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Old November 4th, 2011, 03:00 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Nov 3, 6:42 PM EDT

Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit by
former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura in which he sought to challenge the
use of full-body scans and pat-downs at airport checkpoints.

Ventura sued the Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation
Security Administration in January alleging that the scans and pat-downs
violated his right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure.

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the court
lacked jurisdiction.

Ventura claimed that the titanium hip implanted in him in 2008 sets off
metal detectors and that agents previously used hand-held wands to scan
his body. He says he was subjected to a body pat-down after an airport
metal detector went off last November.

Ventura's attorney says Ventura will comment Friday outside the St. Paul
federal courthouse.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 03:10 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

I wrote:

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the
court lacked jurisdiction.


Airports continue to be black holes where the courts fear to tread.

Conventional laws and constitutional rights are suspended at airports,
and various levels of gov't and different departments point the finger
at each other when asked who is in charge or what authority gives them
the power they seem to believe they have over people.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 04:15 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 10:10:25 -0400, Fly Guy wrote:

I wrote:

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the
court lacked jurisdiction.


Airports continue to be black holes where the courts fear to tread.

Conventional laws and constitutional rights are suspended at airports,
and various levels of gov't and different departments point the finger
at each other when asked who is in charge or what authority gives them
the power they seem to believe they have over people.


You are entering a War Zone when you fly.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 02:12 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

I wrote:

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the
court lacked jurisdiction.


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http://news.yahoo.com/ventura-miffed...174718110.html

Ventura, miffed by court, says he's off to Mexico

ST. PAUL, Minnesota (AP) — Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura is so
upset by the dismissal of his airport security lawsuit that he
threatened Friday to apply for dual citizenship so he can spend more
time in his beloved Mexico — or run for president of what he labeled
"the Fascist States of America."

Ventura, also a former wrestling star, sued the U.S. government in
January, alleging that airport scans and pat-downs amounted to
unreasonable search and seizure. A district judge threw out his lawsuit
Thursday, ruling it should have been filed in a Circuit Court of
Appeals.

Ventura has said a titanium hip implanted in him in 2008 sets off metal
detectors and that agents previously used hand-held wands to scan his
body. He said he was subjected to a body pat-down after an airport metal
detector went off last November. Ventura said he hasn't flown since and
won't fly commercially again.

Outside the federal courthouse in St. Paul, with a crew from his
"Conspiracy Theory" cable TV show filming, Ventura said he hadn't
decided whether to continue pressing his lawsuit. He said he wanted to
make his case before a jury, not a panel of judges.

Ventura, a political independent who served one term as governor, teased
that he might have to run for president to change the policy and a court
system he regards as broken.

Moments later, he vowed to apply for Mexican citizenship so he can live
there more months of the year.

The former Navy SEAL said he had lost his patriotism.

"I will never stand for a national anthem again. I will turn my back and
I will raise a fist," he said.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 02:17 PM posted to rec.travel.air
Fly Guy
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Default Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

I wrote:

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the
court lacked jurisdiction.


Airports continue to be black holes where the courts fear to tread.


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http://www.infowars.com/ventura-decr...sses-tsa-case/

“The suit was thrown out because Congress set up the law so that all
such challenges must be brought directly in Circuit Courts of Appeals,
wrote U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson.”

“They said they don’t have jurisdiction,” Ventura told reporters. “Well
my question is if the federal courts don’t have jurisdiction over a
constitutional question then who the hell does?”

Speaking to the Alex Jones Show today, Ventura spoke of his fury about
how an American citizen was not even allowed to go to court to defend
the Bill of Rights, adding that from now on he would refer to the U.S.
as the “Fascist States of America” and would refuse to stand for the
national anthem.

“I want a trial by jury. They tell me I can have a jury decide my fate!”
Ventura said, refering to the judge who dismissed the case as a
“coward”. “If given a jury, I will win,” he added.

Ventura said the fact that he would have to go to the lengths of
becoming President simply to have his day in court with the TSA was
ridiculous. Asked by a reporter whether he was planning to run, Ventura
responded, “I’m thinking about it.”

“I will not, in a free country, be treated like a criminal,” said
Ventura, adding that he and his wife intended to apply for Mexican
citizenship.

Referring to 9/11, Ventura questioned the reasoning behind the whole war
on terror. “George Bush said we were attacked because they were jealous
of our freedoms. So we take away our freedoms so they won’t be jealous
anymore?” he said. “I think they’re winning.”
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Old November 6th, 2011, 12:56 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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"Fly Guy" wrote in message ...
I wrote:

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the
court lacked jurisdiction.


Airports continue to be black holes where the courts fear to tread.

Conventional laws and constitutional rights are suspended at airports,
and various levels of gov't and different departments point the finger
at each other when asked who is in charge or what authority gives them
the power they seem to believe they have over people.


I dont see that these security checks are unreasonable searches
and seizures, the key word being "unreasonable".
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Old November 6th, 2011, 05:21 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

In Fly Guy wrote:

I wrote:

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the
court lacked jurisdiction.


Airports continue to be black holes where the courts fear to tread.


In this case, the statutes were written to require that any challenge be
made in a federal appeals court. His lawyer probably knew that, but
Jesse wants the publicity of a jury trial which he wouldn't get there.

--
St. Paul, MN
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Old November 6th, 2011, 06:25 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Judge tosses Jesse Ventura's airport scans lawsuit

On 11/6/2011 11:21 AM, Bert wrote:
In Fly wrote:

I wrote:

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson ruled Thursday that the
court lacked jurisdiction.


Airports continue to be black holes where the courts fear to tread.


In this case, the statutes were written to require that any challenge be
made in a federal appeals court. His lawyer probably knew that, but
Jesse wants the publicity of a jury trial which he wouldn't get there.


Which statute would that be?

 




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