Round the world?

Hiya, Im considering doing the following trip. London - overland China,
(via Russia), fly Thailand, fly Australia, NZ, and back to London. Not sure
about homewards route, perhaps America? Would definatly like to fit in cook
islands, Fiji, or some other tropical place if possible.

The problem is I want to goto South Africa to do some sararis etc. Im not
sure if I can fit it in on my return route, as round the world tickets with
star alliance and one world, dont let u go back on yourself, (and I would
have to fly pass uk, if comming from nz).

I could do South Africa on outward route, but really want to do journey from
London - Russia/china overland.

Any suggestions please?

I am a low-cost student backpacker, so can only afford really cheap flights
etc.

Thanks Phil :-)

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Phil Donachie philip.donachie @ntlworld.com wrote:
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Any suggestions please?

Read about Phileas Fogg or Michael Palin.

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:42:12 +0100, "Phil Donachie" philip.donachie
@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hiya, Im considering doing the following trip. London - overland China,
(via Russia), fly Thailand, fly Australia, NZ, and back to London. Not sure
about homewards route, perhaps America? Would definatly like to fit in cook
islands, Fiji, or some other tropical place if possible.

The problem is I want to goto South Africa to do some sararis etc. Im not
sure if I can fit it in on my return route, as round the world tickets with
star alliance and one world, dont let u go back on yourself, (and I would
have to fly pass uk, if comming from nz).

I could do South Africa on outward route, but really want to do journey from
London - Russia/china overland.

Any suggestions please?

I am a low-cost student backpacker, so can only afford really cheap flights
etc.

Thanks Phil :-)


I don't quite follow how you would be "going back on yourself"

If you actually start flying from Asia, then couldn't Africa be
en-route to Europe at the start or finish? You'd have to check
schedules. Lan-Chile may connect from South America. On my ticket,
positioning flights to leave and arrive at your home port were free
inclusions.

Going "back" with one-world applies between continents, but not
internally. You'll see below we "went back" from Granada to Madrid,
after arriving in Madrid from the Caribbean, and later we went west
from Paris to Dublin. We also did a shorter "back" flight from St
Thomas to San Jose.

As an example, we just did (yeah, I'm showing off, but it was lots of
fun over five months):

Coolangatta - Sydney - LAX; all Qantas.
Drove LA - San Jose.
Then San Jose - Las Vegas - St Louis - New Orleans; all AA.
Drove New Orleans - Washington DC.
Then DC - NYC - St Thomas (US Virgin Islands) - San Jose (Puerto
Rico); all AA.
Then San Jose - Madrid; Iberian.
Train to Granada.
Then Granada - Madrid - Nice; Iberian.
Drove Riviera - Italy - car ferry to Greece - car ferry to Venice -
Trieste - Austria - Czech - Bavaria - Switzerland - Burgundy -
Palatinate - Luxembourg - Belgium - Nederlands - Heidelberg - Paris
(eurodrive).
Then Paris - Dublin - Edinburgh Aer Lingus (train Limerick return).
Drove Edinburgh - Lowlands, Lakes, Yorks, Wales, Cornwall, Oxford. Bus
to London.
then London - Singapore (Qantas, day of the strike at Heathrow!)-
Melbourne(BA) - Coolangatta (Qantas).

Total air cost for two, incl taxes, AU$5812 last Christmas.
Total car hire AU$1500 (3 weeks US, one week Britain), eurodrive Clio
(62 days) AU$1850.
Side flights to the Grand Canyon about US$300 extra.

Have another chat with your travel agent.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
dx May 2002, diet and exercise.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Phil Donachie wrote:

The problem is I want to goto South Africa to do some sararis etc. Im not
sure if I can fit it in on my return route, as round the world tickets with
star alliance and one world, dont let u go back on yourself, (and I would
have to fly pass uk, if comming from nz).

I could do South Africa on outward route, but really want to do journey from
London - Russia/china overland.

Any suggestions please?

BA has a special 'one world' package that allows flights in 'zones'
without specific restriction on which direction you go. You could
use the asia/southern zone and get something like 12 flights IIRC.

I am a low-cost student backpacker, so can only afford really cheap flights
etc.

Ahhh, now, low-cost. Can't help you there. Bucket shops and
throw away portions of flights?

--
Ken Tough

Alan wrote:

If you actually start flying from Asia, then couldn't Africa be
en-route to Europe at the start or finish? You'd have to check
schedules. Lan-Chile may connect from South America. On my ticket,
positioning flights to leave and arrive at your home port were free
inclusions.

Yes, you could use a standard around the world to get to LA,
then overland down to Sao Paolo or Buenos Aires, and from there
get a reasonably cheap package flight from BuAi-SA (well, I assume
so, they're cheap from the Joburg end). The ambitious could then
work their way back from S.America up to New York to finish to
London. (Really cheap fares do not include travel between LA
and NY)

--
Ken Tough

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