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Postage
On 2014-03-02 19:56:32 -0600, S Viemeister said:
On 3/2/2014 8:47 PM, James Silverton wrote: On 3/2/2014 6:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote: On 2014-02-28 9:58 AM, S Viemeister wrote: On 2/28/2014 9:55 AM, James Silverton wrote: It's perhaps OT but the British Royal mail is to raise the price of a 1oz first class stamp to GBP 0.62. That's USD 1.03 and makes the US first class stamp at USD 0.49 sound like a bargain. Royal Mail was recently privatised... That's can't be. Privatization means competition and efficiency and it automatically leads to lower costs to the consumer. If there were more than one competing delivery services that might be true but the Mail still seems to be a monopoly. No, it's no longer a monopoly - http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/30/business/worldbusiness/30iht-ukpost.html Poor Royal Mail is also asking for a 2B GBP "investment" and is contending with a pension scheme set up in the environment of a monopoly. The USPS has a similar challenge. -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2014030220225588004-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2014-03-02 03:08:04 -0600, tim..... said: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2014030120331869307-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2014-02-28 08:58:42 -0600, S Viemeister said: On 2/28/2014 9:55 AM, James Silverton wrote: It's perhaps OT but the British Royal mail is to raise the price of a 1oz first class stamp to GBP 0.62. That's USD 1.03 and makes the US first class stamp at USD 0.49 sound like a bargain. Royal Mail was recently privatised... And now only people who send mail pay the price, rather than it coming from the general tax base. Cool! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, it returned a surplus to HMG most years so the tax payer did not subsidise people who wanted to post letter. And now I'll guess that you're going to ask why did privatisation (or the preparations for privatisation) make the prices jump up so much. Well that'll be because as a private entity it can't be seen to be given a monopoly and competition had to be allowed and, predictably, the competition picks off all of the easy to collect/deliver, individually, profitable post leaving the RM with all of the hard to collect/deliver, individually loss making post. So in effect there is no longer a cross subsidy from bulk mail to domestic mail, or from urban areas to rural area be careful what you wish for tim So it costs more to deliver mail to the remote, hard-to-reach areas. You get what you pay for. Who says it should cost the same amount no matter the destination. ----------------------------------------------------------- ITYF it's what the population would prefer - it's called democracy tim -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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On 3/3/2014 3:44 PM, tim..... wrote:
"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2014030220225588004-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2014-03-02 03:08:04 -0600, tim..... said: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2014030120331869307-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2014-02-28 08:58:42 -0600, S Viemeister said: On 2/28/2014 9:55 AM, James Silverton wrote: It's perhaps OT but the British Royal mail is to raise the price of a 1oz first class stamp to GBP 0.62. That's USD 1.03 and makes the US first class stamp at USD 0.49 sound like a bargain. Royal Mail was recently privatised... And now only people who send mail pay the price, rather than it coming from the general tax base. Cool! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, it returned a surplus to HMG most years so the tax payer did not subsidise people who wanted to post letter. And now I'll guess that you're going to ask why did privatisation (or the preparations for privatisation) make the prices jump up so much. Well that'll be because as a private entity it can't be seen to be given a monopoly and competition had to be allowed and, predictably, the competition picks off all of the easy to collect/deliver, individually, profitable post leaving the RM with all of the hard to collect/deliver, individually loss making post. So in effect there is no longer a cross subsidy from bulk mail to domestic mail, or from urban areas to rural area be careful what you wish for tim So it costs more to deliver mail to the remote, hard-to-reach areas. You get what you pay for. Who says it should cost the same amount no matter the destination. ----------------------------------------------------------- ITYF it's what the population would prefer - it's called democracy The "penny post" to anywhere in the UK was a revolutionary idea as was the comparable US postage rate. I really would be sad to see uniform pricing die. I think any private company that takes over mail delivery should be required to have such pricing and to deliver to *all* communities. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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"James Silverton" wrote in message ... On 3/3/2014 3:44 PM, tim..... wrote: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2014030220225588004-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2014-03-02 03:08:04 -0600, tim..... said: "Dan Stephenson" wrote in message news:2014030120331869307-stephedanospam@maccom... On 2014-02-28 08:58:42 -0600, S Viemeister said: On 2/28/2014 9:55 AM, James Silverton wrote: It's perhaps OT but the British Royal mail is to raise the price of a 1oz first class stamp to GBP 0.62. That's USD 1.03 and makes the US first class stamp at USD 0.49 sound like a bargain. Royal Mail was recently privatised... And now only people who send mail pay the price, rather than it coming from the general tax base. Cool! