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Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to
get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! CLB |
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C L Bailey wrote:
Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! There are singles, but it is heavy with families. Personally, if I were going as a single, I'd pick another family resort. You should also know that the beach there is not recommended for swimming due to currents. -- _Deirdre web: http://deirdre.net blog: http://deirdre.org/blog/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" |
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C L Bailey wrote:
Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! There are singles, but it is heavy with families. Personally, if I were going as a single, I'd pick another family resort. You should also know that the beach there is not recommended for swimming due to currents. -- _Deirdre web: http://deirdre.net blog: http://deirdre.org/blog/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" |
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Moon Palace Experience
Here is a summary of my experience at Moon Palace in Cancun, Mexico. I am writing this as a warning to anyone visiting Cancun to avoid the mistake I made. Let me first state that Moon Palace is an absolutely fabulous resort. It is definitely plush and elegant. The pool, disco, food, entertainment are great. When we first arrived at Moon Palace, we were approached by what appears to be representatives of the hotel who are there to advise you of all the available amenities that the resort has to offer. These representatives are stationed throughout the main lobby. We were already aware that the package we booked through American Airlines included two tours. They advised us that we were invited to a breakfast the next morning and they would show us all Moon Palace had to offer. The next morning, we slept in after staying up late and assumed we missed the breakfast until they called and said that we still had time. We hurriedly got up and ready to meet the representative we had met the day before. She then brought another lady to meet us and tell us that she would be having breakfast with us and tell us all about the Resort. Breakfast was fine and we made small talk with the representative about how we liked Cancun and where we were from and stuff. After finishing breakfast she asked us if we'd like to go on a tour. I am in a wheelchair and she said we would get a golf cart to carry us around the resort so we could see the whole place and the new addition to Moon Palace called Sunrise. We felt this would be great since it would make it easier to get around and discover the places we liked best and where we wanted to spend our time. At this point we were still oblivious to the fact that what we were taking part in was a sales pitch to purchase a membership to the Moon Palace much like a time share purchase. The tour included seeing the Presidential Suites and Sunrise, etc. At the conclusion of the tour, we were taken to this very festive room where many other people were there and we could have drinks or whatever we wanted. Here we realized what was happening but had already been wrapped up in the whole thing. We were told that a membership was normally this exorbitant price but that they were offering this special deal for Founding Members since Moon Palace Sunrise was brand new. Of course we immediately had reservations about this being something we probably could not afford. We were then introduced to a finance manager who was extremely nice. Before it was all over, it was down to a cost that didn't seem too unreasonable since we would have a membership for 20 years and it could be financed with monthly payments. We were advised that we would have to make a down payment though of about 15%. We told them we didn't have the resources with us to make a down payment. Then they asked if we had credit cards. We were told that they could get a portion of the down payment on a credit card and that after we got home we could do the rest with a check or whatever-they trusted us. We handed them several credit cards since we were unsure of credit limits on certain cards and such. This was a MISTAKE!!!! By this time, we should have just got up and left and said we were not interested. After we were pretty much sold on the deal we were told that as members we got to come to the resort at special "preferred rates". This was the first we had heard of this part of the deal. We were told that we would have access to the Presidential Suites and such and eligible for free weeks after making so many payments and the like. We went ahead with the deal anyway signing a contract and everything without too much time to look it over and think about it. Basically, we made a very DUMB decision. By this time we were just ready to get out of there and get to the pool since this was our first day in Cancun. Immediately, we started discussing what we had done and that we probably could not really afford all this and got caught up in all the glamour of the resort. Also looking over the "preferred rates" we determined that they really were not all that special since we came to Cancun on an American Airline package which included airfare, airport transfers and everything. As members we would have to pay the preferred rates plus our own air