d3de-4300-90ac- : On Aug 30, 7:23*am, Donna Evleth the self proclaimed 'historian' pontificated to usenet *The reason the *United States went into that conflict was because Germ any had declared war on them. * * . Donna Evleth- - Then the reason that Germany went to war with France was because France, like the British Empire, *declared war on Germany When did France "declare" war on Germany? Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: "September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. *On September 3, Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." Donna Evleth - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: "September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. On September 3, Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." Donna Evleth The above covers the Fwench perception of the provocations by Germany justifying the Fwench to delare their war on Germany Below is the German declaration of war on the US which includes the German perception of provocations by the US justifying the Germans to declare war on the US. To my knowledge none of the German accusations of US provocations have ever been disputed © 1997 The Avalon Project. The Avalon Project : The German Declaration of War with the United States : December 11, 1941 The text of the note which the German representatives handed to Mr. Ray Atherton, Chief of the European Division of the State Department, at 9:30 A.M., December 11, the original of which had been delivered the morning of December 11 to the American Charge d'Affaires in Berlin, follows: MR. CHARGE D'AFFAIRES: The Government of the United States having violated in the most flagrant manner and in ever increasing measure all rules of neutrality in favor of the adversaries of Germany and having continually been guilty of the most severe provocations toward Germany ever since the outbreak of the European war, provoked by the British declaration of war against Germany on September 3, 1939, has finally resorted to open military acts of aggression. On September 11, 1941, the President of the United States publicly declared that he had ordered the American Navy and Air Force to shoot on sight at any German war vessel. In his speech of October 27, 1941, he once more expressly affirmed that this order was in force. Acting under this order, vessels of the American Navy, since early September 1941, have systematically attacked German naval forces. Thus, American destroyers, as for instance the Greer, the Kearney and the Reuben James, have opened fire on German sub-marines according to plan. The Secretary of the American Navy, Mr. Knox, himself confirmed that-American destroyers attacked German submarines. Furthermore, the naval forces of the United States, under order of their Government and contrary to international law have treated and seized German merchant vessels on the high seas as enemy ships. The German Government therefore establishes the following facts: Although Germany on her part has strictly adhered to the rules of international law in her relations with the United States during every period of the present war, the Government of the United States from initial violations of neutrality has finally proceeded to open acts of war against Germany. The Government of the United States has thereby virtually created a state of war. The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America. Accept, Mr. Charge d'Affaires, the expression of my high consideration. December 11, 1941. RIBBENTROP. Source: Department of State Bulletin, December 13, 1941. Washington, DC : Government Printing Office, 1941http://sangha.net/ messengers/roosevelt.htm - |
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On Aug 31, 8:06*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote: On Aug 30, 4:03*pm, Donna Evleth wrote: From: Mitchell Holman Organization: TDSOTF Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:35:48 -0500 Subject: The last refuge of a liberal PJ Himselff wrote in news:d7c72a47-d3de-4300-90ac- : On Aug 30, 7:23*am, Donna Evleth the self proclaimed 'historian' pontificated to usenet *The reason the *United States went into that conflict was because Germ any had declared war on them. * * . Donna Evleth- - Then the reason that Germany went to war with France was because France, like the British Empire, *declared war on Germany When did France "declare" war on Germany? Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: "September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. *On September 3, Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." Donna Evleth - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - *Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: *"September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. *On September 3, *Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this *time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." *Donna Evleth The above covers the Fwench perception of the provocations by Germany justifying the Fwench to delare their war on Germany Below is the German declaration of war on the US which includes the German perception of provocations by the US justifying the Germans to declare war on the US. To my knowledge none of the German accusations of US provocations have ever been disputed © 1997 The Avalon Project. The Avalon Project : The German Declaration of War with the United States : December 11, 1941 The text of the note which the German representatives handed to Mr. Ray Atherton, Chief of the European Division of the State Department, at 9:30 A.M., December 11, the original of which had been delivered the morning of December 11 to the American Charge d'Affaires in Berlin, follows: MR. CHARGE D'AFFAIRES: The Government of the United States having violated in the most flagrant manner and in ever increasing measure all rules of neutrality in favor of the adversaries of Germany and having continually been guilty of the most severe provocations toward Germany ever since the outbreak of the European war, provoked by the British declaration of war against Germany on September 3, 1939, has finally resorted to open military acts of aggression. On September 11, 1941, the President of the United States publicly declared that he had ordered the American Navy and Air Force to shoot on sight at any German war vessel. In his speech of October 27, 1941, he once more expressly affirmed that this order was in force. Acting under this order, vessels of the American Navy, since early September 1941, have systematically attacked German naval forces. Thus, American destroyers, as for instance the Greer, the Kearney and the Reuben James, have opened fire on German sub-marines according to plan. The Secretary of the American Navy, Mr. Knox, himself confirmed that-American destroyers attacked German submarines. Furthermore, the naval forces of the United States, under order of their Government and contrary to international law have treated and seized German merchant vessels on the high seas as enemy ships. The German Government therefore establishes the following facts: Although Germany on her part has strictly adhered to the rules of international law in her relations with the United States during every period of the present war, the Government of the United States from initial violations of neutrality has finally proceeded to open acts of war against Germany. The Government