Jacques Chirac and taking the high moral ground

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Iraqi govt. papers: Saddam bribed Chirac

BAGHDAD, Jan. 28 (UPI) -- Documents from Saddam Hussein's oil ministry
reveal he used oil to bribe top French officials into opposing the
imminent U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

The oil ministry papers, described by the independent Baghdad
newspaper al-Mada, are apparently authentic and will become the basis
of an official investigation by the new Iraqi Governing Council, the
Independent reported Wednesday.

"I think the list is true," Naseer Chaderji, a governing council
member, said. "I will demand an investigation. These people must be
prosecuted."

Such evidence would undermine the French position before the war when
President Jacques Chirac sought to couch his opposition to the
invasion on a moral high ground.

A senior Bush administration official said Washington was aware of the
reports but refused further comment.

French diplomats have dismissed any suggestion their foreign policy
was influenced by payments from Saddam, but some European diplomats
have long suspected France's steadfast opposition to the war was less
moral than monetary.

"Oil runs thicker than blood," is how one former ambassador put his
suspicions about the French motives for opposing action against
Saddam.

Al-Mada's list cites a total of 46 individuals, companies and
organizations inside and outside Iraq as receiving Saddam's oil
bribes, including officials in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, the United Arab
Emirates, Turkey, Sudan, China, Austria and France, as well as the
Russian Orthodox Church, the Russian Communist Party, India's Congress
Party and the Palestine Liberation Organization.


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This was mentioned twice in your illegally reprinted article, Jerry--why did
you ignore it?

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Jerry Johnson wrote:
The oil ministry papers, described by the independent Baghdad
newspaper al-Mada, are apparently authentic and will become the basis
of an official investigation by the new Iraqi Governing Council, the
Independent reported Wednesday.

"apparently authentic" is the keyword here. With an invading country that is
far from neutral, and with no neutral observers to put credibility to any
findings, such reports must logically be dismissed.

This is the same as the WMDs that they will find in September designed to
bolster Bush Jr,s election prospects. The USA media will not cover any
questioning from oustide the USA about the authenticity of such a find (since
those will have been planted), so the american public will truly believe that
Bush was right and the idiot will get re-elected.

This is the same with the finding of Ossama which may happen in August or
perhaps even October (since he is probably already under custody).

In terms of the oil, there was no secret that many countries had contracts to
operate/fix the oil infrastructure in Iraq, and this includes France. And many
countries were vying for business in Iraq, including France trying to sell
french-made cars to Iraqis. In the fall of 2002, there was a big trade fair in
Bagdhad where many countries participated, trying to sell their wares. And
yes, deals with Iraq were struck with gifts. But this is something that is
very common outside the western world.

nobody wrote:
This is the same with the finding of Ossama which may happen in August or
perhaps even October (since he is probably already under custody).

Maybe we should start a pool. I say it happens on September 11, the last day
of the GOP convention in New York City.

miguel
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Jerry Johnson wrote ...

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Iraqi govt. papers: Saddam bribed Chirac

BAGHDAD, Jan. 28 (UPI) -- Documents from Saddam Hussein's oil ministry
reveal he used oil to bribe top French officials into opposing the
imminent U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

Lemme guess ... is the same 'source' that claimed just before this unlawful
war of aggression, that France had been selling helicopter and fighter
aircraft parts to Iraq ?

I have to laugh.

{ snip }

--
Des in Paris

wrote:


Lemme guess ... is the same 'source' that claimed just before this unlawful
war of aggression, that France had been selling helicopter and fighter
aircraft parts to Iraq ?

I have to laugh.

{ snip }

I guess this is a lie also?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/30/in...D-FRAN.html?hp
French Court Finds Ex-Minister Guilty of Illegal Party Funding
By ELAINE SCIOLINO

PARIS, Jan. 30 — In a stunning blow to President Jacques Chirac and
the future of his ruling party, the former prime minister Alain Juppé
was found guilty today of illegal party financing of a fake jobs
scheme, a move that could bar him from running for president in 2007.
etc.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:22:33 -0500, Brian wrote:

wrote:


Lemme guess ... is the same 'source' that claimed just before this unlawful
war of aggression, that France had been selling helicopter and fighter
aircraft parts to Iraq ?

I have to laugh.

{ snip }

I guess this is a lie also?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/30/in...D-FRAN.html?hp
French Court Finds Ex-Minister Guilty of Illegal Party Funding
By ELAINE SCIOLINO


But what does that have to do with the topic under discussion?

(Hint: yes, these guys are a corrupt conservative crowd. Sounds familiar?)

Brian wrote ...

Lemme guess ... is the same 'source' that claimed just before this
unlawful war of aggression, that France had been selling helicopter and
fighter aircraft parts to Iraq ?

I have to laugh.

I guess this is a lie also?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/30/in...D-FRAN.html?hp

No you idiot, that's a finding of a French court. It's what we call
'reliable'. Unlike the anti-French, worthy-of-New-York-Post, propaganda
posted to this thread.

--
Des in Paris

In article ,
wrote:

Brian wrote ...

Lemme guess ... is the same 'source' that claimed just before this
unlawful war of aggression, that France had been selling helicopter and
fighter aircraft parts to Iraq ?

I have to laugh.

I guess this is a lie also?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/30/in...D-FRAN.html?hp

No you idiot, that's a finding of a French court. It's what we call
'reliable'. Unlike the anti-French, worthy-of-New-York-Post, propaganda
posted to this thread.


"New York Post Propaganda"

I wonder what reporter Alain Hertoghe might say to this assertion....

jay
Sat Jan 31, 2004

Go Fig wrote ...

Lemme guess ... is the same 'source' that claimed just before this
unlawful war of aggression, that France had been selling helicopter
and fighter aircraft parts to Iraq ?

I have to laugh.

I guess this is a lie also?
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/30/in...D-FRAN.html?hp

No you idiot, that's a finding of a French court. It's what we call
'reliable'. Unlike the anti-French, worthy-of-New-York-Post, propaganda
posted to this thread.

"New York Post Propaganda"

I wonder what reporter Alain Hertoghe might say to this assertion....

Probably 'you'll be hearing from my lawyers'.

*shrug*

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Des in Paris