and transfers. Basically, this was NO DEAL. Unfortunately, this ruined the rest of our vacation second guessing what we had done. We approached the finance manager and expressed our thoughts, but he convinced us that this was an excellent deal and that he gave us a much better deal that others were getting. Boy, were we gullible?? Before leaving Cancun, I approached the finance manager one more time and expressed that we had thought it over and really wanted to cancel the membership. He convinced me to wait until I got home and he would call me on Sunday or Monday at the latest and discuss whether we still wanted to cancel. BIG, BIG MISTAKE!!!! When we got home, we had a message on our answering machine from one of our credit card companies warning us of what theat thought might be fraudulent activity-but the charges had been denied. It seems they had attempted to charge a total of $28,000 US dollars but all were denied. This was enough to tell me not to trust this company. At no time did we authorize this amount. Only a down payment amount. I immediately tried to call the finance manager on Monday since he had not called on Sunday. I was told he was not in. I called back and attempted to speak with the lady we met with when we signed the contract. I was never allowed to talk with her. I called back for the next several days attempting to speak with either one but was either placed on hold indefinitely or bounced from one person to another. We immediately placed the other charges for the down payment in dispute with out credit card companies. I also faxed a letter to them (number on business card) expressing our desire to cancel. Finally, several weeks later a representative from Moon Palace contacted us to see if we were going to make the payments. I advised them of my fax and that we decided we could not afford this membership. I was told they did not receive my fax and that the contract made no provision for cancellation. I immediately faxed another copy of the letter. This was the last I heard from them. My credit card a visa card honored the dispute and credited my account back. My roommate had used two credit cards a visa and a MasterCard. The visa account was credited but MasterCard refused since they said it was buyer's remorse. We chalked this up to a lesson learned and a little loss of money. We didn't hear anything back until several weeks ago. We had a "courtesy call" from a collection agency in Mobile, Alabama calling to see how we intended to handle this situation. We were advised that they were doing the background legal work for Palace Resorts and that they intended to pursue this legally. We were told that we had several days to call them back and make a payment to bring our account up to date or else that would take it to the next level and investigate our credit history, our places of employment and in comes, etc.. If we did not make a payment the account would had much additional fees such as legal fees, penalties and such. The representative advised me that I would LOSE if this went to court and that the Mexican contract would be forced to be honored. I contacted several lawyers seeking advice and was told that it would be difficult for them to enforce that contract here. They felt that the contract should have a recission period. I have not retained an attorney yet but did decide I am not paying anything more yet. I am sending a letter detailing all events to the collection agency along with all documentation-letter expressing desire to cancel and such and advising them not to contact me again, under the Fair Debt Collection Act. I guess at this point I am in a wait and see mode. I mainly wanted to put this in writing to hopefully WARN others to just avoid meeting with the representatives. It isn't worth it and you will end up regretting it. Enjoy your vacation and don't get involved. "C L Bailey" wrote in message ... Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! CLB |
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Cletus Stripling wrote:
Here is a summary of my experience at Moon Palace in Cancun, Mexico. I am writing this as a warning to anyone visiting Cancun to avoid the mistake I made. This is one of the reasons that I'm glad that my former employer (Classic Custom Vacations) has an agreement with all the places they represent, including Palace Resorts, that they will NOT solicit customers for time shares. Ugh! I'm sorry for the problems you had. -- _Deirdre web: http://deirdre.net blog: http://deirdre.org/blog/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" |
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Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote in message ...
C L Bailey wrote: Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! There are singles, but it is heavy with families. Personally, if I were going as a single, I'd pick another family resort. You should also know that the beach there is not recommended for swimming due to currents. Thanks for the tip on the currents, I had no idea, are they rip tides? By the way the reason I am going to a family resort is because I am a single dad, and this is my son's birthday trip this year. So I am aware that it is supposed to be fun for him, I was just wondering what I could look forward to while over there. CLB |
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Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote in message ...
