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Thailand Visa question
"Sjoerd" wrote in message ...
"SPIDER" schreef in bericht lkabouttravelling.com... HI TOM, YES YOU CAN GET A VISA ON ARRIVAL BUT ON THE ENTRY FORM YOU WILL NEED TO PUT AN ADDRESS OF WHERE YOU ARE STAYING UNLESS YOU ARE ON A PACKAGE TOUR.I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY DAYS/WEEKS YOU WILL GET.WITH ME IT VARIED EVERY TIME(PROBABLY TO DO WITH IF THE GUY ON DUTY IS HAVING A BAD DAY OR NOT)(NO JOKE!!)ONCE YOU HAVE GOT YOUR ENTRY VISA YOU WILL HAVE TO RENEW IT IF YOU INTEND TO STAY LONGER BECAUSE IF YOU LET IT LAPSE YOU WILL BE FINED FOR EVERY DAY YOU OVERSTAY I THINK IT WAS ABOUT £1.60 PER DAY AT IMMIGRATION IN BANGKOK OR DOUBLE ON DEPARTURE AT THE AIRPORT OR BORDER POST.IF YOU ARE IN BANGKOK THE IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENT IS IN WIRELESS RD.GO A FEW DAYS BEFORE AND PICK UP A FORM,GET YOUR PHOTOS DONE,AND THEN PICK A 'DAY'!! WHEN YOU HAV'NT PLANNED TO ANYTHING!!BECAUSE,UNLESS YOU ARE VERY LUCKY,OR YOUR GOD HAS SMILED UPON YOU,THIS IS HOW LONG YOU WILL WAIT 'MINIMUM' FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO STAY IN THAILAND AND SPEND YOUR MONEY THERE.I HAVE HEARD OF PEOPLE HAVING TO GO BACK THE NEXT DAY AND LINE UP AND WAIT TO PICK UP THEIR VISA RENEWAL ONLY TO DISCOVER THAT THEY HAVE ONLY BEEN GIVEN 14 DAYS EXTRA.IF YOU HAVE THE TIME/MONEY YOU WOULD BE BETTER TO GO BORDER HOPPING,WHICH IS WHAT I ENDED UP DOING,AND GOING AND HAVING A LOOK AT SOME OTHER PARTS OF SOUTH EAST ASIA,AND GETTING ANOTHER VISA ON ARRIVAL,BUT AGAIN,IF YOU ONLY HAVE A TICKET INTO THAILAND AND NOT A RETURN TICKET OUT WHO KNOWS HOW LONG YOU'LL GET?GOOD LUCK!! 1) On 30+ entries to Thailand, they have never asked to see my return ticket at immigration, nor have they ever asked a single question. Immigration virtually never checks, as you say. But the airline does. 2) on all these entries I have been given the max. number of days. (15 days until the mid -1990's or so, 30 days thereafter) True. 3) just put any hotel on your entry form. Only becomes an issue if they try to contact you for one reason or another. Which they probably do one time in a million. 4) the OP already told us that he will be travelling to Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos before his 30 days are up. 5) reading your message is easier if you don't use ALL CAPS. Sjoerd |
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Thailand Visa question
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message ... EAC wrote: Anyway. For this kind of stuff, it's better to ask the Thailand embassy directly, their standing is probably more valid than the comments from most posters of rec.travel.asia, unless most posters in rec.travel.asia worked in Thailand embassies and represent their embassies official stand when they write in rec.travel.asia. This is a question about how the rules get bent. The embassy is a useless place to ask that kind of thing. Their job is to tell you about the rules. There are two categories of people who can tell you about how rules get bent: 1) The people who apply the rules (i.e., the immigration inspectors at Don Muang airport) 2) The people who have (or have not) had the rules bent for them. One of these groups is represented here in this newsgroup. The other, I'd hazard a guess, are pretty hard to come by online. What about there is no agreement between the two groups ? The latter group has no mandate whatsoever on the rules. About an year ago a chap ask in a Finnish group whether Finnair penalize those by hefty fees who arrive from Asia in Helsinki and do not use their ticket to Stockholm/Tallinn (such a composition is typically a lot cheaper than a return ticket from Helsinki). I said that folks in Finnair should know better than anyone else (naturally) but the policy has been that extra fees truly are rigorous (your baggage serving as a pawn). He was reluctant to ask because he thought the company personnel wouldn't tell him or would tell lies. It is just hard to convince some folks to use sources of robust and reliable information. |
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Thailand Visa question
"SPIDER" wrote in message alkabouttravelling.com...