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, it returned a surplus to HMG most years so the tax payer did not subsidise people who wanted to post letter. And now I'll guess that you're going to ask why did privatisation (or the preparations for privatisation) make the prices jump up so much. Well that'll be because as a private entity it can't be seen to be given a monopoly and competition had to be allowed and, predictably, the competition picks off all of the easy to collect/deliver, individually, profitable post leaving the RM with all of the hard to collect/deliver, individually loss making post. So in effect there is no longer a cross subsidy from bulk mail to domestic mail, or from urban areas to rural area be careful what you wish for tim So it costs more to deliver mail to the remote, hard-to-reach areas. You get what you pay for. Who says it should cost the same amount no matter the destination. ----------------------------------------------------------- ITYF it's what the population would prefer - it's called democracy The "penny post" to anywhere in the UK was a revolutionary idea as was the comparable US postage rate. I really would be sad to see uniform pricing die. I think any private company that takes over mail delivery should be required to have such pricing and to deliver to *all* communities. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Such a requirement has no effect in practice if there is an (ex) monopoly service who prices are regulated. All the competing service has to do is deliver the profitable stuff themselves and then stick a stamp on the rest and put it in the local post box tim |
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On 3/1/2014 4:54 PM, Martin Theodor Ludwig wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 13:55:30 -0500, James Silverton wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:15 PM, Martin Theodor Ludwig wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:11:12 +0100, Tom P wrote: Standard size letter in Germany now costs 70 Euro cents since beginning of the year. No. Well, what does the stamp for a "standard size letter" cost in Germany? It's 60 cent (up to 20 grams) now after 58 in 2013 and 55 during several years before 2013. International letters cost 75 cent (unchanged since some years). OK, a US ounce is 28g, so the US letter rate is USD 0.49 or 66 euro cents; fairly comparable to Germany but the international rate to Europe from the US for one ounce is USD 1.15; a bit more than the 75 Euro cents you quote which would be USD 1.03. The circular US "Global Stamp" for international postage is also a "forever stamp" They are circular. It's hard to see which way is up but it doesn't seem to matter unlike years ago in Britain where I believe an upside down stamp was reason for a return to sender! -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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"James Silverton" wrote in message ... On 3/1/2014 4:54 PM, Martin Theodor Ludwig wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 13:55:30 -0500, James Silverton wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:15 PM, Martin Theodor Ludwig wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:11:12 +0100, Tom P wrote: Standard size letter in Germany now costs 70 Euro cents since beginning of the year. No. Well, what does the stamp for a "standard size letter" cost in Germany? It's 60 cent (up to 20 grams) now after 58 in 2013 and 55 during several years before 2013. International letters cost 75 cent (unchanged since some years). OK, a US ounce is 28g, so the US letter rate is USD 0.49 or 66 euro cents; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You need a new calculator 0.49 dollars is 0.35 Euro tim |
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On 3/5/2014 3:24 PM, tim..... wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message ... On 3/1/2014 4:54 PM, Martin Theodor Ludwig wrote: On Sat, 01 Mar 2014 13:55:30 -0500, James Silverton wrote: On 3/1/2014 1:15 PM, Martin Theodor Ludwig wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:11:12 +0100, Tom P wrote: Standard size letter in Germany now costs 70 Euro cents since beginning of the year. No. Well, what does the stamp for a "standard size letter" cost in Germany? It's 60 cent (up to 20 grams) now after 58 in 2013 and 55 during several years before 2013. International letters cost 75 cent (unchanged since some years). OK, a US ounce is 28g, so the US letter rate is USD 0.49 or 66 euro cents; ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You need a new calculator 0.49 dollars is 0.35 Euro Correct! Upside down. -- Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD) Extraneous "not." in Reply To. |
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On 3/5/2014 5:56 PM, Martin wrote:
ECB rate of exchange 5.3.14 USD1 = EUR 1.37 You might want to look at that again! |
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Papay Westray Postage
On 2014-03-03 03:16:29 -0600, Martin said:
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 20:22:55 -0600, Dan Stephenson wrote: So it costs more to deliver mail to the remote, hard-to-reach areas. You get what you pay for. Who says it should cost the same amount no matter the destination. The result is that nobody will deliver to remote addresses. Unless it is important, then there will be a price high enough to make it worth it. I see no problem in valuing expensive things expensively. I once visited Papay Westray, an island at the farthest reach of the Orkney Islands. It took a lot of doing to get ME out there. If I chose to reside there, why shouldn't it cost more to delivery anything out there, including mail? A very nice place by the way. I visited it for the neolithic settlement on the island, but I had a great time walking all around. A great place for solitude. -- Dan Stephenson http://stepheda.com Travel pages for Europe and the U.S.A. (and New Zealand too) |
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