C L Bailey wrote: Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! There are singles, but it is heavy with families. Personally, if I were going as a single, I'd pick another family resort. You should also know that the beach there is not recommended for swimming due to currents. Thanks for the tip on the currents, I had no idea, are they rip tides? By the way the reason I am going to a family resort is because I am a single dad, and this is my son's birthday trip this year. So I am aware that it is supposed to be fun for him, I was just wondering what I could look forward to while over there. CLB |
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Cletus, I don't know when you and your roommate had this experience
but my wife and I had the exact same experience earlier this year (2004), except we were 'hijacked' at the airport by one of their drones. We had a nice, easy week planned elsewhere but fell victim to their spiel. We were told by someone we thought worked at the airport (they were behind one of the airport counters, badge and all) that if we went to see this 'new' Palace Resort (we later found out it was a couple of years old) we could get 4 tourist tours for free ($50 deposit required) instead of the $280 list price. I guess we thought it was a government (Mexico) kind of way to get tourists to take a closer look at their country. As we hadn't made any specific plans, we thought this would be a good deal. All we had to to was 'look' at the property. We asked if it was a timeshare and were told no (found out it's a 'charter' membership). We asked if we would have to sit through any presentations and we were told no. When we got there the next morning and found out we would have to go through a presentation but it was only about 'an hour or so', we agreed. No need to go into the gory details as they pretty much mimic yours. If my children ever find out I fell for this scam, they would never let me forget it. DAD! How could you be so stupid?!? WARNING: the Palace Premier corporation (Palace Resorts) and their 'charter memberships' are hazardous to your wealth! I'm amazed the government of Mexico/Cancun would allow such hucksters to operate at the airport and if this 'dispute' gets to the courts, I will definitely be involving the Mexico/Cancun government and the US State Department in this whole affair. P.S. It was our first trip to Mexico. P.P.S. It was our LAST TRIP TO MEXICO! "Cletus Stripling" wrote in message ... Moon Palace Experience Here is a summary of my experience at Moon Palace in Cancun, Mexico. I am writing this as a warning to anyone visiting Cancun to avoid the mistake I made. Let me first state that Moon Palace is an absolutely fabulous resort. It is definitely plush and elegant. The pool, disco, food, entertainment are great. When we first arrived at Moon Palace, we were approached by what appears to be representatives of the hotel who are there to advise you of all the available amenities that the resort has to offer. These representatives are stationed throughout the main lobby. We were already aware that the package we booked through American Airlines included two tours. They advised us that we were invited to a breakfast the next morning and they would show us all Moon Palace had to offer. The next morning, we slept in after staying up late and assumed we missed the breakfast until they called and said that we still had time. We hurriedly got up and ready to meet the representative we had met the day before. She then brought another lady to meet us and tell us that she would be having breakfast with us and tell us all about the Resort. Breakfast was fine and we made small talk with the representative about how we liked Cancun and where we were from and stuff. After finishing breakfast she asked us if we'd like to go on a tour. I am in a wheelchair and she said we would get a golf cart to carry us around the resort so we could see the whole place and the new addition to Moon Palace called Sunrise. We felt this would be great since it would make it easier to get around and discover the places we liked best and where we wanted to spend our time. At this point we were still oblivious to the fact that what we were taking part in was a sales pitch to purchase a membership to the Moon Palace much like a time share purchase. The tour included seeing the Presidential Suites and Sunrise, etc. At the conclusion of the tour, we were taken to this very festive room where many other people were there and we could have drinks or whatever we wanted. Here we realized what was happening but had already been wrapped up in the whole thing. We were told that a membership was normally this exorbitant price but that they were offering this special deal for Founding Members since Moon Palace Sunrise was brand new. Of course we immediately had reservations about this being something we probably could not afford. We were then introduced to a finance manager who was extremely nice. Before it was all over, it was down to a cost that didn't seem too unreasonable since we would have a membership for 20 years and it could be financed with monthly payments. We were advised that we would have to make a down payment though of about 15%. We told them we didn't have the resources with us to make a down payment. Then they asked if we had credit cards. We were told that they could get a