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Longer pub opening gets go-ahead

Ministers say relaxing laws will help prevent binge drinking
The government has beaten off a last-ditch attempt to prevent pubs
opening round-the-clock from next week.
A Conservative motion to cancel the part of the Licensing Act allowing
extended hours was defeated by 74 votes in the Commons.

Opponents say later closing times for England and Wales will lead to
increased anti-social behaviour.

But ministers say the plans, which come into effect on 24 November,
will encourage "grown-up" drinking habits.

'Potential problems'

The Licensing Act went through Parliament in 2003, but the Tory motion
would have delayed extended hours until at least the New Year.

Licensing minister James Purnell told BBC News existing laws, with an
11pm "curfew", had "patently failed" to stop binge drinking.

He added: "We think that having hours decided locally by local councils
is absolutely the right thing to do.

"If people want to have a quiet drink after going to the cinema or
getting home from work, there's nothing wrong with that."

Two Labour MPs, former ministers Frank Field and Kate Hoey, voted
against the government.

Earlier, shadow culture secretary Theresa May said that during the last
two years there had been more evidence from police, doctors, judges and
the general public of potential problems with the plan.

The Lib Dems backed the Tory motion, which was lost by 228 votes to
302.

Posters target drunk yobs

Party culture spokeswoman Jo Swinson said: "There's an increasing
feeling among the public that it's not the right course to take and
it's going to exacerbate the binge-drinking culture."

BBC political correspondent Jo Coburn said the vote had "never been in
any doubt", but that Conservatives had wanted to "highlight something
they feel is unpopular" with the public.

The Department for Culture, Media and Sport said only 700 of the
190,000 premises that could apply for 24-hour licences had done so.

But 75% had asked for an opening times extension of between one and
three hours.

Martin wrote:
On 15 Nov 2005 13:21:58 -0800, wrote:

Longer pub opening gets go-ahead

Ministers say relaxing laws will help prevent binge drinking
The government has beaten off a last-ditch attempt to prevent pubs
opening round-the-clock from next week.

Most pubs won't be opening around the clock next week.


--
Martin

but it will change, one of the great things about Belgium is having a
beer on the way to work

Martin wrote:

On 15 Nov 2005 13:21:58 -0800, wrote:

Longer pub opening gets go-ahead

Ministers say relaxing laws will help prevent binge drinking
The government has beaten off a last-ditch attempt to prevent pubs
opening round-the-clock from next week.

Most pubs won't be opening around the clock next week.

Hardly any of them applied for that license. The college where I teach
will have a 2am license for both of their bars, but the manager told me
they're unlikely to use it most nights, and will close up when things
get quiet. There's a pub a couple of minutes walk from me (which I've
never visited), and it will be open until 1am now.

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In article 1h637o0.xncg6k1cs6ylpN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com,
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

*From:* (chancellor of the duchy of
besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy)
*Date:* Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:31:13 +0000

Martin wrote:

On 15 Nov 2005 13:21:58 -0800, wrote:

Longer pub opening gets go-ahead

Ministers say relaxing laws will help prevent binge drinking
The government has beaten off a last-ditch attempt to prevent pubs
opening round-the-clock from next week.

Most pubs won't be opening around the clock next week.

Hardly any of them applied for that license. The college where I teach
will have a 2am license for both of their bars, but the manager told me
they're unlikely to use it most nights, and will close up when things
get quiet. There's a pub a couple of minutes walk from me (which I've
never visited), and it will be open until 1am now.

Round here the only difference is that they won't have to draw the
curtains at 11.

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The poster formerly known as .

Martin wrote:

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:31:13 +0000,
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy) wrote:
[]
Hardly any of them applied for that license. The college where I teach
will have a 2am license for both of their bars, but the manager told me
they're unlikely to use it most nights, and will close up when things
get quiet. There's a pub a couple of minutes walk from me (which I've
never visited), and it will be open until 1am now.

Wasn't the general idea to make this possible rather than to have 24
hour binge drinking?

Yes- absolutely.

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wrote:

In article 1h637o0.xncg6k1cs6ylpN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com,
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

*From:* (chancellor of the duchy of
besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy)
*Date:* Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:31:13 +0000
[]
Hardly any of them applied for that license. The college where I teach
will have a 2am license for both of their bars, but the manager told me
they're unlikely to use it most nights, and will close up when things
get quiet. There's a pub a couple of minutes walk from me (which I've
never visited), and it will be open until 1am now.

Round here the only difference is that they won't have to draw the
curtains at 11.

Sure, but it also means you'll be able to get _in_ the pub after 11!

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wrote in message
oups.com...
but it will change, one of the great things about Belgium is having a
beer on the way to work

Don't know about that but it'll be nice to be able to have a beer on the way
home from work when I finish at midnight....

--
Andy

Andy Pandy wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
but it will change, one of the great things about Belgium is having a
beer on the way to work

Don't know about that but it'll be nice to be able to have a beer on the way
home from work when I finish at midnight....

Until now, another advantage of train travel! They're not covered by
licensing laws and can serve alcohol whenever they want.

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wrote in message
oups.com...
Longer pub opening gets go-ahead

Ministers say relaxing laws will help prevent binge drinking
The government has beaten off a last-ditch attempt to prevent pubs
opening round-the-clock from next week.
A Conservative motion to cancel the part of the Licensing Act allowing
extended hours was defeated by 74 votes in the Commons.

[snip]

The Lib Dems backed the Tory motion, which was lost by 228 votes to
302.

I never thought I'd ever see the day when NuLab do something I agree with which
both the LibDems and Tories oppose....

--
Andy

"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy"
wrote in message
news:1h639ww.1glkmru7f0bn6N%this_address_is_for_sp ...
Don't know about that but it'll be nice to be able to have a beer on the way
home from work when I finish at midnight....

Until now, another advantage of train travel! They're not covered by
licensing laws and can serve alcohol whenever they want.

Not many serve a decent pint of real ale though....

Wasn't there some proposal mooted recently to ban alcohol on trains?

--
Andy