Schools are dangerous places in the USA

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Markku Grönroos wrote:

Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people
severely injured.
Time to collect firearms away from the civilians.

How would this help?

The number of incidents of this nature would decrease
dramatically.

Why, exactly?

Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas.
Firing it and injuring others definitely is.

Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession
of
a firearm) help?

You may have misunderstood. Marrku feels that if all guns in the
US
were outlawed, there would be no more shootings.


Works in DC doesn 't it?

Uh, guns aren't outlawed in DC.

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Yup. and see how well it works to stop shootings.

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Grönroos wrote:

Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people severely
injured.
Time to collect firearms away from the civilians.

How would this help?

The number of incidents of this nature would decrease dramatically.

Why, exactly?

Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas. Firing it
and injuring others definitely is.

Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession of a
firearm) help?

I am not talking about "charges" but about number of fire arms in civilian
possession. Where in the civilized world people get shot to death in
frequency comparable to the USA? Nowhere. These figures you find only in
countries like Afghanistan, South Africa and Sudan. In warring countries.
Just collect the guns away from the civilians. There will be lots of
resistance but you must be firm and you must stand on your own two feet.
Show that you are not mice but men. Ordinary man does not need firearms for
anything. The only period of time I have even touched firearms was when I
did my military service. I was shooting 9.62mm assault rifles and 152mm
guns. Guns of this calibre don't fit holsters anymore. But they are very
macho.

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Markku
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Markku Grönroos wrote:

Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people
severely injured.
Time to collect firearms away from the civilians.

How would this help?

The number of incidents of this nature would decrease
dramatically.

Why, exactly?

Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas.
Firing it and injuring others definitely is.

Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession
of
a firearm) help?

You may have misunderstood. Marrku feels that if all guns in the
US
were outlawed, there would be no more shootings.


Works in DC doesn 't it?

Uh, guns aren't outlawed in DC.

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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



Yup. and see how well it works to stop shootings.

Geez, you folks need to lighten up. The history is that DC had one of
the strictest gun bans in the US--that ban had no noticeable effect on
violent crime, the Supreme Court a few months ago ruled that that ban
violated the Constitution (the first time in history that it has
looked at local ordinance gun bans), and there have been no statistics
published since so any opinion you express concerning the overturning
of the gun ban on the crime rate in DC you pulled out of your ass.

You want to stop killings, find out why people want to kill each other
and change it. People were killing each other wholesale long before
there were guns. Gun bans don't address the cause of the problem,
they try to tack a band-aid on it.

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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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In message
Markku
Grönroos wrote:


"DevilsPGD" kirjoitti
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In message i
Markku Grönroos wrote:

Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people
severely injured.
Time to collect firearms away from the civilians.

How would this help?

The number of incidents of this nature would decrease
dramatically.

Why, exactly?

Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas.
Firing it and injuring others definitely is.

Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession
of
a firearm) help?

You may have misunderstood. Marrku feels that if all guns in the
US
were outlawed, there would be no more shootings.


Works in DC doesn 't it?

Uh, guns aren't outlawed in DC.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



Yup. and see how well it works to stop shootings.

Geez, you folks need to lighten up. The history is that DC had one of
the strictest gun bans in the US--that ban had no noticeable effect on
violent crime, the Supreme Court a few months ago ruled that that ban
violated the Constitution (the first time in history that it has
looked at local ordinance gun bans), and there have been no statistics
published since so any opinion you express concerning the overturning
of the gun ban on the crime rate in DC you pulled out of your ass.

You want to stop killings, find out why people want to kill each other
and change it. People were killing each other wholesale long before
there were guns. Gun bans don't address the cause of the problem,
they try to tack a band-aid on it.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)



The other person does not recognize sarcasm. The drug war has caused most
of the gun deaths. A failed war, just like alcohol prohibition! Too much
profit in illegal drugs just like in illegal booze in the Prohibition days.
Change the War on Drugs and we may affect the death rate. As well as doing
something to bring some sanctity to life. When the youth have no love in
the life except money, shooting somebody is nothing to them.

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
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I am not talking about "charges" but about number of fire arms in civilian
possession. Where in the civilized world people get shot to death in
frequency comparable to the USA? Nowhere. These figures you find only in
countries like Afghanistan, South Africa and Sudan. In warring countries.
Just collect the guns away from the civilians. There will be lots of
resistance but you must be firm and you must stand on your own two feet.
Show that you are not mice but men. Ordinary man does not need firearms
for anything. The only period of time I have even touched firearms was
when I did my military service. I was shooting 9.62mm assault rifles and
152mm guns. Guns of this calibre don't fit holsters anymore. But they are
very macho.

OK Markku, I'll bite;
For the purpose of this discussion, you are in total charge of the USA.
Now how would you proceed to relieve the citizens of firearms? You can
start with my home if you like.

Jim Davis wrote:
"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
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I am not talking about "charges" but about number of fire arms in
civilian possession. Where in the civilized world people get shot to
death in frequency comparable to the USA? Nowhere. These figures you
find only in countries like Afghanistan, South Africa and Sudan. In
warring countries. Just collect the guns away from the civilians.
There will be lots of resistance but you must be firm and you must
stand on your own two feet. Show that you are not mice but men.
Ordinary man does not need firearms for anything. The only period of
time I have even touched firearms was when I did my military
service. I was shooting 9.62mm assault rifles and 152mm guns. Guns
of this calibre don't fit holsters anymore. But they are very macho.

OK Markku, I'll bite;
For the purpose of this discussion, you are in total charge of the
USA. Now how would you proceed to relieve the citizens of firearms? You
can start with my home if you like.

NEED is not the criterion. WANT is the operative condition.