US airports: 'menacing, cramped and devoid of humanity'

Martin wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:17:54 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

"tim....." wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
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Martin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:32:32 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
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Are you going to tell us exactly what happened to you at Heathrow? I've used
all the London Airports, except Luton, Stansted and Southend, many times,
without ever having had a problem.

It's exhausting

as is any large airport where you land(/TO) at the far end of a pier.

This is just down to luck. It can happen at FRA, for example

and apparently has no water fountains,

it does now

just machines
requiring English coins,

and the shuttle buses between terminals in the airport in New York only accept
dollars. Somebody had to lend/give me the fare because there was nowhere to
change money in the terminal that European incoming flights used.

Revenge for Heathrow, perhaps! 8-)

Just consistent with Heathrow, :-)

I grumble about the size of O'Hare in Chicago, but there are water
fountains.
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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

Mike O'Sullivan wrote:
On 18/06/2014 19:21, James Silverton wrote:

Oh, I know that, but I can't drive on what for me is the wrong side. I'd
probably have an accident before getting away from the airport!

If you feel that way, it might be best not to drive. I was in Sweden
when they switched from driving on the left to driving on the right. It
was not too chaotic. There's no truth to the story that even license
plates did it on Saturday and odds the following Sunday.

I believe that contrary to dire predictions, deaths and injuries on the
roads actually dropped.

Perhaps drivers were nervous and thus more alert?

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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"Erilar" wrote in message
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Martin wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:17:54 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

"tim....." wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
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Martin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:32:32 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

.

Are you going to tell us exactly what happened to you at Heathrow?
I've used
all the London Airports, except Luton, Stansted and Southend, many
times,
without ever having had a problem.

It's exhausting

as is any large airport where you land(/TO) at the far end of a pier.

This is just down to luck. It can happen at FRA, for example

and apparently has no water fountains,

it does now

just machines
requiring English coins,

and the shuttle buses between terminals in the airport in New York only
accept
dollars. Somebody had to lend/give me the fare because there was
nowhere to
change money in the terminal that European incoming flights used.

Revenge for Heathrow, perhaps! 8-)

Just consistent with Heathrow, :-)

I grumble about the size of O'Hare in Chicago, but there are water
fountains.

I don't know why you have singled out LHR for not having water fountains
just because American airports do.

IME most European ones don't, it isn't (wasn't) just London

tim


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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"Erilar" wrote in message
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Martin wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:17:54 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

"tim....." wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
Martin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:32:32 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

.

Are you going to tell us exactly what happened to you at Heathrow?
I've used
all the London Airports, except Luton, Stansted and Southend, many
times,
without ever having had a problem.

It's exhausting

as is any large airport where you land(/TO) at the far end of a pier.

This is just down to luck. It can happen at FRA, for example

and apparently has no water fountains,

it does now

just machines
requiring English coins,

and the shuttle buses between terminals in the airport in New York only
accept
dollars. Somebody had to lend/give me the fare because there was
nowhere to
change money in the terminal that European incoming flights used.

Revenge for Heathrow, perhaps! 8-)

Just consistent with Heathrow, :-)

I grumble about the size of O'Hare in Chicago, but there are water
fountains.

I may not be a typical traveller, but the availability or otherwise of water
fountains has never figured at all in my evaluation of Airports. Has Erilar
even flown into, or out of Geneva. There is a GIGANTIC water fountain quite
near the Airport.

--
JohnT

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:11:30 +0100, "JohnT" wrote:


"Erilar" wrote in message
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Martin wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:17:54 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

wrote:

"tim....." wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
Martin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:32:32 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

.

Are you going to tell us exactly what happened to you at
Heathrow?
I've used
all the London Airports, except Luton, Stansted and Southend,
many
times,
without ever having had a problem.

It's exhausting

as is any large airport where you land(/TO) at the far end of a
pier.

This is just down to luck. It can happen at FRA, for example

and apparently has no water fountains,

it does now

just machines
requiring English coins,

and the shuttle buses between terminals in the airport in New York
only
accept
dollars. Somebody had to lend/give me the fare because there was
nowhere to
change money in the terminal that European incoming flights used.

