Ind: Neo-Nazis hijack Dresden ceremony in the biggest far-rightdemonstration since Hitler

Neo-Nazis hijack Dresden ceremony in the biggest far-right demonstration
since Hitler
By Tony Paterson in Dresden

The Independent
14 February 2005

Thousands of neo-Nazis hijacked official ceremonies marking the 60th
anniversary of the Allied bombing of Dresden yesterday in the biggest
demonstration by the German far right since the Second World War. More than
5,000 neo-Nazis overran the east German city with a mass protest against
"Anglo-American bomb terror".

The scale of the fascist turnout, although predicted, came as a major
embarrassment to the city and the government of the Chancellor, Gerhard
Schröder. Both had hoped that the anniversary would be dominated by gestures
of reconciliation.

Instead, a crowd of neo-Nazis bused in from all over Germany gathered behind
Dresden's rebuilt Semper Opera House to hold a "funeral rally and march".
The British and the Americans were bitterly criticised for the raid in
February 1945 which was described as a "bomb holocaust" and example of
"Anglo-American terror".

Holger Apfel, 33, leader of the far-right National Democratic Party (NPD),
which won seats in the Saxony state parliament in Dresden last October,
appeared with other neo-Nazi leaders to denounce the British and Americans
as "mass murderers and gangsters".

"They have left a trail of blood that stretches from Dresden to Korea,
Vietnam, Iraq and possibly Iran," Mr Apfel told the crowd to enthusiastic
applause and chants of "murderers". He added: "We must not allow Germany to
become the accomplices of American gangster policy."

Waving black banners and black balloons, with the slogan "bomb terror", the
neo-Nazis also accused post-war Germany and the Allies of deliberately
downplaying the number of deaths caused by the bombing which officially
stands at 35,000. On numerous placards written in Nazi-style Gothic script,
they claimed that the figure was 350,000.

The far right also flouted German law by singing a folk version of the
banned verse of the national anthem.

Hundreds of left-wing anti-Nazi protesters headed by an organisation called
"No Tears for Krauts" attempted to shout down the neo-Nazis with whistles
and catcalls. They were kept at bay by thousands of riot police equipped
with water cannon who had been brought in from throughout south-east
Germany.

Earlier, neo-Nazis managed to overshadow a wreath-laying ceremony attended
by Jewish community leaders and the British and American ambassadors at the
city's Heidehof cemetery, where the ashes of thousands of Dresdeners killed
during the raid lie buried.

Groups of shaven-headed men in leather jackets and other apparently middle
class neo-Nazi supporters formed up in silence and laid their own wreaths at
the site. They bore white ribbons with slogans such as "Dresden not
forgotten, not forgiven".

One of the placards on show at the ceremony depicted a German woman fighting
her way through the rubble of Dresden clinging on to two badly mutilated and
bloodstained children. The neo-Nazi presence was particularly galling for
the Dresden city government as the anniversary had been intended as a major
gesture of reconciliation and as a sign that Germany had finally put the
Second World War behind it. To mark the occasion, the city had opened its
painstakingly restored Frauenkirche cathedral, whose ruins were once a
symbol of the city's destruction. Its rebuilding has only just been
completed, funded by donations from Britain and other countries.

The people of Dresden had been urged by the city authorities to wear white
roses in their buttonholes to demonstrate reconciliation. But many neo-Nazis
chose to wear the emblems as well. Recent opinion polls show that up to 30
per cent of young Germans view the Dresden raid as comparable to the
Holocaust.

Churchmen in Dresden have blamed hostility to the Allies on East German
Communist propaganda which for decades held that the raid was a needless act
of "Anglo-American aggression" inflicted on innocent civilians.

Ingolf Rossberg, Dresden's Mayor, said yesterday that it had been impossible
to ban the neo-Nazi demonstrations. "So long as the NPD is an established
political party with seats in a state parliament, we cannot ban it from
holding marches," he said.

Edmund Stoiber, the Bavarian Prime Minister, accused Mr Schröder of creating
a breeding ground for the far right by allowing unemployment, which stands
at five million, to spiral to record levels.

Chancellor Schröder appealed to Germans to reject neo-Nazi interpretations
of the Dresden raid. "Showing historical responsibility means not weighing
crimes against suffering," he said. "I always remember how much suffering
Germany caused to others by a war that it started."

