Christmas vs "Holidays"

"Bryan" wrote in message
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jsmith wrote:

The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas for a number
of years now and are substituting irrelevant (religious ??) concoctions to
diminish the value of the celebration of the birth of Christ. Isn't it time
we begin boycotting those merchants who in their TV advertising are
exploiting the Christmas tradition yet not acknowledging that this is truly
the Christmas season. The code word "holiday" season is coming into
increasing use in an effort to minimize the influence the Truths that were
taught by the Prince of Peace.


You're such a dumbass! The use of the word holidays in lieu of
christmas is an effort to practice behavior that includes people instead
of excluding people.

There's nothing anti-christian about it and no one is attempting to
minimize the celebration of the meaning of christmas.

Which we all know is originally the celebration of the return of the Sun to the
Northern Hemisphere! Which is after all, what counts! Otherwise, no crops!

Would you ****heads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?
"James A. Doemer" wrote in message
nk.net...

"John Woodgate" wrote in message
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I read in sci.electronics.design that James A. Doemer
wrote (in
.pas.earthlink.net) about 'Christmas vs "Holidays"', on Fri, 17 Dec
2004:

"John Woodgate" wrote in message
news I read in sci.electronics.design that Kevin Aylward
wrote (in

onder.co.uk) about 'Christmas vs "Holidays"', on Fri, 17 Dec 2004:

So, Paul (if he existed) died, and no one
noticed.

There IS reliable independent evidence that Paul existed.

Such as?


Go look. I don't have to spoon-feed you with information.

I see, so such "reliable information" doesn't exist despite your claim.
So
noted.

Rich Grise wrote:
Xians don't seem to have any sacred dates of their own so they hijack
those of whatever pagans lands they invade.

Anyone would think that their most sacred time of year, when JC rose from
the dead, would not be named after the Goddess of fertility Oestre with
her symbols the egg and rabbit.


I don't see why not - it's about rebirth and all that.

What I don't get is why they call his execution day "Good" anything!

Cheers!
Rich


What I don't get is why us christians keep ranting that the jews killed
jesus and that it was a bad thing. After all, isn't it us christians
that are always explaining unfortunate events as god working in
mysterious ways. And how might history have been different if jesus
hadn't become a martyr through his death. He might not have gained the
power us christians gave him if he had just grown old and died a natural
death. Ultimately, if us christians are going to continue to rant that
the jews killed jesus, then the least we could do is be grateful;
without his death we have no martyr, no death for our sins, and no
resurrection. Woe be to me or to any other christian that believes god's
will was a bad thing.

Warren H. Davis wrote:

I don't believe, yet I'm forced to
take the day off with pay, like it or not.


I actually asked if I could exchange December 25th for Yom Kippur instead of
having to take a vacation day for the latter. I was quite willing to keep the
systems running.

Request denied.

What a great employer I have. If I was jewish I could do exactly what
you were denied. Still, a day off is ...

Warren H. Davis wrote:

I don't believe, yet I'm forced to
take the day off with pay, like it or not.


I actually asked if I could exchange December 25th for Yom Kippur instead of
having to take a vacation day for the latter. I was quite willing to keep the
systems running.

Request denied.

What a great employer I have. If I was jewish I could do exactly what
you were denied. Still, a day off is ...

"Diane James" ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ wrote in message
...
Would you ****heads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?



And to alt.genealogy, please.

Tricia

I read in sci.electronics.design that Diane James ^@^.^ wrote (in
) about 'Christmas vs "Holidays"',
on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:

Would you ****heads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?

Not unless you ask nicely. (;-)

It's very odd that the original post was sent to such diverse groups,
but subsequent attempts to restrict the distribution are practically
doomed to fail. It only needs one response to still include one of the
original irrelevant groups for the efforts of everyone who restricted
follow-ups to be negated.

Besides, who knows which groups want the articles? It's seriously off-
topic in all the groups it's posted to.

So that you can read this reasoned response, I've reinstated
rec.travel.cruises ONLY.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Diane James ^@^.^ wrote (in
) about 'Christmas vs "Holidays"',
on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:

Would you ****heads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?

Not unless you ask nicely. (;-)

It's very odd that the original post was sent to such diverse groups,
but subsequent attempts to restrict the distribution are practically
doomed to fail. It only needs one response to still include one of the
original irrelevant groups for the efforts of everyone who restricted
follow-ups to be negated.

Besides, who knows which groups want the articles? It's seriously off-
topic in all the groups it's posted to.

So that you can read this reasoned response, I've reinstated
rec.travel.cruises ONLY.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

I read in sci.electronics.design that Diane James ^@^.^ wrote (in
) about 'Christmas vs "Holidays"',
on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:
Would you ****heads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?

Abuse report sent. There is NO excuse for over 20 identical abusive
posts.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

I read in sci.electronics.design that Diane James ^@^.^ wrote (in
) about 'Christmas vs "Holidays"',
on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:
Would you ****heads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?

Abuse report sent. There is NO excuse for over 20 identical abusive
posts.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk