Taking off shoes at the airport

"Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message
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"Miss L. Toe" wrote:

"Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message
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What a weird idea: enjoying an airport experience.


I enjoy airports, and Milano, what does that make me ?

Do you have a titanium plate in your head?


Do I have a head ?

"nitram" wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:54:58 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
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"Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message
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Rita wrote:

I think it is rather funny, myself. I flew recently and decided the
vision of everyone removing shoes, jackets, belts, etc. was
rather entertaining. Passengers now have the program down
pat and begin divesting as they approach the scanner.
People who make a fuss only impede the others who take a
more sanguine approach. But there is always the one who
makes a fuss and that is part of the fun as well.

What a weird idea: enjoying an airport experience.


I enjoy airports, and Milano, what does that make me ?

a)sad
b) Billion Dollar Woman
c) young
d) Jungle Jane
;-)

c) - Flattery will get you nowhere.

And I rather enjoy watching someone stamping feet and
making a scene.

That sort of thing makes me want to philosophise.


Please do that sort of thing in private.

You can refuse to do it, but they might refuse to let you fly.

"Gregory Morrow"
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Donna Evleth wrote:

From: (eric h)
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 05:43:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Taking off shoes at the airport

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Binyamin Dissen wrote:


They did send my wallet thru the x-ray and I was quite vocal about
them
needing to keep an eye on it (which would cause other passengers to
keep an
eye on the TSA) - until they returned it to me.

EWR xrayed my wallet too. I guess they must think it serves a useful
purpose.


I don't understand why everyone is so upset about taking off shoes at
airports. Can anyone explain?

Donna Evleth

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"Wake up, everybody."--McFadden/Whitehead/Carstarphen



For me it is a combination of absurd rules applied in a rigid manner
with an imagination for the quality of wild life present in the walking
surface. Those places are filthy.


It's an indignation...and something I refuse to do.

--
Best
Greg

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Miss L. Toe typed:

"nitram" wrote in message
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Titanium is not detected either.


Actually it now is by certain scanners

Actually it isn't in reality. I have a large piece in my leg
and it
has yet to be detected by a scanner.


Actually it is in reality, I have a large piece in my body and
it
sometimes gets detected.


I know nothing about this, and can't speak with any certainty,
but I have a possible explanation for your two different
experiences.

What we call "titanium" (or aluminum or steel, etc.) is not the
pure metal itself, but an alloy containing it and other metals.
And there are several different alloys that go by the same name.
So it's possible that the two different pieces of titanium you
each have in your bodies are two different alloys, containing
different (or different amounts of) other metals. Depending on
what else is in the alloy and how much of it, it may or may not
be detected.

--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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Miss L. Toe typed:

"nitram" wrote in message
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Titanium is not detected either.


Actually it now is by certain scanners

Actually it isn't in reality. I have a large piece in my leg
and it
has yet to be detected by a scanner.


Actually it is in reality, I have a large piece in my body and
it
sometimes gets detected.


I know nothing about this, and can't speak with any certainty,
but I have a possible explanation for your two different
experiences.

What we call "titanium" (or aluminum or steel, etc.) is not the
pure metal itself, but an alloy containing it and other metals.
And there are several different alloys that go by the same name.
So it's possible that the two different pieces of titanium you
each have in your bodies are two different alloys, containing
different (or different amounts of) other metals. Depending on
what else is in the alloy and how much of it, it may or may not
be detected.


But that wouldn't explain why for many years it wasn't detected, and
recently it has been detected in some places.

"nitram" wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:46:13 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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In eenews.net,
Miss L. Toe typed:

"nitram" wrote in message
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Titanium is not detected either.


Actually it now is by certain scanners

Actually it isn't in reality. I have a large piece in my leg
and it
has yet to be detected by a scanner.


Actually it is in reality, I have a large piece in my body and
it
sometimes gets detected.


I know nothing about this, and can't speak with any certainty,
but I have a possible explanation for your two different
experiences.

What we call "titanium" (or aluminum or steel, etc.) is not the
pure metal itself, but an alloy containing it and other metals.
And there are several different alloys that go by the same name.
So it's possible that the two different pieces of titanium you
each have in your bodies are two different alloys, containing
different (or different amounts of) other metals. Depending on
what else is in the alloy and how much of it, it may or may not
be detected.


But that wouldn't explain why for many years it wasn't detected, and
recently it has been detected in some places.

When I pointed out to a guy at Zurich airport with a security wand
that I had just been through a metal detector gate and he had just
scanned me and that neither his wand nor the gate detected a large
piece of titanium concealed within my person, initially he didn't
believe me and then when he did he thought his wand was defective. He
called his boss, who tried to detect the titanium with his wand.
Neither knew that titanium wasn't detected, although they did know at
other airports.


And I have experienced airports where the wand DID pick up the Titanium,
maybe you should tell the guys at Zurich to buy better wands.

From: (chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
th' barn and prestwich tesco)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:10:32 +0100
Subject: Taking off shoes at the airport

What happens when you refuse? I agree it's a minor convenience, but I
get irritated more by the occasional rude attitude of the security
staff. Being 'asked politely' goes a long way in my book. CDG has
particularly insufferable staff IME.

Most particularly insufferable I ever saw was in Boston.

Donna Evleth

Stupid blahblah

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
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On 31/05/05 10:13, in article , "Patrick
Wallace" wrote:

Indignation is an obvious step in the process for refusing to do it,
but it isn't an explanation. Indignity might have been an explanation,
but what's the indignity? Unless, of course. you've got holes in your
socks, and even that's trivial compared with the indignity of being
blown to kingdom come.

PJW

On Tue, 31 May 2005 03:24:14 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net wrote:


It's an indignation...and something I refuse to do.



We got used to it visiting prisons in France. However, if your shoes
don't ring the prison guards don't insist on looking at your shoes.
It turns out that "deck shoes", the kind used on sails boats, don't have
metal supports and don't ring.

For planes it is different, since Reid carried explosives in a hollowed
out heal, or something like that.

Earl

Well we dont care

"Donna Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
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From: (chancellor of the duchy of
besses o'
th' barn and prestwich tesco)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:10:32 +0100
Subject: Taking off shoes at the airport

What happens when you refuse? I agree it's a minor convenience, but I
get irritated more by the occasional rude attitude of the security
staff. Being 'asked politely' goes a long way in my book. CDG has
particularly insufferable staff IME.

Most particularly insufferable I ever saw was in Boston.

Donna Evleth