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Schools are dangerous places in the USA
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... CalifBill wrote: "Jim Davis" wrote in message m... "DevilsPGD" wrote in message ... In message Markku Grönroos wrote: "DevilsPGD" kirjoitti om... In message i Markku Grönroos wrote: Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people severely injured. Time to collect firearms away from the civilians. How would this help? The number of incidents of this nature would decrease dramatically. Why, exactly? Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas. Firing it and injuring others definitely is. Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession of a firearm) help? You may have misunderstood. Marrku feels that if all guns in the US were outlawed, there would be no more shootings. Works in DC doesn 't it? Uh, guns aren't outlawed in DC. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) Yup. and see how well it works to stop shootings. |
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Schools are dangerous places in the USA
"DevilsPGD" kirjoitti om... In message Markku Grönroos wrote: "DevilsPGD" kirjoitti viestissä:gafk84ddvthja71rjdq1540kubi1uvguij@4ax .com... In message i Markku Grönroos wrote: Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people severely injured. Time to collect firearms away from the civilians. How would this help? The number of incidents of this nature would decrease dramatically. Why, exactly? Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas. Firing it and injuring others definitely is. Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession of a firearm) help? I am not talking about "charges" but about number of fire arms in civilian possession. Where in the civilized world people get shot to death in frequency comparable to the USA? Nowhere. These figures you find only in countries like Afghanistan, South Africa and Sudan. In warring countries. Just collect the guns away from the civilians. There will be lots of resistance but you must be firm and you must stand on your own two feet. Show that you are not mice but men. Ordinary man does not need firearms for anything. The only period of time I have even touched firearms was when I did my military service. I was shooting 9.62mm assault rifles and 152mm guns. Guns of this calibre don't fit holsters anymore. But they are very macho. |
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Schools are dangerous places in the USA
CalifBill wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... CalifBill wrote: "Jim Davis" wrote in message m... "DevilsPGD" wrote in message ... In message Markku Grönroos wrote: "DevilsPGD" kirjoitti om... In message i Markku Grönroos wrote: Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people severely injured. Time to collect firearms away from the civilians. How would this help? The number of incidents of this nature would decrease dramatically. Why, exactly? Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas. Firing it and injuring others definitely is. Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession of a firearm) help? You may have misunderstood. Marrku feels that if all guns in the US were outlawed, there would be no more shootings. Works in DC doesn 't it? Uh, guns aren't outlawed in DC. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) Yup. and see how well it works to stop shootings. Geez, you folks need to lighten up. The history is that DC had one of the strictest gun bans in the US--that ban had no noticeable effect on violent crime, the Supreme Court a few months ago ruled that that ban violated the Constitution (the first time in history that it has looked at local ordinance gun bans), and there have been no statistics published since so any opinion you express concerning the overturning of the gun ban on the crime rate in DC you pulled out of your ass. You want to stop killings, find out why people want to kill each other and change it. People were killing each other wholesale long before there were guns. Gun bans don't address the cause of the problem, they try to tack a band-aid on it. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Schools are dangerous places in the USA
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... CalifBill wrote: "J. Clarke" wrote in message ... CalifBill wrote: "Jim Davis" wrote in message m... "DevilsPGD" wrote in message ... In message Markku Grönroos wrote: "DevilsPGD" kirjoitti om... In message i Markku Grönroos wrote: Once again! A shooting incident in Arizona. Several people severely injured. Time to collect firearms away from the civilians. How would this help? The number of incidents of this nature would decrease dramatically. Why, exactly? Bringing a gun to a school tends to be illegal in most areas. Firing it and injuring others definitely is. Why would adding one more charge to the list (illegal possession of a firearm) help? You may have misunderstood. Marrku feels that if all guns in the US were outlawed, there would be no more shootings. Works in DC doesn 't it? Uh, guns aren't outlawed in DC. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) Yup. and see how well it works to stop shootings. Geez, you folks need to lighten up. The history is that DC had one of the strictest gun bans in the US--that ban had no noticeable effect on violent crime, the Supreme Court a few months ago ruled that that ban violated the Constitution (the first time in history that it has looked at local ordinance gun bans), and there have been no statistics published since so any opinion you express concerning the overturning of the gun ban on the crime rate in DC you pulled out of your ass. You want to stop killings, find out why people want to kill each other and change it. People were killing each other wholesale long before there were guns. Gun bans don't address the cause of the problem, they try to tack a band-aid on it. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) The other person does not recognize sarcasm. The drug war has caused most of the gun deaths. A failed war, just like alcohol prohibition! Too much profit in illegal drugs just like in illegal booze in the Prohibition days. Change the War on Drugs and we may affect the death rate. As well as doing something to bring some sanctity to life. When the youth have no love in the life except money, shooting somebody is nothing to them. |
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Schools are dangerous places in the USA
"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
.fi... I am not talking about "charges" but about number of fire arms in civilian possession. Where in the civilized world people get shot to death in frequency comparable to the USA? Nowhere. These figures you find only in countries like Afghanistan, South Africa and Sudan. In warring countries. Just collect the guns away from the civilians. There will be lots of resistance but you must be firm and you must stand on your own two feet. Show that you are not mice but men. Ordinary man does not need firearms for anything. The only period of time I have even touched firearms was when I did my military service. I was shooting 9.62mm assault rifles and 152mm guns. Guns of this calibre don't fit holsters anymore. But they are very macho. OK Markku, I'll bite; For the purpose of this discussion, you are in total charge of the USA. Now how would you proceed to relieve the citizens of firearms? You can start with my home if you like. |
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Schools are dangerous places in the USA
Jim Davis wrote:
"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message .fi... I am not talking about "charges" but about number of fire arms in civilian possession. Where in the civilized world people get shot to death in frequency comparable to the USA? Nowhere. These figures you find only in countries like Afghanistan, South Africa and Sudan. In warring countries. Just collect the guns away from the civilians. There will be lots of resistance but you must be firm and you must stand on your own two feet. Show that you are not mice but men. Ordinary man does not need firearms for anything. The only period of time I have even touched firearms was when I did my military service. I was shooting 9.62mm assault rifles and 152mm guns. Guns of this calibre don't fit holsters anymore. But they are very macho. OK Markku, I'll bite; For the purpose of this discussion, you are in total charge of the USA. Now how would you proceed to relieve the citizens of firearms? You can start with my home if you like. NEED is not the criterion. WANT is the operative condition. |
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