Time to stop flying?

William Black wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mr. Travel writes:


No kidding. If they can screw up such basic stuff, it makes you wonder
about the really technical stuff.

Wonder = worry

If it's not Boeing, I'm not going.


When was the last time you took a flight anywhere?


I think he meant if it is not MS, he isn't going.

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

That's a neat way of describing squeezing your joystick.

There's no squeeze function on the joystick.

William Black writes:

Big simulator is it?

It's a desktop simulator.

William Black writes:

When was the last time you took a flight anywhere?

It has been some time. I hate to travel, and I've only traveled for business
when absolutely necessary.

JohnT writes:

As you never ever fly anywhere, your statement is hardly worthy of
consideration.

I have flown in the past. I try to avoid travel.

Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

That's a neat way of describing squeezing your joystick.

There's no squeeze function on the joystick.

Try it again.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins

Mxsmanic wrote in
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

That's a neat way of describing squeezing your joystick.

There's no squeeze function on the joystick.

Wrong joystick, moron!

"Benjamin Dover" kirjoitti
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

That's a neat way of describing squeezing your joystick.

There's no squeeze function on the joystick.

Wrong joystick, moron!

Sometimes you almost forget that the English chap is a fairy.

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:50:53 -0700, "Mr. Travel" wrote:

Larry in AZ wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, "KGB"
(KGB) said:


Off topic, but I used to live in a town where Nuclear Submarines are
built. The procedure is to build a complete hull section of the sub
flat on the ground, jack it vertical, move it into position and weld
it into place, then add another section etc.


Where was this..? I used to be an apprentice Naval Architect at Electric
Boat in Groton, CT, and to the best of my knowledge a sub has never been
assembled vertically, at least not in the USA.


Some years ago, it was only when they tried to figure out why the
internal decks didn't line up that they realized they had welded a
complete section in place upside down.


Sounds like an urban legend. I _so_ doubt this ever happened...


I don't believe it either, urban legned or not.

Hi

It did actually happen (early 1990s??) - at what was then the VSEL
shipyard in Barrow-in-Furness, England. There is an incorrect
reference to the incident at:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/fileon4_20040608_mod.pdf

The reference is incorrect in that the section was actually welded in
place upside down and it was only later when it was found that the
internal decks didn't line up correctly that the mistake was spotted.
It was eventually decided that it was simpler to just leave it as it
was rather than cut out the complete section and turn it round. The
mistake could - and did - happen because the (100+ tonne) completely
circular hull sections were built lying flat in a large assembly shed
then "winched" vertically, wheeled into position on a special low
loader and welded into place. When they hoisted it upright, they
mistakenly lifted from the wrong side. At this stage the pieces are
just bare hull sections and have no equipment fitted, so apart from
the internal decks not being in the correct location the mistake would
not be immediately obvious. There would almost certainly have been
brackets installed to mount equipment but it is far, far, simpler to
just cut a few brackets off and relocate them then remove a complete
hull section from a nearly completed submarine. Fortunately, the
section involved did not contain any major equipment (I think it was
just an accommodation section) or the situation would almost certainly
have been more serious.

The incident was common knowledge in the town, was widely reported in
the local press at the time and it was the talk of local bars for
weeks. I knew people who worked on the sub and were involved in the
incident - in fact I once worked at the shipyard myself but had left
by the time the above "error" took place.

Another cock-up they once made (and I have the photos to prove it) was
back in the late 1960s when they launched a Polaris submarine. There
is an island (Walney Island) opposite the shipyard and ships are
launched into Walney Channel. Unfortunately, they misjudged the
amount of drag chains needed to slow down the sub and it went down the
slipway, across Walney Channel like a rocket and up the other side,
leaving a complete (highly secret) Polaris submarine sitting high and
dry on the beach when the tide went out. Fortunately, they quickly
sent for a very powerful tug and managed to drag it off at the next
tide. This happened in the Autumn and had they not managed to shift
the sub on that tide, it would have had to stay there all Winter until
the high Spring tides occurred the next year.

I moved from the town some years ago, but know the shipyard does not
build ships the same way nowadays. They are not built on a slipway
and launched in a conventional manner but complete ships are built
undercover in a huge assembly shed and wheeled slowly down a ramp on a
special cradle into the dock area - a bit like launching a small boat
from a trailer.

Regards



KGB

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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William Black writes:

Big simulator is it?

It's a desktop simulator.

So it's not really a simulator then.

It's a piece of office machinery you play games on.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.