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Old September 18th, 2003, 04:04 AM
Gerry Scott-Moore
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In article , John W.
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Just out of curiosity, how many children do you have? From what
you've written it sounds like the answer is 'none'.


Why, because I never addressed children? Right you are.

Either that or you have plenty of money, because not paying for seat
tickets for children is a VERY well accepted practice.


I never once spoke to the issue of NOT buying tickets for children. My
point was strictly about "bookending" seats. We do this when we can in
order to more comfortably sleep through long flights.

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Old September 18th, 2003, 06:25 PM
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"John W." wrote in message
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PTRAVEL wrote:
"John W." wrote in message
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Finally, on the plan
MAKE SURE you DO NOT buy a seat for your child (unless money isn't an
issue). You and your husband need to reserve an aisle and window seat;
unless the plane is just packed the middle seat probably won't be
booked, especially if you get to the airport early. We've never had an
issue, and while our child was under the required 'seat reservation' age
we flew a dozen or more times.



What horrible (and selfish) advice. Most flights run full these days.

What
you propose will, almost certainly, result in some poor ******* being

stuck
between you and your wife, while you shuttle your child back-and-forth

to
hold on your laps. Subjecting someone to that on a short flight would

be
simply rude. On a long-haul, it's entirely unacceptable.

Why? I know LOT'S of people (with or without kids) that follow this very
common, very acceptable practice. Do you want to sit between two people
on a plane if you have a choice? Of course not. And if you object, then
the couple will always give you the seat of your choice so they can sit
next to each other.


And that's the whole point -- if it's just a couple, then it's solely a
question of who sits where. When a couple plays this game with an infant,
there are four people jockeying for three seats.


And while I've found flights to be "more" full than
in the past, it's not across the board and not 'packed' any more than in
the past.

If you insist on taking infants on airplanes, buy a seat for them and

bring
an approved car seat. Your child (and everyone else) will be more
comfortable and safer. Don't assume, for a minute, that the airline

will
simply make room for you because you have brought a baby along.

You obviously don't have children, and perhaps your advice would be best
posted when you DO. My son rarely stayed in his seat; on a trans-pacific
flight in particular he would sleep an hour or so around take off and
did likewise around landing (that was planned, something a non-parent
wouldn't understand), but otherwise stayed awake. Do you expect a 1 or 2
year old child to seat peacefully in their seat for eight or ten hours?
Grown adults can't do this, and a child certainly can't. Thankfully I've
been surrounded by folks a bit more understanding than yourself on these
issues, which is good because I'm not rich either.

John W.



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Old September 18th, 2003, 06:27 PM
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"John W." wrote in message
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PTRAVEL wrote:
"Gerry Scott-Moore" wrote in message
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Just do what you project would be good for others, even if
inapplicable. It's the worriers way!



No, it's the considerate person's way. Sorry you don't understand that.

Just out of curiosity, how many children do you have? From what you've
written it sounds like the answer is 'none'.


Right.

Either that or you have
plenty of money,


And that may be related to not having any children.

because not paying for seat tickets for children is a
VERY well accepted practice.


Accepted by whom? The airlines permit lap children under the age of 2.
Though it's not the safest thing in the world for the kids, it's not too
unbearable for short hops. For long hauls, being a stranger seated next to
a parent with a lap child is miserable.


John W.



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Old September 18th, 2003, 08:45 PM
Gerry Scott-Moore
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In article , PTRAVEL
wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how many children do you have? From what
you've written it sounds like the answer is 'none'.


Right.

Either that or you have plenty of money,


And that may be related to not having any children.


You guys want to open another topic to ruminate on my family?

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Old September 18th, 2003, 08:46 PM
Gerry Scott-Moore
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In article , PTRAVEL
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Accepted by whom? The airlines permit lap children under the age of 2.
Though it's not the safest thing in the world for the kids, it's not too
unbearable for short hops. For long hauls, being a stranger seated next to
a parent with a lap child is miserable.


If inflicted misery is the key then perhaps fat folks and large folk
and people with gas problems should be considerate and take a bus, no?

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Old September 18th, 2003, 09:16 PM
Spehro Pefhany
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:45:32 -0700, the renowned Gerry Scott-Moore
wrote:

In article , PTRAVEL
wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how many children do you have? From what
you've written it sounds like the answer is 'none'.


Right.

Either that or you have plenty of money,


And that may be related to not having any children.


You guys want to open another topic to ruminate on my family?


Child-hating travellers should eventually be eliminated from the gene
pool. Your DNA will hit a cul-de-sac. ;-)

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Old September 18th, 2003, 10:03 PM
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"Gerry Scott-Moore" wrote in message
d...
In article , PTRAVEL
wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how many children do you have? From what
you've written it sounds like the answer is 'none'.


Right.

Either that or you have plenty of money,


And that may be related to not having any children.


You guys want to open another topic to ruminate on my family?


Neither. I'm not the one who inquired about my family status or income.



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