Mr Schröder's government has announced plans to curb the activities of the
far right, but none of the measures were in place to prevent yesterday's
march. The Chancellor also declared that his government was redoubling its
efforts to ban the NPD. Two years ago an initial attempt to outlaw the party
through the country's constitutional court in Karlsrühe ended in failure.
Judges ruled that secret service informers whose evidence was used against
the party had acted as "agents provocateurs".


http://news.independent.co.uk/europe...p?story=610866

It's a pity the fascists weren't as brutal as the Communists.

These individuals spewing such garbage as "No Tears for Krauts", should
be arrested, and summarily executed -- Soviet style.

Biwah wrote:
Neo-Nazis hijack Dresden ceremony in the biggest far-right
demonstration
since Hitler
By Tony Paterson in Dresden

The Independent
14 February 2005

Thousands of neo-Nazis hijacked official ceremonies marking the 60th
anniversary of the Allied bombing of Dresden yesterday in the biggest
demonstration by the German far right since the Second World War.
More than
5,000 neo-Nazis overran the east German city with a mass protest
against
"Anglo-American bomb terror".

Excellent. Hopefully other Europeans will learn to stick up for
themsleves as well.


The scale of the fascist turnout, although predicted, came as a major
embarrassment to the city and the government of the Chancellor,
Gerhard
Schr=F6der. Both had hoped that the anniversary would be dominated by
gestures
of reconciliation.

Schroeder is to blame for the inflamatory response of the neo-Nazis.
He would appologise for a German having breathed if he though he could
snivell some political milage out of it. He really is an idiot in the
way he sells out his people at every opportunity to political
correctness at every turn.

I can imagine the thought of the sychophantic Schroeder or that idiot
fischer doing another 'ceremony' is enough to make a great many Germans
vomit.

wrote:
Excellent. Hopefully other Europeans will learn to stick up for
themsleves as well.


The scale of the fascist turnout, although predicted, came as a
major
embarrassment to the city and the government of the Chancellor,
Gerhard
Schr=F6der. Both had hoped that the anniversary would be dominated
by
gestures
of reconciliation.

Schroeder is to blame for the inflamatory response of the neo-Nazis.
He would appologise for a German having breathed if he though he
could
snivell some political milage out of it. He really is an idiot in
the
way he sells out his people at every opportunity to political
correctness at every turn.

I can imagine the thought of the sychophantic Schroeder or that idiot
fischer doing another 'ceremony' is enough to make a great many
Germans
vomit.


Lest we forget, Germany is still an occupied nation. Literally and
figuratively.

Europe has been in rapid decline since World War II. European
politicians are allowing their people to be displaced by 'immigrants'
-- but will gladly imprison any European who questions these
destructive policies. The Brits, for example, are being squeezed out
the great cities built by their ancestors.
(http://www.webindia123.com/news/show...date=3D200502=
11&cat=3Dworld)

If Europe is to survive, communist idealogies must be smashed, and
fascism revived. From Russia to Spain, and from Italy to Norway,
nationalist idealogies must triumph. Not only in Germany this time.
There exists throughout Europe nationalist parties -- these are the
last hope of Europe. Survival must have precedence over sentimentality.

"aether" wrote:

Lest we forget, Germany is still an occupied nation. Literally and
figuratively.

Yeah. It's occupied by Germans.

Europe has been in rapid decline since World War II. European
politicians are allowing their people to be displaced by 'immigrants'
-- but will gladly imprison any European who questions these
destructive policies. The Brits, for example, are being squeezed out
the great cities built by their ancestors.
(http://www.webindia123.com/news/show...0211&cat=world)

Cities made great by the proceeds of empire. Now the empire is coming
home.

If Europe is to survive, communist idealogies must be smashed, and
fascism revived. From Russia to Spain, and from Italy to Norway,
nationalist idealogies must triumph.

Like Serbian nationalism? Like Basque nationalism? Like Irish
Nationalism? Or do you simply mean White nationalism?

Not only in Germany this time.
There exists throughout Europe nationalist parties -- these are the
last hope of Europe. Survival must have precedence over sentimentality.

And humanity must have precedence over nationalism.