SJOERD, IF YOU REQUIRE MORE THAN 30 DAYS ie:90 DAYS AS I DID BECAUSE I WAS LIVING IN BANGKOK AND PAYING THE RENT ON A CONDO,YOU HAVE TO GO TO IMMIGRATION. I USE CAPS LOCK WHEN I email BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY MANY OF MY FRIENDS IN SE ASIA TO DO SO AS THEY FIND IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.MAJORITY RULES! THANK YOU, SPIDER. You're not doing e-mail to your friend in SE Asia, you're posting on Usenet. So follow the rules here. If you're going to be in Thailand 90 days, get a 90 day visa or a multi-entry before you come. |
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Thailand Visa question
Hello Tom,
I have always found Thai immigration officers reasonable. Your ticket out of Bangkok should satisfy airline requirements but you may choose to check that with the airline. You will require visas for Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. I recommend you obtain these in England before departure to save time on your trip and to verify your intentions in the unlikely event that any questions arise. I am planning a similar trip in August and will not seek a 60 day Thai visa. Good luck, Jim |
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:28:04 +1000, "Viviane"
wrote: I think Qantas will view your immigration status in Thailand as an issue for the Thais, particularly as you are carrying a ticket out of Thailand at a later date. It is an issue for the Thais, and as such they require that airlines bringing passengers into Thailand ensure that they meet basic immigration requirements. If the airline fails to do so they can have heavy fines imposed on them and be required to return passengers to their point of departure at the airline's expense. In Tom's case, he's not fully meeting immigrations regulations, but his breach of them is so minor that it probably won't be a problem. "Sjoerd" wrote in message .. . "Queequak" schreef in bericht ... First thing you need to do is tell us what passport you carry. If you're American or Brit or Aussie you don't even need a 30 day visa. Just show up. Thai Immigration will not check your plane ticket. However, the airline that flies you in might check. If they do, they will want to see a visa that applies from the arrival date to departure date on your ticket. If the airline realizes that the 60 day visa isn't enough, they might still refuse you. I'm on a British passport, so figured that I could get a 30 day when landing in BK. I'm flying out of Sydney on Quantas, and that sounds like the only place where I could come unstuck. Just how likely is it that they will check for visa requirments prior to flight? Is this standard airline procedure, or is it simply a case of it being 'thai immigration's' problem, rather than their lookout? Normally the airline should check, but if you have a good story + preferably supporting evidence (do you have a Vietnamese visa in your passport?), they will let you travel to Thailand. Don't worry, you won't have a problem. Sjoerd |
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Viviane wrote:
I think Qantas will view your immigration status in Thailand as an issue for the Thais The reason that airlines check is that they are fined thousands of dollars if they bring someone into a country who is then denied entry for insufficient documentation. So Qantas very much cares. It's just that in the case of Thailand everyone knows that there is no bother if you come from a rich country, so the airlines don't bother either in that case. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu |
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jimstitfall wrote:
I have always found Thai immigration officers reasonable. Your ticket out of Bangkok should satisfy airline requirements but you may choose to check that with the airline. You will require visas for Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. I recommend you obtain these in England before departure to save time on your trip and to verify your intentions in the unlikely event that any questions arise. Cambodia visa is no hassle at the airport. miguel -- Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu |
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Thailand Visa question
It is an issue for the Thais, and as such they require that airlines
bringing passengers into Thailand ensure that they meet basic immigration requirements. If the airline fails to do so they can have heavy fines imposed on them and be required to return passengers to their point of departure at the airline's expense. In Tom's case, he's not fully meeting immigrations regulations, but his breach of them is so minor that it probably won't be a problem. Thanks for all your advice guys.. much appreciated. What I think I'm going to do is ask Quantas when I check-in for my flight to Perth and if they tell me I need a visa I'll either sort one out in Sydney or just bring forward my return ticket date from BK (so it's less than 30 days) and change it back once I get to BK. Seems the onyl way to do things since I'm flying out on Tuesday - no time to apply for a visa now. Just crossing my fingers it isn't going to be a problem.. like everyone has said, I don't think I'm the only person flying into Thailand without a visa intending to move overland throughour SE asia. Cheers Tom |
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Thailand Visa question
Hi,
recently did exactly what you plan to do, from Sydney, too. Technically Thai immigration can ask for return tickets - it seems this has never happened before, though. I think they should be happy with your explanation - you're leaving overland, coming back later. Innumerable other tourists do this, too - should be fine. If you're really worried, get a cheap Air Asia ticket to somewhere not-Thai, just to show if asked. Maybe you can even find a way so you can actually use it? |
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