portion of the down payment on a credit card and that after we got home we could do the rest with a check or whatever-they trusted us. We handed them several credit cards since we were unsure of credit limits on certain cards and such. This was a MISTAKE!!!! By this time, we should have just got up and left and said we were not interested. After we were pretty much sold on the deal we were told that as members we got to come to the resort at special "preferred rates". This was the first we had heard of this part of the deal. We were told that we would have access to the Presidential Suites and such and eligible for free weeks after making so many payments and the like. We went ahead with the deal anyway signing a contract and everything without too much time to look it over and think about it. Basically, we made a very DUMB decision. By this time we were just ready to get out of there and get to the pool since this was our first day in Cancun. Immediately, we started discussing what we had done and that we probably could not really afford all this and got caught up in all the glamour of the resort. Also looking over the "preferred rates" we determined that they really were not all that special since we came to Cancun on an American Airline package which included airfare, airport transfers and everything. As members we would have to pay the preferred rates plus our own air and transfers. Basically, this was NO DEAL. Unfortunately, this ruined the rest of our vacation second guessing what we had done. We approached the finance manager and expressed our thoughts, but he convinced us that this was an excellent deal and that he gave us a much better deal that others were getting. Boy, were we gullible?? Before leaving Cancun, I approached the finance manager one more time and expressed that we had thought it over and really wanted to cancel the membership. He convinced me to wait until I got home and he would call me on Sunday or Monday at the latest and discuss whether we still wanted to cancel. BIG, BIG MISTAKE!!!! When we got home, we had a message on our answering machine from one of our credit card companies warning us of what theat thought might be fraudulent activity-but the charges had been denied. It seems they had attempted to charge a total of $28,000 US dollars but all were denied. This was enough to tell me not to trust this company. At no time did we authorize this amount. Only a down payment amount. I immediately tried to call the finance manager on Monday since he had not called on Sunday. I was told he was not in. I called back and attempted to speak with the lady we met with when we signed the contract. I was never allowed to talk with her. I called back for the next several days attempting to speak with either one but was either placed on hold indefinitely or bounced from one person to another. We immediately placed the other charges for the down payment in dispute with out credit card companies. I also faxed a letter to them (number on business card) expressing our desire to cancel. Finally, several weeks later a representative from Moon Palace contacted us to see if we were going to make the payments. I advised them of my fax and that we decided we could not afford this membership. I was told they did not receive my fax and that the contract made no provision for cancellation. I immediately faxed another copy of the letter. This was the last I heard from them. My credit card a visa card honored the dispute and credited my account back. My roommate had used two credit cards a visa and a MasterCard. The visa account was credited but MasterCard refused since they said it was buyer's remorse. We chalked this up to a lesson learned and a little loss of money. We didn't hear anything back until several weeks ago. We had a "courtesy call" from a collection agency in Mobile, Alabama calling to see how we intended to handle this situation. We were advised that they were doing the background legal work for Palace Resorts and that they intended to pursue this legally. We were told that we had several days to call them back and make a payment to bring our account up to date or else that would take it to the next level and investigate our credit history, our places of employment and in comes, etc.. If we did not make a payment the account would had much additional fees such as legal fees, penalties and such. The representative advised me that I would LOSE if this went to court and that the Mexican contract would be forced to be honored. I contacted several lawyers seeking advice and was told that it would be difficult for them to enforce that contract here. They felt that the contract should have a recission period. I have not retained an attorney yet but did decide I am not paying anything more yet. I am sending a letter detailing all events to the collection agency along with all documentation-letter expressing desire to cancel and such and advising them not to contact me again, under the Fair Debt Collection Act. I guess at this point I am in a wait and see mode. I mainly wanted to put this in writing to hopefully WARN others to just avoid meeting with the representatives. It isn't worth it and you will end up regretting it. Enjoy your vacation and don't get involved. "C L Bailey" wrote in message ... Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! CLB |
