Olympics Wagering

[Please note cross-posts.]

My bet is that China will profoundly regret its successful bid to host
the 2008 Summer Olympics. The opening ceremonies will start happening
in fewer than three hours.

When journalists from the USA, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Japan,
Israel, India, and other countries with a relatively free press, are
told they can't go here and there to report on this or that, they'll
go farther and deeper to get stories that China doesn't want us to
read, hear, or see.

Although I've not seen the contractual language, I believe China has
already reneged on its commitment to not interfere with full access to
the 'Net and WEB.

Wanna bet?

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[Please note cross-posts.]

My bet is that China will profoundly regret its successful bid to host
the 2008 Summer Olympics. The opening ceremonies will start happening
in fewer than three hours.

When journalists from the USA, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Japan,
Israel, India, and other countries with a relatively free press, are
told they can't go here and there to report on this or that, they'll
go farther and deeper to get stories that China doesn't want us to
read, hear, or see.

Although I've not seen the contractual language, I believe China has
already reneged on its commitment to not interfere with full access to
the 'Net and WEB.

They didn't say "full access", they said "full access to sites needed by
journalists" (or something similar). They are thus free to interpret this
differently to you and I

Tim

On Aug 8, 2:22*am, wrote:
[Please note cross-posts.]

My bet is that China will profoundly regret its successful bid to host
the 2008 Summer Olympics. The opening ceremonies will start happening
in fewer than three hours.

When journalists from the USA, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Japan,
Israel, India, and other countries with a relatively free press, are
told they can't go here and there to report on this or that, they'll
go farther and deeper to get stories that China doesn't want us to
read, hear, or see.

Although I've not seen the contractual language, I believe China has
already reneged on its commitment to not interfere with full access to
the 'Net and WEB.

Wanna bet?


The Chinese people are almost universally unified behind their country
in hosting this Olympics. Judging from the opening ceremony they have
reasons to be proud of the accomplishments of their country, and it's
there for all the world to see.

There is no commitment to "full" access to the net, BTW. Besides,
anyone who wants to can access blocked web sites. The web is too full
of holes for censor.

"PeterL" wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 2:22 am, wrote:
[Please note cross-posts.]

My bet is that China will profoundly regret its successful bid to host
the 2008 Summer Olympics. The opening ceremonies will start happening
in fewer than three hours.

When journalists from the USA, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Japan,
Israel, India, and other countries with a relatively free press, are
told they can't go here and there to report on this or that, they'll
go farther and deeper to get stories that China doesn't want us to
read, hear, or see.

There is no commitment to "full" access to the net, BTW. Besides,
anyone who wants to can access blocked web sites. The web is too full
of holes for censor.
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Not if the only "ISP" is the government firewall.
Rather than blocking IP's, think of it as allowing only 'these IPs'.

On Aug 8, 2:22*am, wrote:
[Please note cross-posts.]

My bet is that China will profoundly regret its successful bid to host
the 2008 Summer Olympics. The opening ceremonies will start happening
in fewer than three hours.

When journalists from the USA, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Japan,
Israel, India, and other countries with a relatively free press, are
told they can't go here and there to report on this or that, they'll
go farther and deeper to get stories that China doesn't want us to
read, hear, or see.

Although I've not seen the contractual language, I believe China has
already reneged on its commitment to not interfere with full access to
the 'Net and WEB.

Wanna bet?


It appears that you have lose your bet:

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/new...yhoo&type=lgns

On Aug 8, 2:22*am, wrote:
[Please note cross-posts.]

My bet is that China will profoundly regret its successful bid to host
the 2008 Summer Olympics. The opening ceremonies will start happening
in fewer than three hours.

When journalists from the USA, Canada, Australia, Brazil, Japan,
Israel, India, and other countries with a relatively free press, are
told they can't go here and there to report on this or that, they'll
go farther and deeper to get stories that China doesn't want us to
read, hear, or see.

Although I've not seen the contractual language, I believe China has
already reneged on its commitment to not interfere with full access to
the 'Net and WEB.

Wanna bet?


It appears that you have lose your bet:

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/new...yhoo&type=lgns

[Recreation of a post of two hours ago that hasn't appeared.]

Tim said:
They didn't say "full access", they said "full access to sites needed by
journalists" (or something similar). They are thus free to interpret this
differently to you and I

I heard a report that Wikipedia was blocked. It isn't difficult to
argue that a journalist might need to access that site while working.

On Aug 8, 4:05 pm, PeterL wrote:
On Aug 8, 2:22 am, wrote:
My bet is that China will profoundly regret its successful bid to host
the 2008 Summer Olympics.

When journalists … are told they can't go here and there to report on
this or that, they'll go farther and deeper to get stories that China doesn't
want us to read, hear, or see.

Wanna bet?

I watched the Opening Ceremony while having dinner in a bar. Watched,
did not hear. Just watched, and heard, the rebroadcast that was just
as thrilling as the first viewing. Thanks to the National Broadcasting
Company for making this possible. And thanks to Bob Costas and the
other commenters for their restraint when their comments were
unnecessary and their explanations when they were needed.

I was pleased that some of the thoughts I expressed during the first
viewing, such as the pressure on London for the seeming impossibility
of topping this spectacle and the incredible precision of the
performers were also expressed on the air.

It appears that you have lose your bet:

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/new...80808&prov=yho....

I read the excellent report at the URL above before the second
viewing. Thank you for the link.

We cannot know the resolution of my proposition 'til the end o'the
month at the earliest. It appears you read what you wanted me to have
said rather than what I did say.

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I heard a report that Wikipedia was blocked. It isn't difficult to
argue that a journalist might need to access that site while working.


A relative of mine just returned from a couple of years in China - she
reports that Wikipedia and a number of other sites, are indeed blocked.

(crossposts removed)

oh great news martin ,all in topic of copurse.
Wouldn't you like to plonk yourself ?

"Martin" a écrit dans le message de
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:31:59 -0400, S Viemeister

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wrote:


I heard a report that Wikipedia was blocked. It isn't difficult to
argue that a journalist might need to access that site while working.


A relative of mine just returned from a couple of years in China - she
reports that Wikipedia and a number of other sites, are indeed blocked.

(crossposts removed)

Wikipedia has been unblocked in the meantime.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chinese_...d_across_China

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Martin