Revenge for Heathrow, perhaps! 8-)

Just consistent with Heathrow, :-)

I grumble about the size of O'Hare in Chicago, but there are water
fountains.

I may not be a typical traveller, but the availability or otherwise of
water
fountains has never figured at all in my evaluation of Airports. Has
Erilar
even flown into, or out of Geneva. There is a GIGANTIC water fountain
quite
near the Airport.

+1

I was going to recommend the gardens of the Palace of Versailles, but I
know how
she feels about the French.

Woodrow Wilson spent a lot of time there, but the US Senate refused to
ratify his Treaty.

--
JohnT

On 20/06/2014 09:35, Martin wrote:


I think that everybody was driving with excessive caution. Don't know
how long it lasted.

It must have been a major problem until all the RH drive cars ended up in scrap
yards or were exported to UK.

No that's the interesting thing - for years all cars made in Sweden had
been left-hand drive vehicles, for export of course, and presumably in
anticipation of the inevitable changeover.

"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ...

I grumble about the size of O'Hare in Chicago, but there are water
fountains.

I may not be a typical traveller, but the availability or otherwise of
water fountains has never figured at all in my evaluation of Airports.
Has Erilar even flown into, or out of Geneva. There is a GIGANTIC water
fountain quite near the Airport.

Not one of my goals. I!ve only been in one Swiss airports, and that was
Zurich on departure, so I did have coins and don't remember hunting for a
free drink.(Ihad flown INto FRA that trip)

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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"tim....." wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message ...
Martin wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:17:54 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

Martin wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:55:21 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

"tim....." wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...
Martin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:32:32 +0000 (UTC), Erilar

.

Are you going to tell us exactly what happened to you at
Heathrow? I've used
all the London Airports, except Luton, Stansted and Southend, many times,
without ever having had a problem.

It's exhausting

as is any large airport where you land(/TO) at the far end of a pier.

This is just down to luck. It can happen at FRA, for example

and apparently has no water fountains,

it does now

just machines
requiring English coins,

and the shuttle buses between terminals in the airport in New York only accept
dollars. Somebody had to lend/give me the fare because there was nowhere to
change money in the terminal that European incoming flights used.

Revenge for Heathrow, perhaps! 8-)

Just consistent with Heathrow, :-)

I grumble about the size of O'Hare in Chicago, but there are water
fountains.

I don't know why you have singled out LHR for not having water fountains
just because American airports do.

IME most European ones don't, it isn't (wasn't) just London

Maybe other airports I've been through are more efficient so I don't get
stuck for long periods where there are none or there are only machines
requiring a kind of coinage I don't have with me. You may not have
noticed, but cash machines don't dispense coins.


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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

"Erilar" wrote in message
...
"tim....." wrote:

I don't know why you have singled out LHR for not having water fountains
just because American airports do.

IME most European ones don't, it isn't (wasn't) just London

Maybe other airports I've been through are more efficient so I don't get
stuck for long periods where there are none or there are only machines
requiring a kind of coinage I don't have with me. You may not have
noticed, but cash machines don't dispense coins.

was there really nowhere you could change a note into coins

I do this regularly when a bank machine only dispenses the local equivalent
of 50 pound notes and I know that (e.g.) the local bus driver isn't going to
be too happy when I try and pay him with it.

tim




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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

Martin wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 15:20:01 +0000 (UTC), Erilar
wrote:

"JohnT" wrote:
"Erilar" wrote in message
...

I grumble about the size of O'Hare in Chicago, but there are water
fountains.

I may not be a typical traveller, but the availability or otherwise of
water fountains has never figured at all in my evaluation of Airports.
Has Erilar even flown into, or out of Geneva. There is a GIGANTIC water
fountain quite near the Airport.

Not one of my goals. I!ve only been in one Swiss airports, and that was
Zurich on departure, so I did have coins and don't remember hunting for a
free drink.(Ihad flown INto FRA that trip)

You bought drinks from a machine with Euros in Swiss Franc land?

I normally have Euro coins left over from a previous trip. Since Zurich
was the end of my Swiss visit, I had some coins.

The place to go for free drinks at Zurich airport used to be the Swiss Air
business class lounge.


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Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad