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US opinion poll on Iraq ear
"regn.pickford" wrote:
"Gordon Levi" wrote in message .. . "PJ O'Donovan" wrote: 57% of those polled agreed with the statement, “I support finishing the job in Iraq, that is, keeping the troops there until the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for their people.” That statement encapsulates the folly of coalition policy in Iraq. It implies that the current Iraqi government wants to provide "security for their people" and that coalition forces are making a positive contribution to that end. There is ample evidence that those assumptions are false. Now what about asking the question - "Do you agree with the statement 'We should stay in Iraq despite the sectarian violence that has steadily increased since our arrival and the presence of Islamic terrorists and Iran backed militia that have come to attack the United States'"? The option being Do you want to withdraw the troops and see 4 million sunnies turned into grease signalling the invasions by Iran, Syria and possibly Turkey with further butchering of the Kurds These scenarios are probably mutually exclusive but let's suppose they are all possible. The situation _now_ is a disaster for the coalition and for the Iraqis. Why not withdraw the forces to neighbouring countries and tell the Iraqis, Iran, Syria and possibly Turkey, to sort it out. Re invasion of Iraq is always an option and a foreign invasion of Iraq is something that the United States is capable of, and would relish, defeating. I do not understand why you, and the U.S. Administration, want to turn this into another Vietnam by choosing between staying and losing or retreating and losing. It is still possible to retreat and retain some power to influence the outcome. and have the pprice of oil determined by radical Islamics who want to destroy the West.? If Iraq and Iran are the major factors in determining the price of oil then the situation cannot get worse. The United States is involved in a major confrontation with Iran and the radical Islamics are ensuring that Iraq's oil production is insignificant. |
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US opinion poll on Iraq ear
"Gordon Levi" wrote in message ... "regn.pickford" wrote: "Gordon Levi" wrote in message .. . "PJ O'Donovan" wrote: 57% of those polled agreed with the statement, “I support finishing the job in Iraq, that is, keeping the troops there until the Iraqi government can maintain control and provide security for their people.” That statement encapsulates the folly of coalition policy in Iraq. It implies that the current Iraqi government wants to provide "security for their people" and that coalition forces are making a positive contribution to that end. There is ample evidence that those assumptions are false. Now what about asking the question - "Do you agree with the statement 'We should stay in Iraq despite the sectarian violence that has steadily increased since our arrival and the presence of Islamic terrorists and Iran backed militia that have come to attack the United States'"? The option being Do you want to withdraw the troops and see 4 million sunnies turned into grease signalling the invasions by Iran, Syria and possibly Turkey with further butchering of the Kurds These scenarios are probably mutually exclusive but let's suppose they are all possible. The situation _now_ is a disaster for the coalition and for the Iraqis. Why not withdraw the forces to neighbouring countries and tell the Iraqis, Iran, Syria and possibly Turkey, to sort it out. Re invasion of Iraq is always an option and a foreign invasion of Iraq is something that the United States is capable of, and would relish, defeating. I do not understand why you, and the U.S. Administration, want to turn this into another Vietnam by choosing between staying and losing or retreating and losing. If the opportunity to divvy up countries could get Stalin and Hitler to come to an amicable agreement, there shouldn't be a problem for Iran Syria and Turkey carving out new possesions from a former Iraq. As with Iraq the preferred option is that force is avoided and the ragheads wake up to themselves and comply with the requests from the UN. force is the remaining option when diplomacy fails. It is still possible to retreat and retain some power to influence the outcome. and have the pprice of oil determined by radical Islamics who want to destroy the West.? If Iraq and Iran are the major factors in determining the price of oil then the situation cannot get worse. The United States is involved in a major confrontation with Iran and the radical Islamics are ensuring that Iraq's oil production is insignificant. I'm sure Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and the other relatively `west neutral' oil suppliers will take heart at this new radical syrianna on their doorsteps considering how they just whupped the Coalition and sent them scarpering over the hills and far away. |
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