Odd meal timing (CX JFK-HKG flight)

Guess what is the pre-arrival meal for the non-stop CX JFK-HKG flight
given the local arrival time of around 8pm?


Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.

Not the Karl Orff wrote:
Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.


Were all 3 meals HOT ? If so, it wouldn't really make much of a difference in
terms of space.

And if the last meal was cold, they could have served a cold snack instead of
cold breakfast.

The obvious answer is that at 8pm in new york, it is 8am in HKG, so pax would
still have their body clock on HKG time and expect a breakfast.


On the other hand, it could have something to do with duration of flight and
health requirements. (airlines must serve food within a fixed number of hours
after they have been thawed/prepared). I'd have to reread a long bible on the
subject. Wonder if these regulations have been updated for ultra long flights
like the SG nyc-sin 18 hour flight.

Could be that they would really want to serve a light cold snack at end of
flight, but the flight was too long to allow that, so the next best thing was
to serve a breakfast which would have been loaded still frozen and thawed
during flight such that it was still legal to serve.

Did you think of asking the crew why they served breakfast ?

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:25:30 -0400, nobody wrote:

Not the Karl Orff wrote:
Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.


Were all 3 meals HOT ? If so, it wouldn't really make much of a difference in
terms of space.

And if the last meal was cold, they could have served a cold snack instead of
cold breakfast.

The obvious answer is that at 8pm in new york, it is 8am in HKG, so pax would
still have their body clock on HKG time and expect a breakfast.


On the other hand, it could have something to do with duration of flight and
health requirements. (airlines must serve food within a fixed number of hours
after they have been thawed/prepared). I'd have to reread a long bible on the
subject. Wonder if these regulations have been updated for ultra long flights
like the SG nyc-sin 18 hour flight.

Could be that they would really want to serve a light cold snack at end of
flight, but the flight was too long to allow that, so the next best thing was
to serve a breakfast which would have been loaded still frozen and thawed
during flight such that it was still legal to serve.

Did you think of asking the crew why they served breakfast ?
I am awfully glad you posted that , as I did not think many on here
nowadays would comprehend what I am about to say.
In the days of old (BOAC) agents got a Manual, this was updated many
times per week with all that is required to be known about service and
requirements of the company apropos its passengers. One advice we
had to give to passengers in the 50s and 60s was.... A meal or
refreshments will be served approximately 5hrs apart, allowing for
landing and take offs en route. So If you checked in at 0700hrs for
a 0900hrs departure, Breakfast would be served. Morning coffee is a
refreshment and often available most times of the flight. Luncheon
would then be served between 1300 and 1400hs, (departure time from
LHR plus) afternoon tea would be served inbetween and dinner would be
served 1900hrs to 2000hrs - not - the time on the ground of the
previous or next stop, the time on board. That is what the advice in
the manual was , so many times if you changed at Singapore, you
would have had a BOAC meal according to the above, but if you departed
Singapore at 0900hrs as the connection, then you would have *their*
breakfast, and as said before anyone goes berserk, that was those
days and the advice we were told to give passengers, not todays regime
of as little as possible and confuse people.

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:25:30 -0400, nobody wrote:

Not the Karl Orff wrote:
Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.


Were all 3 meals HOT ? If so, it wouldn't really make much of a difference in
terms of space.

And if the last meal was cold, they could have served a cold snack instead of
cold breakfast.

The obvious answer is that at 8pm in new york, it is 8am in HKG, so pax would
still have their body clock on HKG time and expect a breakfast.


On the other hand, it could have something to do with duration of flight and
health requirements. (airlines must serve food within a fixed number of hours
after they have been thawed/prepared). I'd have to reread a long bible on the
subject. Wonder if these regulations have been updated for ultra long flights
like the SG nyc-sin 18 hour flight.

Could be that they would really want to serve a light cold snack at end of
flight, but the flight was too long to allow that, so the next best thing was
to serve a breakfast which would have been loaded still frozen and thawed
during flight such that it was still legal to serve.

Did you think of asking the crew why they served breakfast ?
I am awfully glad you posted that , as I did not think many on here
nowadays would comprehend what I am about to say.
In the days of old (BOAC) agents got a Manual, this was updated many
times per week with all that is required to be known about service and
requirements of the company apropos its passengers. One advice we
had to give to passengers in the 50s and 60s was.... A meal or
refreshments will be served approximately 5hrs apart, allowing for
landing and take offs en route. So If you checked in at 0700hrs for
a 0900hrs departure, Breakfast would be served. Morning coffee is a
refreshment and often available most times of the flight. Luncheon
would then be served between 1300 and 1400hs, (departure time from
LHR plus) afternoon tea would be served inbetween and dinner would be
served 1900hrs to 2000hrs - not - the time on the ground of the
previous or next stop, the time on board. That is what the advice in
the manual was , so many times if you changed at Singapore, you
would have had a BOAC meal according to the above, but if you departed
Singapore at 0900hrs as the connection, then you would have *their*
breakfast, and as said before anyone goes berserk, that was those
days and the advice we were told to give passengers, not todays regime
of as little as possible and confuse people.

