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"Ender" wrote in message
news:908Uc.19110$X12.15444@edtnps84... Mike wrote: Air marshals cover only a few flights Federal air marshals protect less than 5 percent of daily U.S. flights, and the numbers are declining, despite assurances by the federal government that most planes would be protected, according to estimates provided by marshals, pilots and a retired airline executive. at http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...1237-9757r.htm True or not, it wouldn't be a problem if everyone believed that air marshals were on every flight. I wonder how effective they would actually be in a real terrorist situation. Would any flight have more than one air Marshall, if not, a two prong attack would be effective. You only need to have 7-8 bad guys on a plane. You can preposition weapons in an airport in pieces within a month. dennis dennis |
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Ender wrote:
Mike wrote: Federal air marshals protect less than 5 percent of daily U.S. True or not, it wouldn't be a problem if everyone believed that air marshals were on every flight. What's even more logical is this: After 9/11, the popular impression that it's best to cooperate with hijackers was thrown out the window. What most people now believe (I'm sure) is that it's best to combat hijackers immediately - and not be just a plane-load of sheep. What the US Gov't and FAA SHOULD have done after 9/11 is to add the following line to the pre-recorded message played on all commercial flights prior to take-off: "You may be called upon by a member of the crew or fellow passengers to assist them in disarming or detaining anyone threatening the safety of this aircraft." That single innocuous statement alone is worth more than a thousand air-marshalls. It turns every flight into a plane full of air marshalls. No self-respecting hijacker, upon hearing such a message on test-flight after test-flight, would ever consider a hi-jacking al-la 9/11 again. Instead we have cowards at the White-house and FAA who let the opportunity fade to slip a statement like that into the generic pre-flight announcements. While on the same topic - Has there been any sort of FAA circular or white-paper (or communication to airlines) regarding any sort of policy change for dealing with hijackers in flight? Or have they been negligently silent on the subject? |
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Ender wrote:
Mike wrote: Federal air marshals protect less than 5 percent of daily U.S. True or not, it wouldn't be a problem if everyone believed that air marshals were on every flight. What's even more logical is this: After 9/11, the popular impression that it's best to cooperate with hijackers was thrown out the window. What most people now believe (I'm sure) is that it's best to combat hijackers immediately - and not be just a plane-load of sheep. What the US Gov't and FAA SHOULD have done after 9/11 is to add the following line to the pre-recorded message played on all commercial flights prior to take-off: "You may be called upon by a member of the crew or fellow passengers to assist them in disarming or detaining anyone threatening the safety of this aircraft." That single innocuous statement alone is worth more than a thousand air-marshalls. It turns every flight into a plane full of air marshalls. No self-respecting hijacker, upon hearing such a message on test-flight after test-flight, would ever consider a hi-jacking al-la 9/11 again. Instead we have cowards at the White-house and FAA who let the opportunity fade to slip a statement like that into the generic pre-flight announcements. While on the same topic - Has there been any sort of FAA circular or white-paper (or communication to airlines) regarding any sort of policy change for dealing with hijackers in flight? Or have they been negligently silent on the subject? |
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mo
Federal agents added to flights Homeland Security Undersecretary Asa Hutchinson yesterday told senators that Secret Service agents and other armed federal officials are being used to bolster the Federal Air Marshal Service's efforts to guard airplanes from terrorist attacks. at http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...1446-4920r.htm |
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Federal agents added to flights Homeland Security Undersecretary Asa Hutchinson yesterday told senators that Secret Service agents and other armed federal officials are being used to bolster the Federal Air Marshal Service's efforts to guard airplanes from terrorist attacks. at http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...1446-4920r.htm |
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ou only need to have 7-8 bad guys on a plane.
So which are the flights not to go on? I'm planning a trip between the UK and the US in a few weeks and I'm getting frightened of taking the trip. Zoe |
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ou only need to have 7-8 bad guys on a plane.
So which are the flights not to go on? I'm planning a trip between the UK and the US in a few weeks and I'm getting frightened of taking the trip. Zoe |
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"Zoeliz" wrote in message ... ou only need to have 7-8 bad guys on a plane. So which are the flights not to go on? I'm planning a trip between the UK and the US in a few weeks and I'm getting frightened of taking the trip. Zoe Why? Travelling by air, even taking into account the fact that occasionally really nasty things happen, is 99.99 per cent safe. JohnT |
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"Zoeliz" wrote in message ... ou only need to have 7-8 bad guys on a plane. So which are the flights not to go on? I'm planning a trip between the UK and the US in a few weeks and I'm getting frightened of taking the trip. Zoe Why? Travelling by air, even taking into account the fact that occasionally really nasty things happen, is 99.99 per cent safe. JohnT |
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"JohnT" wrote in message ... Why? Travelling by air, even taking into account the fact that occasionally really nasty things happen, is 99.99 per cent safe. Very few people would make air trips if flying were that unsafe. There would be a crash about once a day in the USA. Guesstimate that each of the top 25 airports in the USA have an average of 300 departures per day (some have much more). That makes vaguely 7500 departures per day, just counting the major airports. JohnT threw out the number of one problem per ten thousand flights. That would mean roughly one airliner crash per day in the USA. There have been about 1000 days since "9/11". IIRC, it has been a number of years since a mainline US airliner crash. Even on the disastrous day of 9/11, if you had a scheduled departure from any US airport chosen at random between 7 and 10 am, the chance of being on one of the crashed airliners was probably not more than one in a thousand - and that is the ONLY "bad" day on record. The historical incidence of crashes is around one in a million takeoffs for reputable airlines, not one in ten thousand. Is your likelihood of dying tomorrow from other causes as low as one in a million? People only live about 25,000 - 30,000 days. |
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