Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

excerpts:

"...He is a god no more. His New Deal is no longer solely credited
with ending the Great Depression — World War II did that — and the war
in Europe was not won, as we all once thought, primarily by the United
States but more so by the Soviet Union. Yet these, to my mind, are
trifles compared to the criticism that Roosevelt was passive in the
face of the Holocaust. It’s not that he did nothing, it’s that he did
nothing much....

.....Both FDR and his wife, Eleanor, were genteel anti-Semites —...

.....As late as 1943, at the Casablanca Conference, he sympathized with
a French general’s observation that the Jews were overrepresented in
the professions. FDR referenced the “understandable complaints which
the Germans bore towards the Jews.”......"

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On Mar 13, 10:10Â*pm, :ПеаБраин wrote:
Washington Post 03/11/13: "The Holocaust: FDR’s indelible failure"

excerpts:

"...He is a god no more. His New Deal is no longer solely credited
with ending the Great Depression — World War II did that — and the war
in Europe was not won, as we all once thought, primarily by the United
States but more so by the Soviet Union. Yet these, to my mind, are
trifles compared to the criticism that Roosevelt was passive in the
face of the Holocaust. It’s not that he did nothing, it’s that he did
nothing much....

....Both FDR and his wife, Eleanor, were genteel anti-Semites —....

....As late as 1943, at the Casablanca Conference, he sympathized with
a French general’s observation that the Jews were overrepresented in
the professions. FDR referenced the “understandable complaints which
the Germans bore towards the Jews.�......"

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The Zionists wouldn't let him. They WANTED Jewish suffering, and a
sufficiency of it.

Read say Hanna Arendt or Edwin Black (a Christian doesn't have the Jew-
determined dispensation to write such - admittedly limited - truths).
Ever heard of them?

But why the focus on the "suffering of the Jews"? Non-Jewish soldiers,
sailors, airmen and civilians in their native towns and cities
suffered far higher risks than those put in - relatively - sheltered
concentration camps, albeit as slave labour; though when Allied fire
and other criminal carpet bombing of civilians on Germany commenced.
medical and other supplies wasn't available or didn't get through to
attenuate the incidence of horrific starvation and associated
infectious disease. The model was established in the first
concentration camps which were a necessary part of the so-called
"Boer" War (really War of the Janissaries against the white farmers
under the pretext of "Human Rights".

How old are you? Did you ever FEEL any empathy with the men who
returned from the War, warts and all? For the suffering of the Russian
masses? Or are you just another wretched cosmopolitan?

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:50:42 -0700 (PDT), dusty
wrote:

But why the focus on the "suffering of the Jews"? Non-Jewish soldiers,
sailors, airmen and civilians in their native towns and cities
suffered far higher risks than those put in - relatively - sheltered
concentration camps, albeit as slave labour;

Utter ********.

though when Allied fire
and other criminal carpet bombing of civilians on Germany commenced.

Well after the indiscriminate German bombing of the UK.

The model was established in the first
concentration camps which were a necessary part of the so-called
"Boer" War

Lie.

They're older than that.

How old are you? Did you ever FEEL any empathy with the men who
returned from the War, warts and all?

The Allied ones, yes.

On Mar 16, 12:51*am, Bill wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:50:42 -0700 (PDT), dusty

wrote:
But why the focus on the "suffering of the Jews"? Non-Jewish soldiers,
sailors, airmen and civilians in their native towns and cities
suffered far higher risks than those put in - relatively - sheltered
concentration camps, albeit as slave labour;

Utter ********.

though when Allied fire

and other criminal carpet bombing of civilians on Germany commenced.

Well after the indiscriminate German bombing of the UK.

*The model was established in the first

concentration camps which were a necessary part of the so-called
"Boer" War

Lie.

They're older than that.

How old are you? Did you ever FEEL any empathy with the men who
returned from the War, warts and all?

The Allied ones, yes.


Take just the German retaliatory behaviour in villages and towns on
the Eastern front* or say Greece (where most of the deaths were from
starvation (300,000) arising from earlier requisitioning of the
harvest) or the fire bombing of Dresden or other saturation bombing of
Allied / German cities.

On the Boer War : this was the first modern, organised military, use
of concentration camps. Where else? The mortality - due to infectious
disease and poor nutrition - was very high as the Germans and Allies
would have known.

Sounds like you are part of the "Special Suffering" school...er,
Bill..


*Most Jews died there - as Communist partisans or supporters and the
bullet was the method of choice.

On Mar 16, 10:47*am, dusty wrote:
On Mar 16, 12:51*am, Bill wrote:









On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:50:42 -0700 (PDT), dusty

wrote:
But why the focus on the "suffering of the Jews"? Non-Jewish soldiers,
sailors, airmen and civilians in their native towns and cities
suffered far higher risks than those put in - relatively - sheltered
concentration camps, albeit as slave labour;

Utter ********.

though when Allied fire

and other criminal carpet bombing of civilians on Germany commenced.