Not the Karl Orff wrote:

Guess what is the pre-arrival meal for the non-stop CX JFK-HKG flight
given the local arrival time of around 8pm?


Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.


I wish Singapore air had given us breakfast after an all night flight to
Tokyo before our final long leg into Singapore -- it may have been
dinner time locally -- but it was breakfast for the LA passengers by
their body time -- and we had to face pickled vegetables and fish for
breakfast

"jenn" wrote in message
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Not the Karl Orff wrote:

Guess what is the pre-arrival meal for the non-stop CX JFK-HKG flight
given the local arrival time of around 8pm?


Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.


I wish Singapore air had given us breakfast after an all night flight to
Tokyo before our final long leg into Singapore -- it may have been
dinner time locally -- but it was breakfast for the LA passengers by
their body time -- and we had to face pickled vegetables and fish for
breakfast

That sounds almost like kedgeree, did it include rice?
Which is a well know British Breakfast dish :-)

http://www.greatbritishkitchen.co.uk...y/kedgeree.htm

Miss L. Toe wrote:

"jenn" wrote in message
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Not the Karl Orff wrote:


Guess what is the pre-arrival meal for the non-stop CX JFK-HKG flight
given the local arrival time of around 8pm?


Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.


I wish Singapore air had given us breakfast after an all night flight to
Tokyo before our final long leg into Singapore -- it may have been
dinner time locally -- but it was breakfast for the LA passengers by
their body time -- and we had to face pickled vegetables and fish for
breakfast


That sounds almost like kedgeree, did it include rice?
Which is a well know British Breakfast dish :-)

I love kedgeree which I would have welcomed for breakfast -- I always
try to get it for breakfast in England although it is becoming hard to
find in my experience. No this was a dinner of fish and pickled
vegetables. Kedgeree is more like fried rice with bits of smoked fish
and egg and vegetables [not pickle] I had the double bad luck not only
to be stuck with dinner for breakfast on Singapore air -- but to be in
the part of coach where they always ran out of choices -- and it was
ALWAYS the fish that was left.

http://www.greatbritishkitchen.co.uk...y/kedgeree.htm

i remember being on a Emirates flight other month, the FA came along ask the
pax couple rows infront of me and working towards me asking what they
wanted. since they didnt know much english..... they looked at each one on
offer then decided by sight.

On the other hand i had looked at the menu and was going straight for the
chicken, but no i was not given a choice...... she got the basic tray out
and put fish in and handed it to me and said you like fish?!

the way it was said...... sounded like you have no choice mate, its fish or
fish take it or leave it. But cause feeling like myself and just hate being
forced into something i said.... errr... no, may i have the chicken please.
You know what when i asked for some white wine to go with my meal.... it
didnt turn up til i had finished.



"jenn" wrote in message
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Miss L. Toe wrote:

"jenn" wrote in message
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Not the Karl Orff wrote:


Guess what is the pre-arrival meal for the non-stop CX JFK-HKG flight
given the local arrival time of around 8pm?


Breakfast! Given that there are 2 other meals served prior to it, I
wonder if it is due to cost and/or galley space.


I wish Singapore air had given us breakfast after an all night flight to
Tokyo before our final long leg into Singapore -- it may have been
dinner time locally -- but it was breakfast for the LA passengers by
their body time -- and we had to face pickled vegetables and fish for
breakfast


That sounds almost like kedgeree, did it include rice?
Which is a well know British Breakfast dish :-)

I love kedgeree which I would have welcomed for breakfast -- I always
try to get it for breakfast in England although it is becoming hard to
find in my experience. No this was a dinner of fish and pickled
vegetables. Kedgeree is more like fried rice with bits of smoked fish
and egg and vegetables [not pickle] I had the double bad luck not only
to be stuck with dinner for breakfast on Singapore air -- but to be in
the part of coach where they always ran out of choices -- and it was
ALWAYS the fish that was left.

http://www.greatbritishkitchen.co.uk...y/kedgeree.htm

"~~ Ray ~~" wrote in message
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i remember being on a Emirates flight other month, the FA came along ask
the ......

remainder snipped

Oh dear, I am flying Emirates, (for the first time), to Oz in two weeks. I
hope that they do better than this.

"~~ Ray ~~" wrote in message
...
i remember being on a Emirates flight other month, the FA came along ask
the ......

remainder snipped

Oh dear, I am flying Emirates, (for the first time), to Oz in two weeks. I
hope that they do better than this.