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RTCReferee wrote: Howie wrote: It's really nice to read a post from an ex-smoker who doesn't buy into the ridiculous hyperbole of the powerful anti-smoking lobby. You da man, Bob. Were you perhaps so thrilled to read his stance on smoking that you didn't notice the following posted by Reef Fish: Yes, as a matter of fact, I was; and I really didn't read past the "Bo with BS" line. Now that I have read this, I don't know what to think? Obviously, I don't endorse any association between race and body odor. If this is what the OP was doing, then I retract my unequivocal accolade. Howie " Aren't you confusing BO with BS? Are you now advocating the banning of all those races of folks who tend to have strong Body Odor compared to folks of other races? ...all * THOSE * races have strong body odor? (P.S. Please don't anyone bother making a joke like "I thought he meant white...ha ha ha." I can already see it coming.) |
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TCS wrote in
: No thank you. I find the smell of burning tobacco as repulsive as dog ****. I can understand this. Being in a bar with people smoking is as nasty as walking around with a crowd of people and there being dog**** being stepped in. I think you'll find that the real reason for the boring people was that you accidentaly took a seniors cruise. This is absolutely false. The average age based on my observations was around 30-40 years old. Everyone on the ship stated that they were going bankrupt due to the fact that every cruise was the same. Why is it that Carnival is phasing out it's only non-smoking ship? They talked (the crew) extensively about it. They even had ship presentations about it. They have done extensive studies, and their findings were that smokers have a compulsive habit. People with compulsive habits tend to have other compulsive habits such as eating and drinking. In turn, people with compulsive habits such as alcohol consumption, tend to revel more than those who don't. I was fascinated by what I saw, as I had a large sample size (2200 people), made up of a demographic that under almost any other circumstance would be a very active group. And yes, it is too bad that a disgusting habit like smoking can have such an impact on how people enjoy themselves. |
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Cozit/Liz wrote in
: Must be nice to have a choice in the matter. Some of us don't. Smoke and me would equal a me not breathing easily fairly quickly... and I *really* don't want to know just *how* bad that can get now... -Liz (truly allergic to the point of it being the only thing that induces asthma in me) This is a good point that many who smoke fail to realize. Whereas second hand smoke only is annoying to me, it can be very detrimental to others. It really comes down to selfishness. I want to smoke, and I have to smoke right here because it is my right. I don't care about the rights of others, even if it makes that person standing over there go into an asthma attack, and have to go to the hospital. Screw them, as I have the right to smoke. If I smoked (and am so glad that I never started!) I would only do it outside, and away from those who don't. Then again, I guess I care about people other than myself... |
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Howie wrote in message ...
RTCReferee wrote: Howie wrote: It's really nice to read a post from an ex-smoker who doesn't buy into the ridiculous hyperbole of the powerful anti-smoking lobby. You da man, Bob. Were you perhaps so thrilled to read his stance on smoking that you didn't notice the following posted by Reef Fish: Yes, as a matter of fact, I was; and I really didn't read past the "Bo with BS" line. That was my sarcastic remark to Cygne 2003's assertion: Cyghe The smoker has in common with the one who doesn't wash himself Cygne the LACK OF HYGIENE. Now the one who doesn't wash himself is, Cygne in most of the cases, not concient that he hurts, while the Cygne smoker knows that he hurts. RF Aren't you confusing BO with BS? Now that I have read this, I don't know what to think? Obviously, I don't endorse any association between race and body odor. The BO/race association remark was a mere personal observation, without any racist implication nor intent. Never been accused of being a racist in any context anywhere -- until this implicated accusation here. My thousands of posts retrievable via groups.google would attest to the non-racist fact! If this is what the OP was doing, then I retract my unequivocal accolade. Howie Don't know what you meant by "the OP", but I don't make any post of mine for accolade or lemonage. So it matters not what you do. Just want to clarify the apparent libelous accusation, probably by an anti-smoking zealot because what I posted about SMOKING. -- Bob. " Aren't you confusing BO with BS? Are you now advocating the banning of all those races of folks who tend to have strong Body Odor compared to folks of other races? ...all * THOSE * races have strong body odor? (P.S. Please don't anyone bother making a joke like "I thought he meant white...ha ha ha." I can already see it coming.) |
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chip3130 wrote: And yes, it is too bad that a disgusting habit like smoking can have such an impact on how people enjoy themselves. You could be drawing the wrong conclusion here. Eileen |
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chip3130 wrote: This is a good point that many who smoke fail to realize. Whereas second hand smoke only is annoying to me, it can be very detrimental to others. It really comes down to selfishness. I want to smoke, and I have to smoke right here because it is my right. I don't care about the rights of others, even if it makes that person standing over there go into an asthma attack, and have to go to the hospital. Screw them, as I have the right to smoke. You have the right to wear cologne, have a pet, grow green stuff and lots of other things people to which there are plenty of allergic people. Life is SO simple. Eileen |
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Howie wrote:
RTCReferee wrote: Howie wrote: It's really nice to read a post from an ex-smoker who doesn't buy into the ridiculous hyperbole of the powerful anti-smoking lobby. You da man, Bob. Were you perhaps so thrilled to read his stance on smoking that you didn't notice the following posted by Reef Fish: Yes, as a matter of fact, I was; and I really didn't read past the "Bo with BS" line. Now that I have read this, I don't know what to think? Obviously, I don't endorse any association between race and body odor. If this is what the OP was doing, then I retract my unequivocal accolade. Thanks, Howie. I can understand how it happened that you overlooked this. :-) Now I'd just like to say "scram" to the scam-artist who keeps posting the ridiculous "link" regarding places with non-smoking restaurants in every place under the sun. (I'm pretty sure we could make up a name of a non-existent town and the person would provide a "link" to all the restaurants there where smoking is not permitted.) |
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 08:33:23 -0500, TCS
wrote: Sounds like another liberal activists. Get out the violins. No, sounds like somebody who doesn't like foul, disgusting, cancerous air. And you sound like a idiotic, paranoid, conservative dittohead who blames "the liberals" for anybody who disagrees with you. I'm just curious. To my knowledge, air treatment is pretty advanced these days. Wouldn't it be possible to have a very good air con/ cleaner/ purifying system running in bars that would be acceptable to most? |
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In article , chip3130
wrote: Having been on numerous ships, I am used to seeing hundreds of people in the bars and nightclubs until 4am- not one or two people (if that) like on the Paradise. Ask around, I have seen posts from at least 20 different people stating over the life of the non-smoking ship, they saw the exact same. Yet I have never seen one post like this from any other ship. Sadly, I have been on "smoking allowed" ships where the bars and nightclub were dead after 10:00 pm. -- Charles |
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