I suppose that I am wasting my time responding to this post.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED

Padraig Breathnach wrote:
"aether" wrote:

Lest we forget, Germany is still an occupied nation. Literally and
figuratively.

Yeah. It's occupied by Germans.

There are foreign troops on German soil. That would qualify as literal
occupation.



Cities made great by the proceeds of empire. Now the empire is coming
home.

The British are the empire. What you refer to as the "empire coming
home", is nothing more than third world rif raf.



Like Serbian nationalism? Like Basque nationalism? Like Irish
Nationalism? Or do you simply mean White nationalism?

All of the above. As I said, it can't be one nation alone this time
around. All of Europe's defenders must work together. There's alot to
be done. This is the beginning.



And humanity must have precedence over nationalism.

It's interesting to note, how service to 'humanity' must necessarily
entail European extinction. Migration from these banana republics
leaves not a dent in their population growth or suffering -- but will
destroy Western civilization. If you're so interested in caring for the
helpless, teeming masses of Africa and Asia, who breed like mosquitoes
and live like animals, join a volunteer group, get your vaccinations,
and go.

"aether" wrote:

Padraig Breathnach wrote:
"aether" wrote:

Lest we forget, Germany is still an occupied nation. Literally and
figuratively.

Yeah. It's occupied by Germans.

There are foreign troops on German soil. That would qualify as literal
occupation.

They are there with the consent of the German government.

Cities made great by the proceeds of empire. Now the empire is coming
home.

The British are the empire. What you refer to as the "empire coming
home", is nothing more than third world rif raf.

A great part of the prosperity of a number of European states, Britain
included, is based on the exploitation of colonies to the disadvantage
of the indigenous population of those lands. So now the people are
going where their wealth went before them.

Like Serbian nationalism? Like Basque nationalism? Like Irish
Nationalism? Or do you simply mean White nationalism?

All of the above. As I said, it can't be one nation alone this time
around.

Not one nation alone? How many? Which ones?

All of Europe's defenders must work together. There's alot to
be done. This is the beginning.

Who the **** are "all of Europe's defenders"? Do you mean the
shaven-headed short-necked small-eyed thugs who comprise the BNP, the
FN, the NPD, and their ilk?

And humanity must have precedence over nationalism.

It's interesting to note, how service to 'humanity' must necessarily
entail European extinction. Migration from these banana republics
leaves not a dent in their population growth or suffering -- but will
destroy Western civilization. If you're so interested in caring for the
helpless, teeming masses of Africa and Asia, who breed like mosquitoes
and live like animals, join a volunteer group, get your vaccinations,
and go.

********. You have no idea what I do in response to the problems in
the world. But obviously you want me out of Europe because I disagree
with you. That's a poor way to defend your, or anybody's, idea of
Western civilisation: we have moved on from such primitive tribal
ideas -- well, most of us have.

I see myself as human first, and of a nation only for the purposes of
paying taxes, benefitting from state services, voting, and deciding
who I would prefer to win when there is a football game on.

--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED

aether wrote:
"aether" wrote:


It's interesting to note, how service to 'humanity' must necessarily
entail European extinction. Migration from these banana republics
leaves not a dent in their population growth or suffering -- but will
destroy Western civilization. If you're so interested in caring for
the
helpless, teeming masses of Africa and Asia, who breed like
mosquitoes
and live like animals, join a volunteer group, get your vaccinations,
and go.


I consider myself an 'environmentalist', or conservationist. (common
sense) Forgive me for the comparison with animals. They're not animals;
they're subhuman.

It's apparent you could care less about the future of Ireland, much
less Europe. You're an empty shell who I'm done conversing with.

The future of Ireland, if everyone were as indifferent as Padraig:

http://www.waterford-news.ie/news/story.asp?j=16842
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/8397...Killi ng.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3618590.stm
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/002081.html

Lest we forget the limey's:

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/e...05/leeds.riot/
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/e...dford.injured/
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/e...nley.violence/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1702799.stm

Of course, it's wrong for Europeans to resist this invasion of
foreigners. That would be intolerant. Diversity is a strength,
remember. Who wouldn't want to be a minority in their own country?

Those politicians responsible for allowing this invasion, should be
arrested, and tried for treason.