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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "Ticket Mills"
Caveat lecter: This are my experiences and opinions: As they say,
"been there, done that." The traffic police seem to have enormous discretion, so be courteous and subservient if they flash their light for you to pull over on the side or shoulder. The speed laws are enforced arbitrarily: Few cars actually seem to me to to go as slow as 55 mph, but that's seemingly the "default" highway speed limit of many places. (I'm not kidding.) The speed limits vary from approximately 25 mph to 70 miles per hour. There is a minimum speed of approx 45 mph on the interstate highways. The law apparently is: if a police car is on the side or shoulder, try to go by it in the inside lane, though of course look first in mirrors et cetera and make sure another vehicle is not "hiding" in the "blind spot." Since I've been to Italy, I hereaby concede some nations do need damneable strict laws. http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/18/hig...xes=popstories |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "Ticket Mills"
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:58:51 -0800 (PST), Robert Cohen
wrote: Caveat lecter: This are my experiences and opinions: As they say, "been there, done that." The traffic police seem to have enormous discretion, so be courteous and subservient if they flash their light for you to pull over on the side or shoulder. The speed laws are enforced arbitrarily: Few cars actually seem to me to to go as slow as 55 mph, but that's seemingly the "default" highway speed limit of many places. (I'm not kidding.) There aren't many open, rural highways with only a 55 mph speed limit these days. Urban or suburban highways are a different story. The speed limits vary from approximately 25 mph to 70 miles per hour. They vary from 15 mph in school zones to 75 mph on Arizona freeways. I was under the impression one of the states had an 80 mph limit, but I could be wrong. In many states the police are more interested in a a smooth flow of traffic rather than an absolute speed limit. I see no other way to explain what seems to be an average 85 mph cruise speed on I-5 in California's San Joauquin Valley. There is a minimum speed of approx 45 mph on the interstate highways. Minimum speeds, like maximum speeds, vary from state to state. The law apparently is: if a police car is on the side or shoulder, try to go by it in the inside lane, though of course look first in mirrors et cetera and make sure another vehicle is not "hiding" in the "blind spot." Huh? -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "Ticket Mills"
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:03:00 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
In many states the police are more interested in a a smooth flow of traffic rather than an absolute speed limit. I see no other way to explain what seems to be an average 85 mph cruise speed on I-5 in California's San Joauquin Valley. This is to compensate for the average 5 mph you get to go on I-5 in the LA area, creating an average speed overall of 25 mph. |
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On Dec 29, 3:03*pm, Hatunen wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:58:51 -0800 (PST), Robert Cohen wrote: Caveat lecter: This are my experiences and opinions: As they say, "been there, done that." The traffic police seem to have enormous discretion, so be courteous and *subservient if they flash their light for you to pull over on the side or shoulder. The speed laws are enforced arbitrarily: Few cars actually seem to me to to go as slow as *55 mph, but that's seemingly the "default" highway speed limit of many places. (I'm not kidding.) There aren't many open, rural highways with only a 55 mph speed limit these days. Urban or suburban highways are a different story. The speed limits *vary from approximately 25 mph *to 70 miles per hour. They vary from 15 mph in school zones to 75 mph on Arizona freeways. I was under the impression one of the states had an 80 mph limit, but I could be wrong. In many states the police are more interested in a a smooth flow of traffic rather than an absolute speed limit. I see no other way to explain what seems to be an average 85 mph cruise speed on I-5 in California's San Joauquin Valley. There is a minimum speed of approx 45 mph on the interstate highways. Minimum speeds, like maximum speeds, vary from state to state. The law apparently is: if a police car is on the side or shoulder, try to go by it in the inside lane, though of course look first in mirrors et cetera and make sure another vehicle is not "hiding" in the "blind spot." Huh? -- * ************** DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * ** * * * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * * * * * ** My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * my daughter actually got a ticket/fine of a couple hundred (georgia) for passing in the outside lane a police car that was stopped on the shoulder (presumably ticketing another one) she went to court, and the sob judge wasn't listening to "i didn't know" |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "Ticket Mills"