of the United States has thereby virtually created a state of war. The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America. Accept, Mr. Charge d'Affaires, the expression of my high consideration. December 11, 1941. RIBBENTROP. Source: Department of State Bulletin, December 13, 1941. Washington, DC : Government Printing Office, 1941http://sangha.net/ messengers/roosevelt.htm *- I stop by every so often only to offer information. I worked in US war plans. They are designed to affect the "future state" and what rationale exists to execute them is according to each nation's national interests. The roots of WWII go back to the Treaty of Versailles (read the Guns of August by Barbara Tuchman) which basically says that WWI was preordained by European countries having such interlinked defense treaties that anything could set it off. And the assassination of some remote Archduke of Serbia did it. WWII was preordained by the conditions of so-called peace. It does not make any difference what the political rationale is. The conditions make the war. The war in Iraq was preordained and whether there was, or was not, any weapons of mass destruction (and there was because the US and the UK provided them to Hussain) it was going to happen, one way or the other. If it was not this rationale then there would be another rationale. And if you think we are alone in this, look at the rationale for North Korea invading the south. And North Vietnam invading the south (a good masquerade that local Viet Cong bit.) Invasions occur because the conditions are ripe The rationale follows. |
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billzz wrote:
On Aug 31, 8:06 am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote: On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, Donna Evleth wrote: From: Mitchell Holman Organization: TDSOTF Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:35:48 -0500 Subject: The last refuge of a liberal PJ Himselff wrote in news:d7c72a47-d3de-4300-90ac- : On Aug 30, 7:23 am, Donna Evleth the self proclaimed 'historian' pontificated to usenet The reason the United States went into that conflict was because Germ any had declared war on them. . Donna Evleth- - Then the reason that Germany went to war with France was because France, like the British Empire, declared war on Germany When did France "declare" war on Germany? Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: "September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. On September 3, Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." Donna Evleth - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - Here is how my French Petit Robert dictionary answers this question: "September first, 1939, Germans forces entered Poland. On September 3, Great Britain, which had a commitment to Poland, and France, determined this time to support its ally, declared war on Germany." Donna Evleth The above covers the Fwench perception of the provocations by Germany justifying the Fwench to delare their war on Germany Below is the German declaration of war on the US which includes the German perception of provocations by the US justifying the Germans to declare war on the US. To my knowledge none of the German accusations of US provocations have ever been disputed © 1997 The Avalon Project. The Avalon Project : The German Declaration of War with the United States : December 11, 1941 The text of the note which the German representatives handed to Mr. Ray Atherton, Chief of the European Division of the State Department, at 9:30 A.M., December 11, the original of which had been delivered the morning of December 11 to the American Charge d'Affaires in Berlin, follows: MR. CHARGE D'AFFAIRES: The Government of the United States having violated in the most flagrant manner and in ever increasing measure all rules of neutrality in favor of the adversaries of Germany and having continually been guilty of the most severe provocations toward Germany ever since the outbreak of the European war, provoked by the British declaration of war against Germany on September 3, 1939, has finally resorted to open military acts of aggression. On September 11, 1941, the President of the United States publicly declared that he had ordered the American Navy and Air Force to shoot on sight at any German war vessel. In his speech of October 27, 1941, he once more expressly affirmed that this order was in force. Acting under this order, vessels of the American Navy, since early September 1941, have systematically attacked German naval forces. Thus, American destroyers, as for instance the Greer, the Kearney and the Reuben James, have opened fire on German sub-marines according to plan. The Secretary of the American Navy, Mr. Knox, himself confirmed that-American destroyers attacked German submarines. Furthermore, the naval forces of the United States, under order of their Government and contrary to international law have treated and seized German merchant vessels on the high seas as enemy ships. The German Government therefore establishes the following facts: Although Germany on her part has strictly adhered to the rules of international law in her relations with the United States during every period of the present war, the Government of the United States from initial violations of neutrality has finally proceeded to open acts of war against Germany. The Government of the United States has thereby virtually created a state of war. The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America. Accept, Mr. Charge d'Affaires, the expression of my high consideration. December 11, 1941. RIBBENTROP. Source: Department of State Bulletin, December 13, 1941. Washington, DC : Government Printing Office, 1941http://sangha.net/ messengers/roosevelt.htm - I stop by every so often only to offer information. I worked in US war plans. They are designed to affect the "future state" and what rationale exists to execute them is according to each nation's national interests. The roots of WWII go back to the Treaty of Versailles (read the Guns of August by Barbara Tuchman) which basically says that WWI was preordained by European countries having such interlinked defense treaties that anything could set it off. And the assassination of some remote Archduke of Serbia did it. WWII was preordained by the conditions of so-called peace. It does not make any difference what the political rationale is. The conditions make the war. The war in Iraq was preordained and whether there was, or was not, any weapons of mass destruction (and there was because the US and the UK provided them to Hussain) it was going to happen, one way or the other. If it was not this rationale then there would be another rationale. And if you think we are alone in this, look at the rationale for North Korea invading the south. And North Vietnam invading the south (a good masquerade that local Viet Cong bit.) Invasions occur because the conditions are ripe The rationale follows. Hmm...interesting enough but questionable. Bound to be of course. Explain the rational for North Korea invading the south especially considering the large American force stationed there. Indeed it would be difficult to find any rationality in North Korea both domestic and foreign other than the desire to retain power by the family of mad men who have controlled NK since 1945. |
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