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Old June 25th, 2007, 01:33 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
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oups.com...

Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.


Like Bulgaria?


Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".

B;

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Old June 25th, 2007, 01:37 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Martin wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:25:58 +0100, (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

[]
Racism probably has something to do with it. EU members are opposed to
Turkey joining, with Hungary, UK, and the Iberian peninsula being more
supportive- Hungary is the only one that edges over 50% support. That
could likely change in the next few years though, in Turkey's favour.
The real sticking points may not even be Cyprus- Austria supports the
entry of Turkey even _less_ than Cyprus (10% as opposed to 15%) and
they've promised to put it to a national referendum. France and Germany
support the entry of Turkey even less than Greece!


If there was a referendum in UK, I doubt if a majority would support UK
being in the EU, never mind anybody else joining the EU.


Well, the anti-EU people would have to do a big job of convincing the
'don't knows'. Recent polls show that 33% think the EU is a 'good
thing'- 25% a 'bad thing.' Most people don't care much either way. I
think a poll would confirm support, though not by a big margin.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
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Old June 25th, 2007, 01:38 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:

Martin wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:25:58 +0100, (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

[]
Racism probably has something to do with it. EU members are opposed to
Turkey joining, with Hungary, UK, and the Iberian peninsula being more
supportive- Hungary is the only one that edges over 50% support. That
could likely change in the next few years though, in Turkey's favour.
The real sticking points may not even be Cyprus- Austria supports the
entry of Turkey even _less_ than Cyprus (10% as opposed to 15%) and
they've promised to put it to a national referendum. France and Germany
support the entry of Turkey even less than Greece!


If there was a referendum in UK, I doubt if a majority would support UK
being in the EU, never mind anybody else joining the EU.


Well, the anti-EU people would have to do a big job of convincing the
'don't knows'. Recent polls show that 33% think the EU is a 'good
thing'- 25% a 'bad thing.' Most people


Most _other_ people, that is.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
  #14  
Old June 25th, 2007, 01:39 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:14:17 GMT, "William Black"

wrote:


wrote in message
groups.com...

Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.


Like Bulgaria?


LOL SNAP


Let's be brutally honest here.

France and Germany don't want Turkey in the EC, mainly because a Muslim
state would scupper the idea of a 'United States of Europe' forever.

The UK does, mainly because a Muslim state would scupper the idea of a
'United States of Europe' forever...

Now, the newer EC states don't want Turkey in either, mainly because Turks
are brown and Muslim, but they don't like Germany either on the grounds
that Germany invaded a couple of times.

Everyone else seems to have got over the 'German' thing and have 'Don't
mention the war' posted up in big letters in the training schools of their
various foreign ministries but the old ex-Warsaw pact countries are a touch
antediluvian in their view of the world.

So it's a straight fight in Eastern Europe between the people who don't like
the Germans and the people who don't like brown people...

Mind you, at least they're not blaming the Jews...

But if things get bad they will be...

The only reason they're in the EC at all is because that was the price of
getting them 'on side' with NATO.

Oh yes...

And providing somewhere for Western European farmers to buy big cheap farms
as they're all being built on in the West to accommodate all those
immigrants who want decent wages and conditions...


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old June 25th, 2007, 01:42 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Martin wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:37:29 +0100, (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

Martin wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:25:58 +0100,
(David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

[]
Racism probably has something to do with it. EU members are opposed to
Turkey joining, with Hungary, UK, and the Iberian peninsula being more
supportive- Hungary is the only one that edges over 50% support. That
could likely change in the next few years though, in Turkey's favour.
The real sticking points may not even be Cyprus- Austria supports the
entry of Turkey even _less_ than Cyprus (10% as opposed to 15%) and
they've promised to put it to a national referendum. France and Germany
support the entry of Turkey even less than Greece!

If there was a referendum in UK, I doubt if a majority would support UK
being in the EU, never mind anybody else joining the EU.


Well, the anti-EU people would have to do a big job of convincing the
'don't knows'. Recent polls show that 33% think the EU is a 'good
thing'- 25% a 'bad thing.' Most people don't care much either way. I
think a poll would confirm support, though not by a big margin.


Almost everything I see on the subject on Internet emanating from UK is
anti EU.


Which is pretty irrelevant.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
  #16  
Old June 25th, 2007, 01:42 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On 25 jun, 14:35, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:33:02 -0700, wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.


Like Bulgaria?


Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".


Taiwan hasn't applied for EU membership - yet,


Just a matter of time - after all, Israel are in the Eurovision Song
Contest.

B;

  #17  
Old June 25th, 2007, 01:43 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On 25 jun, 14:40, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:37:29 +0100, (David Horne, _the_





chancellor (*)) wrote:
Martin wrote:


On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:25:58 +0100, (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

[]
Racism probably has something to do with it. EU members are opposed to
Turkey joining, with Hungary, UK, and the Iberian peninsula being more
supportive- Hungary is the only one that edges over 50% support. That
could likely change in the next few years though, in Turkey's favour.
The real sticking points may not even be Cyprus- Austria supports the
entry of Turkey even _less_ than Cyprus (10% as opposed to 15%) and
they've promised to put it to a national referendum. France and Germany
support the entry of Turkey even less than Greece!


If there was a referendum in UK, I doubt if a majority would support UK
being in the EU, never mind anybody else joining the EU.


Well, the anti-EU people would have to do a big job of convincing the
'don't knows'. Recent polls show that 33% think the EU is a 'good
thing'- 25% a 'bad thing.' Most people don't care much either way. I
think a poll would confirm support, though not by a big margin.


Almost everything I see on the subject on Internet emanating from UK is anti EU.


You say that like it's a bad thing.

B;

  #18  
Old June 25th, 2007, 01:44 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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William Black wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:14:17 GMT, "William Black"

wrote:


wrote in message
groups.com...

Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.

Like Bulgaria?


LOL SNAP


Let's be brutally honest here.

France and Germany don't want Turkey in the EC, mainly because a Muslim
state would scupper the idea of a 'United States of Europe' forever.

The UK does, mainly because a Muslim state would scupper the idea of a
'United States of Europe' forever...

Now, the newer EC states don't want Turkey in either, mainly because Turks
are brown and Muslim, but they don't like Germany either on the grounds
that Germany invaded a couple of times.


Spain and Portugal are hardly newer EU states, and their support isn't
far behind the UK.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
  #19  
Old June 25th, 2007, 01:48 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Default 17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey

wrote:

On 25 jun, 14:35, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:33:02 -0700, wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.


Like Bulgaria?


Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".


Taiwan hasn't applied for EU membership - yet,


Just a matter of time - after all, Israel are in the Eurovision Song
Contest.


North African countries, Jordan and the Lebanon are eligible to apply
too.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
  #20  
Old June 25th, 2007, 01:49 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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"Martin" wrote in message
...

Almost everything I see on the subject on Internet emanating from UK is
anti EU.


Odd that isn't it.

Because everyone you talk to is all in favour of joining the Euro, getting
rid of passport controls to Europe and all the rest of it.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




 




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