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Cletus, I don't know when you and your roommate had this experience
but my wife and I had the exact same experience earlier this year (2004), except we were 'hijacked' at the airport by one of their drones. We had a nice, easy week planned elsewhere but fell victim to their spiel. We were told by someone we thought worked at the airport (they were behind one of the airport counters, badge and all) that if we went to see this 'new' Palace Resort (we later found out it was a couple of years old) we could get 4 tourist tours for free ($50 deposit required) instead of the $280 list price. I guess we thought it was a government (Mexico) kind of way to get tourists to take a closer look at their country. As we hadn't made any specific plans, we thought this would be a good deal. All we had to to was 'look' at the property. We asked if it was a timeshare and were told no (found out it's a 'charter' membership). We asked if we would have to sit through any presentations and we were told no. When we got there the next morning and found out we would have to go through a presentation but it was only about 'an hour or so', we agreed. No need to go into the gory details as they pretty much mimic yours. If my children ever find out I fell for this scam, they would never let me forget it. DAD! How could you be so stupid?!? WARNING: the Palace Premier corporation (Palace Resorts) and their 'charter memberships' are hazardous to your wealth! I'm amazed the government of Mexico/Cancun would allow such hucksters to operate at the airport and if this 'dispute' gets to the courts, I will definitely be involving the Mexico/Cancun government and the US State Department in this whole affair. P.S. It was our first trip to Mexico. P.P.S. It was our LAST TRIP TO MEXICO! "Cletus Stripling" wrote in message ... Moon Palace Experience Here is a summary of my experience at Moon Palace in Cancun, Mexico. I am writing this as a warning to anyone visiting Cancun to avoid the mistake I made. Let me first state that Moon Palace is an absolutely fabulous resort. It is definitely plush and elegant. The pool, disco, food, entertainment are great. When we first arrived at Moon Palace, we were approached by what appears to be representatives of the hotel who are there to advise you of all the available amenities that the resort has to offer. These representatives are stationed throughout the main lobby. We were already aware that the package we booked through American Airlines included two tours. They advised us that we were invited to a breakfast the next morning and they would show us all Moon Palace had to offer. The next morning, we slept in after staying up late and assumed we missed the breakfast until they called and said that we still had time. We hurriedly got up and ready to meet the representative we had met the day before. She then brought another lady to meet us and tell us that she would be having breakfast with us and tell us all about the Resort. Breakfast was fine and we made small talk with the representative about how we liked Cancun and where we were from and stuff. After finishing breakfast she asked us if we'd like to go on a tour. I am in a wheelchair and she said we would get a golf cart to carry us around the resort so we could see the whole place and the new addition to Moon Palace called Sunrise. We felt this would be great since it would make it easier to get around and discover the places we liked best and where we wanted to spend our time. At this point we were still oblivious to the fact that what we were taking part in was a sales pitch to purchase a membership to the Moon Palace much like a time share purchase. The tour included seeing the Presidential Suites and Sunrise, etc. At the conclusion of the tour, we were taken to this very festive room where many other people were there and we could have drinks or whatever we wanted. Here we realized what was happening but had already been wrapped up in the whole thing. We were told that a membership was normally this exorbitant price but that they were offering this special deal for Founding Members since Moon Palace Sunrise was brand new. Of course we immediately had reservations about this being something we probably could not afford. We were then introduced to a finance manager who was extremely nice. Before it was all over, it was down to a cost that didn't seem too unreasonable since we would have a membership for 20 years and it could be financed with monthly payments. We were advised that we would have to make a down payment though of about 15%. We told them we didn't have the resources with us to make a down payment. Then they asked if we had credit cards. We were told that they could get a portion of the down payment on a credit card and that after we got home we could do the rest with a check or whatever-they trusted us. We handed them several credit cards since we were unsure of credit limits on certain cards and such. This was a MISTAKE!!!! By this time, we should have just got up and left and said we were not interested. After we were pretty much sold on the deal we were told that as members we got to come to the resort at special "preferred rates". This was the first we had heard of this part of the deal. We were told that we would have access to the Presidential Suites and such and eligible for free weeks after