Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama'sConstitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces similarlegislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to step up"

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

On Apr 24, 6:49*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

To quote you wonderful patriots...why do you always look for the
federal government to save your ass?

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in news:62d690c7-43fa-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths



If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws then you won't mind the local police
demanding to see your tax returns and your son's
draft registration card, with arrest powers for
those who "appear" to be out of compliance.

Mitchell Holman wrote
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in news:62d690c7-43fa-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths



If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws then you won't mind the local police
demanding to see your tax returns and your son's
draft registration card, with arrest powers for
those who "appear" to be out of compliance.


I wish Georgia good luck with that.

But as it seems, Obama has not gone the Canadian way.

Our system is not single payer, our federal government does not hold the key.

Our system is based on a Republican notion. "States Rights"

We have provincial based health care, and the ones who are fighting for
independence the most are the Quebecois.

But Mr. O'Donovan probably doesn't know that there are only 2 places in North
America who have "Civil Law" (Code Napoleon) and that's the state of Louisana and
the Province of Quebec.

The rest of us? British Common Law.


Essentially, as a Canadian and a person who believes in the Canadian system.

I think that Obama making health care a Federal thing is wrong.

It should be under the umbrella of Federal funding, but as in Canada, it sould be
up to the states to decide how to deliver it.

And I'm really ****ed that Americans can be fined for not having policies.

Thoough we in Canada are covered universally, the idea of penalizing people is the
first shot to **** everyone off.

There has to be a beter way to introduce universal health care. Just don't
criminalize things.

There are too many laws anyway.

On Apr 24, 5:49*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:
Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

Hawaii has already provided documents that prove Obama meets the
requirements of the constitution to be president. I'm sure Obama won't
mind providing Georgia, or any other state, with the appropriate
documents.

On Apr 24, 9:01*am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in news:62d690c7-43fa-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

* * If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws then you won't mind the local police
demanding to see your tax returns and your son's
draft registration card, with arrest powers for
those who "appear" to be out of compliance.



On Apr 24, 9:01*am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in news:62d690c7-43fa-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

* * If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws

I don't get your point Holeman.

The Secretary of each individual state must verify election results
under our electoral vote procedure.Therefore, it is within the rights
of the individual states to determine that the candidates are
Constitutionally eligible before allowing them to appear on their
ballots.

If you want to argue that our electoral procedure is flawed that
becomes another issue and many Senators from our smaller states like
the bluest of the blue Massachusetts will vehemently disagree that it
is flawed .

Take the time and read about The Connecticut Compromise, Holeman.
Without it, we would not have a central government at all, Holeman

BTW I am required by state law to attach a copy of my Federal Income
Tax return to be used as a basis for filing my Georgia state income
tax return and my state income tax is computed accordingly. I never
have considered that to be a problem. Would you?

Bill Coleman wrote in
T:

Mitchell Holman wrote
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in
news:62d690c7-43fa-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia
introduces similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States
have a duty to step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths



If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws then you won't mind the local police
demanding to see your tax returns and your son's
draft registration card, with arrest powers for
those who "appear" to be out of compliance.


I wish Georgia good luck with that.

But as it seems, Obama has not gone the Canadian way.

Our system is not single payer, our federal government does not hold
the key.

Our system is based on a Republican notion. "States Rights"

We have provincial based health care, and the ones who are fighting
for independence the most are the Quebecois.

But Mr. O'Donovan probably doesn't know that there are only 2 places
in North America who have "Civil Law" (Code Napoleon) and that's the
state of Louisana and the Province of Quebec.

The rest of us? British Common Law.


Essentially, as a Canadian and a person who believes in the Canadian
system.

I think that Obama making health care a Federal thing is wrong.

It should be under the umbrella of Federal funding, but as in Canada,
it sould be up to the states to decide how to deliver it.

And I'm really ****ed that Americans can be fined for not having
policies.

Thoough we in Canada are covered universally, the idea of penalizing
people is the first shot to **** everyone off.

There has to be a beter way to introduce universal health care.
Just don't criminalize things.



There WAS a better way. The public option. But
conservatives and their insurance company puppetmasters
shot it down. So now nothing can pass that doesn't
include the insurance giants, ergo forcing people to
buy their products. Hopefully this can be changed in
Obama's second administration. Along with the campaign
finance reform that would curb this obvious poisoning
of US politics in the first place.

