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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
JohnT writes:
You are quoting only negatives. Don't love and affection come into this too, or are those emotions which you consider superfluous and/or un-necessary? Love and affection are important, but they cannot compensate for incompetence. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
Dave Frightens Me writes:
And the benefit of this would be? A better and happier world for all of us. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:50:19 +0200, "NightRaven"
wrote: That's a fairy-tale, wealth and prosperity Always comes at the expense of someone else, otherwhise where would the wealth come from in the first place ? Through increased specialisation, if the bloke who's brilliant and making shoes can spend more time making shoes and less time breeding pigs, then there are more shoes than if everyone made their own. Wealth is not a zero-sum game. Jim. |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
Jim Ley wrote: On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:50:19 +0200, "NightRaven" wrote: That's a fairy-tale, wealth and prosperity Always comes at the expense of someone else, otherwhise where would the wealth come from in the first place ? Through increased specialisation, if the bloke who's brilliant and making shoes can spend more time making shoes and less time breeding pigs, then there are more shoes than if everyone made their own. Wealth is not a zero-sum game. Jim. on the stock market it is |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
I didn't want to be part oif this fray, but I felt that I had to make
this point: Every major famine that we have experienced over the past 200-odd years has been completely avoidable. In every case there were political reasons for the disaster. Biafra, Ethiopia (1970's and 1980's), Sudan (1980's and present), Ireland (1840's), North Korea (2004), Afghanistan (often), Zimbabwe (present), China (late 1950's), Vietnam (1945), India (often), Europe (WWII), etc. etc. etc. In every case, food was available nearby, but was witheld for political reasons. It's not a question of there being too many PEOPLE to feed, it's a question of having too many political opponents and pawns to feed. Marc - Johannesburg On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:16:41 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: Be patient; it's inevitable. Right now many populations live on a very jagged edge: a little bit too much drought, and they start dying. That's because there are too many of them. |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
Marc Lurie wrote: I didn't want to be part oif this fray, but I felt that I had to make this point: Every major famine that we have experienced over the past 200-odd years has been completely avoidable. In every case there were political reasons for the disaster. Biafra, Ethiopia (1970's and 1980's), Sudan (1980's and present), Ireland (1840's), North Korea (2004), Afghanistan (often), Zimbabwe (present), China (late 1950's), Vietnam (1945), India (often), Europe (WWII), etc. etc. etc. In every case, food was available nearby, but was witheld for political reasons. It's not a question of there being too many PEOPLE to feed, it's a question of having too many political opponents and pawns to feed. Marc - Johannesburg With less people there would be less conflict and more wildlife. (flora and fauna) More resources would be available and last longer. When conflict used to arise a tribe would move on to greener pastures. These days that is impossible without causing conflict, because somebody else is already living there. |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:01:45 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Dave Frightens Me writes: And the benefit of this would be? A better and happier world for all of us. Wouldn't giving us all a million dollars do that? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
Dave Frightens Me wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:01:45 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: Dave Frightens Me writes: And the benefit of this would be? A better and happier world for all of us. Wouldn't giving us all a million dollars do that? For Mixi? I take it you didn't follow the thread where he suggested that was a paltry sum. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
On 17 Jul 2006 03:46:35 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote: With less people there would be less conflict and more wildlife. (flora and fauna) More resources would be available and last longer. When conflict used to arise a tribe would move on to greener pastures. These days that is impossible without causing conflict, because somebody else is already living there. This is an extremely simplistic view. And while it may have held some merit at some stage, the fact of the matter is that people aren't nomadic any more. There have been no significant numbers of nomads anywhere on earth for the past two hundred years, so your point is completely moot. |
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Chirac warns of 'African flood'
Marc Lurie wrote: On 17 Jul 2006 03:46:35 -0700, "Hooverphonic" wrote: With less people there would be less conflict and more wildlife. (flora and fauna) More resources would be available and last longer. When conflict used to arise a tribe would move on to greener pastures. These days that is impossible without causing conflict, because somebody else is already living there. This is an extremely simplistic view. And while it may have held some merit at some stage, the fact of the matter is that people aren't nomadic any more. There have been no significant numbers of nomads anywhere on earth for the past two hundred years, so your point is completely moot. hence use of *past* tense ! the future is that is growing populations in the same place, i.e.more competition for a dwindling amount of resources. the message is reduce the population. |
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