Well after the indiscriminate German bombing of the UK.

*The model was established in the first

concentration camps which were a necessary part of the so-called
"Boer" War

Lie.

They're older than that.

How old are you? Did you ever FEEL any empathy with the men who
returned from the War, warts and all?

The Allied ones, yes.

Take just the German retaliatory behaviour in villages and towns on
the Eastern front* or say Greece (where most of the deaths were from
starvation (300,000) arising from earlier requisitioning of the
harvest) or the fire bombing of Dresden or other saturation bombing of
Allied / German cities.

On the Boer War : this was the first modern, organised military, use
of concentration camps. Where else? The mortality - due to infectious
disease and poor nutrition - was very high as the Germans and Allies
would have known.

Sounds like you are part of the "Special Suffering" school...er,
Bill..

*Most Jews died there - as Communist partisans or supporters and the
bullet was the method of choice.

Or in the immediate post-war period:

"...the Czech Republic...expelled around 3,500,000 (in words: three
and one half million) Czech citizens of German ethnicity in 1945-48.
About 240,000 Germans died or were killed during what Germans around
the world refer to as “die Vertreibung” (The Expulsion).

The legal bases for The Expulsion and seizure of all personal and real
property without payment were the “Benes Decrees,”—which also
amnestied anyone who committed any violent or non-violent illegal act,
including murder or rape, against the Germans. The Expulsion
depopulated the Sudetenland, the Czech border areas next to Germany
and Austria, and offered ethnic Czechs free, fully-furnished real
estate just for the taking...."


Remind you of a certain state in the Middle East...there it's VERY
ongoing.


And we need mention the mass expulsions in the same period of ethnic
Germans from Rumania and the huge suffering associated with that?

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 01:12:44 -0700 (PDT), dusty
wrote:

On Mar 16, 10:47*am, dusty wrote: The Expulsion
depopulated the Sudetenland, the Czech border areas next to Germany
and Austria, and offered ethnic Czechs free, fully-furnished real
estate just for the taking...."


Remind you of a certain state in the Middle East...there it's VERY
ongoing.

Lie, but expected...

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:47:36 -0700 (PDT), dusty
wrote:



On the Boer War : this was the first modern, organised military, use
of concentration camps. Where else?

Poland in the Bar Confederation

The Spanish on Cuba in the 'Ten Years War'.


Sounds like you are part of the "Special Suffering" school...er,
Bill..

The inevitable sly anti-Semitic jibe, as expected.

On Mar 16, 11:30*pm, Bill wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:47:36 -0700 (PDT), dusty

wrote:

On the Boer War : this was the first modern, organised military, use
of concentration camps. Where else?

Poland in the Bar Confederation

The Spanish on Cuba in the 'Ten Years War'.

Sounds like you are part of the "Special Suffering" school...er,
Bill..

The inevitable sly anti-Semitic jibe, as expected.

Nothing "sly" Bill, very direct: I deny the lie of "Special
Suffering".

There were only several thousands of key figures of the Bar
Confederation imprisoned or deported to Siberia whereas 100's of
thousands of Boers were imprisoned and 30,000 died in the camps. For
the Jews concentration was universal, clearly a barbaric practice*. It
was so often done with the collaboration and direct aid of the leaders
of the Jewish communities.

The Ten Years War example is closer to the mark - but this applied to
those who "disobeyed" the brutal demands of the colonial power and was
only intended for the duration of the uprising, with practices rather
like the Strategic Hamlets used by the USA in Vietnam.

We could add to the list Allied soldiers in the Japanese slave labour/
death camps in WW 2, Japanese civilians in WW 2 USA, the British
civilians in the Black Hole of Calcutta, the Gulag series, including
that of 'political' prisoners and returned captured Russian soldiers.
Some Indian reservations could be loosely included, a form of
concentration more humane than the Gaza concentration in which the
inmates are periodically subjected to near-genocidal military
bombardment.

It's strange how the undoubted Jewish suffering during WW2 has
apparently had very little role at all in moderating Zionist behaviour
in Palestine and its support by the "children of the holocaust" living
in the USA, Britain etc.

Incidentally, I typed in "pre-Nazi concentration camp" on Google and
had to go through 30 pages before seeing any entry other than the Jews
in Nazi camps - and that was a refutation of Ron Paul's view that Gaza
is a concentration camp! Now that's what I call control!


* with the exception of the large numbers and capital allowed to
migrate to Palestine under the 'Transfer Agreement':
"...the agreement between Adolf Hitler and an organization of Zionist
Jews in 1933, which made Hitler "the chief economic sponsor of the
state of Israel". A sweeping, worldwide economic boycott of Germany by
Jews helped spur a deal between the Nazis and Zionists.[1] At that
time, there were few Jews in Palestine, but from 1933 through 1936,
60,000 German Jews immigrated into the region, bringing with them
$100,000,000 dollars ($1.6 billion in 2009 dollars).[2]"