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in
:

On Apr 24, 9:01*am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in
news:62d690c7-43f
a-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia
introduces similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States
have a duty to step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

* * If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws then you won't mind the local police
demanding to see your tax returns and your son's
draft registration card, with arrest powers for
those who "appear" to be out of compliance.



On Apr 24, 9:01*am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in
news:62d690c7-43f
a-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia
introduces similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States
have a duty to step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

* * If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws

I don't get your point Holeman.

The Secretary of each individual state must verify election results
under our electoral vote procedure.Therefore, it is within the rights
of the individual states to determine that the candidates are
Constitutionally eligible before allowing them to appear on their
ballots.



Where was that concern for states rights in federal
elections when Bush sued Florida and ordered them to
halt their recount of their ballots?



If you want to argue that our electoral procedure is flawed that
becomes another issue and many Senators from our smaller states like
the bluest of the blue Massachusetts will vehemently disagree that it
is flawed .

Take the time and read about The Connecticut Compromise, Holeman.
Without it, we would not have a central government at all, Holeman

BTW I am required by state law to attach a copy of my Federal Income
Tax return to be used as a basis for filing my Georgia state income
tax return and my state income tax is computed accordingly. I never
have considered that to be a problem. Would you?


Not having a state income tax that has not been a problem.
But tell me - would you complain if your state investigated
your federal tax return and froze your bank account during
the process? After all, you don't object to states enforcing
federal laws, as we have seen.

On Apr 24, 9:27*am, mg wrote:
On Apr 24, 5:49*am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths

Hawaii has already provided documents that prove Obama meets the
requirements of the constitution to be president. I'm sure Obama won't
mind providing Georgia, or any other state, with the appropriate
documents.

If any Hawaiian provided birth documents you are accusing that
Hawaiian of violating Hawaiian law because Obama has refused to give
authorization for the release of his vaulted birth certificate which
only he can authorize.

In introducing the legislation the Georgia Legislator, Mark Hatfield
stated verbatim:

"In view of all the uncertainty and all the disagreement about any
proof of citizenship of the current president, I believe that no
citizen should ever have any doubts about the citizenship of the
highest elected official of the land," Hatfield said, as quoted at NBC
channel 11 in Atlanta. "I don't think that the American people have
been given any adequate documentation of the President's citizenship."

O'Donovan, PJ, Himself wrote:
On Apr 24, 9:01 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in news:62d690c7-43fa-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths
If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws then you won't mind the local police
demanding to see your tax returns and your son's
draft registration card, with arrest powers for
those who "appear" to be out of compliance.



On Apr 24, 9:01 am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in news:62d690c7-43fa-
:

Following Arizona's lead in legislation questioning Obama's
Constitutional eligibility as POTUS, now State of Georgia introduces
similar legislation. "When Congress won't act, States have a duty to
step up"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/114e4zEvleths
If you are so eager for the states to enforce
federal laws

I don't get your point Holeman.

The Secretary of each individual state must verify election results
under our electoral vote procedure.Therefore, it is within the rights
of the individual states to determine that the candidates are
Constitutionally eligible before allowing them to appear on their
ballots.

If you want to argue that our electoral procedure is flawed that
becomes another issue and many Senators from our smaller states like
the bluest of the blue Massachusetts will vehemently disagree that it
is flawed .

Take the time and read about The Connecticut Compromise, Holeman.
Without it, we would not have a central government at all, Holeman

BTW I am required by state law to attach a copy of my Federal Income
Tax return to be used as a basis for filing my Georgia state income
tax return and my state income tax is computed accordingly. I never
have considered that to be a problem. Would you?

I take it that everyone who stands for office in Arizona and Georgia
will be producing their own ORIGINAL birth certificates? Methinks
these bozos have hoisted themselves on their own petard without
realizing it.

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It is clear that the "Birthers", "Teabaggers", politicians and media
hosts or pundits that purvey messages of resistance, insurrection and
don't want their kids to go to school to hear the words of the POTUS
have become the dupes and stooges of foreign intelligence services
that wish to see the US destabilized by a bunch of fools - they must
be laughing their heads off at these wingnuts who are so ready to be
their pawns...