La Santé Prison in Paris

If you have never seen La Santé it is down a couple of blocks from Denfert-
Rochereau on the Blvd Arago. On the Blvd, in front of the prison you
will find the last surviving ****oir in Paris. The wall is continuous
except on one side there are the gates one passes through to visit.
Sometimes people will stand outside the walls and yell at people
they know. Visits are short, 30 minutes, once a week. La Santé
is exceptional in having a VIPs section for people too high
up on the social ladder to share shells with those lower down.

La Santé is older than the Fresne Prison which south of town in the
town of the same name. They have somewhat the same outside appearance.

La Sante is referred to as being "vétuste", a wreck, rotten and falling
apart.

Currently French prisons are overcrowded with nearly 60,000 prisoner
up from 50,000 several years ago. Some are really wrecks and they
are going to close a portion it for travaux.

One feature of the old prisons is that their heating systems
don't work well or at all. So the prisoners spend their winters
in bed, wearing everything they can.

Photos can be seen if you go to google images and santé prison photos

http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr...n&ie=UTF-8&sa=
N&tab=ni

Some of the photos don't look to bad. But if they don't show chipping paint
etc, they aren't real!

*****

Une partie de la prison de la santé fermée par précaution début 2006

PARIS (AP) -- "Par mesure de précaution", l'administration pénitentiaire a
décidé de procéder au cours des premiers mois de l'année 2006 à la fermeture
des blocs B et C de la maison d'arrêt de la Santé de Paris, qui doit faire
l'objet d'importantes rénovations à partir de 2008, a-t-on appris jeudi
auprès de l'administration pénitentiaire.

En janvier prochain, se tiendront les réunions des groupes de travail qui
doivent envisager les modalités de fermeture, a-t-on indiqué de même source.
Environ 400 détenus seront concernés par cette fermeture de la partie haute
de la prison, construite en 1867.

Avant de procéder à une évacuation, il faudra consulter les autorités
judiciaires, car si beaucoup de places pourront être libérées par les
remises en liberté successives, certains détenus devront être transférés
dans d'autres établissements et il faudra consulter leurs dossiers, selon
l'administration pénitentiaire.

L'administration dément que cette fermeture des blocs B et C soit une
"mesure d'urgence", comme l'a indiqué le journal "Le Monde" dans son édition
datée de vendredi. "Les travaux sont programmés depuis 2002 et c'est une
mesure de précaution de fermer le quartier haut", insiste-t-on.
Reste que l'état d'insalubrité et de vétusté de la prison, qui accueillait
au 1er décembre 1.250 détenus pour 1.204 places, est de notoriété publique
depuis le livre de son ancien médecin chef, Véronique Vasseur, paru en
janvier 2000.

Selon "Le Monde", "récemment, des dalles de béton sont tombées des plafonds.
Plâtres et peintures se décollent. Les rats prolifèrent"... AP

Earl Evleth wrote:

[]
Currently French prisons are overcrowded with nearly 60,000 prisoner
up from 50,000 several years ago. Some are really wrecks and they
are going to close a portion it for travaux.

One feature of the old prisons is that their heating systems
don't work well or at all. So the prisoners spend their winters
in bed, wearing everything they can.

I don't know if they do this in France, but at some of the prisons in
the UK, the prisoners like to throw their **** at the guards. Lovely...


--
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org

"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
...
If you have never seen La Santé it is down a couple of blocks from
Denfert-
Rochereau on the Blvd Arago. [MASSIVE SNIP]

I don't in any way condone people impersonating Mr Evleth, but he does tend
to bring it on himself by posting rubbish such as this.

JohnT

On 24/12/05 14:24, in article
1h82t7e.1f1gnuu1pwxjpzN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com, "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
offy" wrote:

I don't know if they do this in France, but at some of the prisons in
the UK, the prisoners like to throw their **** at the guards. Lovely...


Not widely practiced in France that I know of. The major problems are
fires. When our friend was at Clairvaux, which is one of the higher
security prisons in France, one fire, set by prisoners, destroyed
half the prisoner space. Another destroyed the shoe shop that our
friend worked in. These are usually set by trouble makers.

The throwing of ****-urine combinations was done by prisoners here in
the hole. In the US this is done by prisoners in Supermax facilities
where there are virtually no privileges, so punishment can not
be done using the punishment and reward system. Death row
in Florence Arizona is supermax, the only punishment is to
cut the electricity.

http://www.metaphor.dk/guillotine/Pages/Guillot.html

Time to revamp French society again...? What's old is new...

Tim K

"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
...
....
Currently French prisons are overcrowded with nearly 60,000 prisoner
up from 50,000 several years ago. Some are really wrecks and they
are going to close a portion it for travaux.

On 24/12/05 14:49, in article , "JohnT"
wrote:


"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
...
If you have never seen La Santé it is down a couple of blocks from
Denfert-
Rochereau on the Blvd Arago. [MASSIVE SNIP]

I don't in any way condone people impersonating Mr Evleth, but he does tend
to bring it on himself by posting rubbish such as this.