"Robert Cohen" wrote in message ... On Dec 29, 3:03 pm, Hatunen wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:58:51 -0800 (PST), Robert Cohen wrote: Caveat lecter: This are my experiences and opinions: As they say, "been there, done that." The traffic police seem to have enormous discretion, so be courteous and subservient if they flash their light for you to pull over on the side or shoulder. The speed laws are enforced arbitrarily: Few cars actually seem to me to to go as slow as 55 mph, but that's seemingly the "default" highway speed limit of many places. (I'm not kidding.) There aren't many open, rural highways with only a 55 mph speed limit these days. Urban or suburban highways are a different story. The speed limits vary from approximately 25 mph to 70 miles per hour. They vary from 15 mph in school zones to 75 mph on Arizona freeways. I was under the impression one of the states had an 80 mph limit, but I could be wrong. In many states the police are more interested in a a smooth flow of traffic rather than an absolute speed limit. I see no other way to explain what seems to be an average 85 mph cruise speed on I-5 in California's San Joauquin Valley. There is a minimum speed of approx 45 mph on the interstate highways. Minimum speeds, like maximum speeds, vary from state to state. The law apparently is: if a police car is on the side or shoulder, try to go by it in the inside lane, though of course look first in mirrors et cetera and make sure another vehicle is not "hiding" in the "blind spot." Huh? -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * my daughter actually got a ticket/fine of a couple hundred (georgia) for passing in the outside lane a police car that was stopped on the shoulder (presumably ticketing another one) she went to court, and the sob judge wasn't listening to "i didn't know" Many states have a "move over" law in effect now with many more to come. In some states it is not only to clear the lane next to the police vehicle but for any emergency vehicle, including fire and ambulance vehicles. If you can't move over safely, most of the laws require you to slow down while passing the emergency vehicle. Move-Over-Law: Georgia Code, Title 40-6-16 Move over in Florida "When an authorized emergency vehicle making use of any visual signals is parked or a wrecker displaying" Title XXIII, Chapter 316.126 South Dakota Codified Laws 32-31-6.1 Tennessee T.C.A. 55-8-132 North Carolina G.S. 20-157 (f). For more see he http://people.smu.edu/acambre/move_over_laws.asp |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "TicketMills"
Hatunen wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:58:51 -0800 (PST), Robert Cohen wrote: snip The law apparently is: if a police car is on the side or shoulder, try to go by it in the inside lane, though of course look first in mirrors et cetera and make sure another vehicle is not "hiding" in the "blind spot." Huh? For most of my 40 years or so of driving, I've been blissfully unaware of this law. I find it counter-intuitive, since, as Robert says, changing lanes has its own hazards. Almost anyone approaching an emergency vehicle will stay alert and observe the speed limit, and if you move the safe drivers out of the right lane, you're leaving the lane open for those without a clue. Some states require drivers who don't have room to change lanes to slow way down, which can lead to an accident if someone else is following too closely. But it's the law in enough states so that it probably makes sense to assume it's the law everywhere and drive accordingly. Louis |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "TicketMills"
Hatunen wrote:
The law apparently is: if a police car is on the side or shoulder, try to go by it in the inside lane, though of course look first in mirrors et cetera and make sure another vehicle is not "hiding" in the "blind spot." Huh? Some states have laws that state you are supposed to move into a lane away from the shoulder if there is a emergency vehicle on the shoulder. |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "TicketMills"
John Kulp wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:03:00 -0700, Hatunen wrote: In many states the police are more interested in a a smooth flow of traffic rather than an absolute speed limit. I see no other way to explain what seems to be an average 85 mph cruise speed on I-5 in California's San Joauquin Valley. This is to compensate for the average 5 mph you get to go on I-5 in the LA area, creating an average speed overall of 25 mph. That story I've heard before I used to drive up I-5 a lot, usually early in the morning. On one trip, I wanted to see if I could cover a mile in 30 seconds or less. I was a bit younger and driving an American muscle car. After several attempts abated due to traffic, I finally got one in. It should be noted that I did not complete this task until I had both lanes clear. I would not attempt to pass an American driver doing 120 MPH. That, , would be foolish. |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "TicketMills"
Robert Cohen wrote:
my daughter actually got a ticket/fine of a couple hundred (georgia) for passing in the outside lane a police car that was stopped on the shoulder (presumably ticketing another one) she went to court, and the sob judge wasn't listening to "i didn't know" Ignorance of the law is no excuse. How does this make the judge an SOB? Are they police suppose to give warning tickets to everyone who claimsn not to know the law? |
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Tourists Driving In U.S. Ought To Beware of Tres Cher "TicketMills"
Hatunen wrote:
Radar jammers are illegal. http://www.laserveil.com/radar/jammers/ Chilly claims to use one in France, and the article quoted doesn't seem to deal with France. |
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