making so many payments and the like. We went ahead with the deal anyway signing a contract and everything without too much time to look it over and think about it. Basically, we made a very DUMB decision. By this time we were just ready to get out of there and get to the pool since this was our first day in Cancun. Immediately, we started discussing what we had done and that we probably could not really afford all this and got caught up in all the glamour of the resort. Also looking over the "preferred rates" we determined that they really were not all that special since we came to Cancun on an American Airline package which included airfare, airport transfers and everything. As members we would have to pay the preferred rates plus our own air and transfers. Basically, this was NO DEAL. Unfortunately, this ruined the rest of our vacation second guessing what we had done. We approached the finance manager and expressed our thoughts, but he convinced us that this was an excellent deal and that he gave us a much better deal that others were getting. Boy, were we gullible?? Before leaving Cancun, I approached the finance manager one more time and expressed that we had thought it over and really wanted to cancel the membership. He convinced me to wait until I got home and he would call me on Sunday or Monday at the latest and discuss whether we still wanted to cancel. BIG, BIG MISTAKE!!!! When we got home, we had a message on our answering machine from one of our credit card companies warning us of what theat thought might be fraudulent activity-but the charges had been denied. It seems they had attempted to charge a total of $28,000 US dollars but all were denied. This was enough to tell me not to trust this company. At no time did we authorize this amount. Only a down payment amount. I immediately tried to call the finance manager on Monday since he had not called on Sunday. I was told he was not in. I called back and attempted to speak with the lady we met with when we signed the contract. I was never allowed to talk with her. I called back for the next several days attempting to speak with either one but was either placed on hold indefinitely or bounced from one person to another. We immediately placed the other charges for the down payment in dispute with out credit card companies. I also faxed a letter to them (number on business card) expressing our desire to cancel. Finally, several weeks later a representative from Moon Palace contacted us to see if we were going to make the payments. I advised them of my fax and that we decided we could not afford this membership. I was told they did not receive my fax and that the contract made no provision for cancellation. I immediately faxed another copy of the letter. This was the last I heard from them. My credit card a visa card honored the dispute and credited my account back. My roommate had used two credit cards a visa and a MasterCard. The visa account was credited but MasterCard refused since they said it was buyer's remorse. We chalked this up to a lesson learned and a little loss of money. We didn't hear anything back until several weeks ago. We had a "courtesy call" from a collection agency in Mobile, Alabama calling to see how we intended to handle this situation. We were advised that they were doing the background legal work for Palace Resorts and that they intended to pursue this legally. We were told that we had several days to call them back and make a payment to bring our account up to date or else that would take it to the next level and investigate our credit history, our places of employment and in comes, etc.. If we did not make a payment the account would had much additional fees such as legal fees, penalties and such. The representative advised me that I would LOSE if this went to court and that the Mexican contract would be forced to be honored. I contacted several lawyers seeking advice and was told that it would be difficult for them to enforce that contract here. They felt that the contract should have a recission period. I have not retained an attorney yet but did decide I am not paying anything more yet. I am sending a letter detailing all events to the collection agency along with all documentation-letter expressing desire to cancel and such and advising them not to contact me again, under the Fair Debt Collection Act. I guess at this point I am in a wait and see mode. I mainly wanted to put this in writing to hopefully WARN others to just avoid meeting with the representatives. It isn't worth it and you will end up regretting it. Enjoy your vacation and don't get involved. "C L Bailey" wrote in message ... Any idea if the Moon Palace is all families or are there singles, to get together with and party? Any input would be great I am going there for some R&R and would like to know if I have to leave the resort to find some company or not! CLB |
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C L Bailey wrote:
You should also know that the beach there is not recommended for swimming due to currents. Thanks for the tip on the currents, I had no idea, are they rip tides? Rip tides are a fairly rare occurrence. I think it's more likely undertow. -- _Deirdre web: http://deirdre.net blog: http://deirdre.org/blog/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" |
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