JohnT


Now Scrooge, don't listen to the chains of the Ghost Grunge, as the
drag across the floor. Have a Merry Christmas :-)

On s'en fout de la santé tu n'y a jamais mis les pieds
Quel rapport avec les voyages une fois de plus
spammer malade il faut consulter c'est plus fort que toi


"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
If you have never seen La Santé it is down a couple of blocks from
Denfert-
Rochereau on the Blvd Arago. On the Blvd, in front of the prison you
will find the last surviving ****oir in Paris. The wall is continuous
except on one side there are the gates one passes through to visit.
Sometimes people will stand outside the walls and yell at people
they know. Visits are short, 30 minutes, once a week. La Santé
is exceptional in having a VIPs section for people too high
up on the social ladder to share shells with those lower down.

La Santé is older than the Fresne Prison which south of town in the
town of the same name. They have somewhat the same outside appearance.

La Sante is referred to as being "vétuste", a wreck, rotten and falling
apart.

Currently French prisons are overcrowded with nearly 60,000 prisoner
up from 50,000 several years ago. Some are really wrecks and they
are going to close a portion it for travaux.

One feature of the old prisons is that their heating systems
don't work well or at all. So the prisoners spend their winters
in bed, wearing everything they can.

Photos can be seen if you go to google images and santé prison photos

http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr...n&ie=UTF-8&sa=
N&tab=ni

Some of the photos don't look to bad. But if they don't show chipping
paint
etc, they aren't real!

*****

Une partie de la prison de la santé fermée par précaution début 2006

PARIS (AP) -- "Par mesure de précaution", l'administration pénitentiaire a
décidé de procéder au cours des premiers mois de l'année 2006 à la
fermeture
des blocs B et C de la maison d'arrêt de la Santé de Paris, qui doit faire
l'objet d'importantes rénovations à partir de 2008, a-t-on appris jeudi
auprès de l'administration pénitentiaire.

En janvier prochain, se tiendront les réunions des groupes de travail qui
doivent envisager les modalités de fermeture, a-t-on indiqué de même
source.
Environ 400 détenus seront concernés par cette fermeture de la partie
haute
de la prison, construite en 1867.

Avant de procéder à une évacuation, il faudra consulter les autorités
judiciaires, car si beaucoup de places pourront être libérées par les
remises en liberté successives, certains détenus devront être transférés
dans d'autres établissements et il faudra consulter leurs dossiers, selon
l'administration pénitentiaire.

L'administration dément que cette fermeture des blocs B et C soit une
"mesure d'urgence", comme l'a indiqué le journal "Le Monde" dans son
édition
datée de vendredi. "Les travaux sont programmés depuis 2002 et c'est une
mesure de précaution de fermer le quartier haut", insiste-t-on.
Reste que l'état d'insalubrité et de vétusté de la prison, qui accueillait
au 1er décembre 1.250 détenus pour 1.204 places, est de notoriété publique
depuis le livre de son ancien médecin chef, Véronique Vasseur, paru en
janvier 2000.

Selon "Le Monde", "récemment, des dalles de béton sont tombées des
plafonds.
Plâtres et peintures se décollent. Les rats prolifèrent"... AP

evleth specialist in **** throwing
of course more spam from the sicko spammer

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On 24/12/05 14:24, in article
1h82t7e.1f1gnuu1pwxjpzN%this_address_is_for_spam@y ahoo.com, "David Horne,
_the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
24h
offy" wrote:

I don't know if they do this in France, but at some of the prisons in
the UK, the prisoners like to throw their **** at the guards. Lovely...


Not widely practiced in France that I know of. The major problems are
fires. When our friend was at Clairvaux, which is one of the higher
security prisons in France, one fire, set by prisoners, destroyed
half the prisoner space. Another destroyed the shoe shop that our
friend worked in. These are usually set by trouble makers.

The throwing of ****-urine combinations was done by prisoners here in
the hole. In the US this is done by prisoners in Supermax facilities
where there are virtually no privileges, so punishment can not
be done using the punishment and reward system. Death row
in Florence Arizona is supermax, the only punishment is to
cut the electricity.

Of course never mind how many people are tired of his posting illness, he
knows he will go on doing it again and again, his god told him to do so

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On 24/12/05 14:49, in article , "JohnT"
wrote:


"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
...
If you have never seen La Santé it is down a couple of blocks from
Denfert-
Rochereau on the Blvd Arago. [MASSIVE SNIP]

I don't in any way condone people impersonating Mr Evleth, but he does
tend
to bring it on himself by posting rubbish such as this.

JohnT


Now Scrooge, don't listen to the chains of the Ghost Grunge, as the
drag across the floor. Have a Merry Christmas :-)

here comes the evleth's poodle
so evleth at last opens his door to us then, TY martin how helpful !

"Martin" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:49:33 -0000, "JohnT"
wrote:


"Earl Evleth" wrote in message
...
If you have never seen La Santé it is down a couple of blocks from
Denfert-
Rochereau on the Blvd Arago. [MASSIVE SNIP]

I don't in any way condone people impersonating Mr Evleth, but he does
tend
to bring it on himself by posting rubbish such as this.

but will you be at the party?
--
Martin