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Old September 7th, 2004, 02:14 AM
Matt
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"Bud A Bing" wrote in message
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Matt

Are you saying you would not object if your name was place on the list
without due process?


There is a difference between placing "me" on the no fly list and

placing
my
"name" on the no fly list. I would not object if my name was on the no

fly
list as long as there was then someway to differentiate "me" from the

other
person that shares my name.

Matt

There *is* a way to differentiate you. They hold you at the ticket

counter
until they can call a special number, give them your ID numbers, and clear
you for a boarding pass. Usually takes from 5 to 20 minutes.

Bud


Obviously that is not good enough solution.

Matt


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Old September 7th, 2004, 02:19 AM
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"Matt" wrote in message
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"Bud A Bing" wrote in message
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"Matt" wrote in message
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"anonymous" wrote in message
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Matt

Are you saying you would not object if your name was place on the

list
without due process?


There is a difference between placing "me" on the no fly list and

placing
my
"name" on the no fly list. I would not object if my name was on the

no
fly
list as long as there was then someway to differentiate "me" from the

other
person that shares my name.

Matt

There *is* a way to differentiate you. They hold you at the ticket

counter
until they can call a special number, give them your ID numbers, and

clear
you for a boarding pass. Usually takes from 5 to 20 minutes.

Bud


Obviously that is not good enough solution.

Matt

Yes - Obviously. We're not dealing with logic here. We're dealing with the
TSA.


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Old September 7th, 2004, 02:19 AM
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"Matt" wrote in message
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"Bud A Bing" wrote in message
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"Matt" wrote in message
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"anonymous" wrote in message
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Matt

Are you saying you would not object if your name was place on the

list
without due process?


There is a difference between placing "me" on the no fly list and

placing
my
"name" on the no fly list. I would not object if my name was on the

no
fly
list as long as there was then someway to differentiate "me" from the

other
person that shares my name.

Matt

There *is* a way to differentiate you. They hold you at the ticket

counter
until they can call a special number, give them your ID numbers, and

clear
you for a boarding pass. Usually takes from 5 to 20 minutes.

Bud


Obviously that is not good enough solution.

Matt

Yes - Obviously. We're not dealing with logic here. We're dealing with the
TSA.


  #74  
Old September 7th, 2004, 01:06 PM
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All tamils should should go into the 'No Fly List' because they are all terrorists.

-Punde
From Eelam
  #75  
Old September 7th, 2004, 02:54 PM
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Matt wrote:

Are you saying you would not object if your name was place on
the list without due process?


There is a difference between placing "me" on the no fly list and
placing my "name" on the no fly list. I would not object if my
name was on the no fly list as long as there was then someway to
differentiate "me" from the other person that shares my name.


What if you *are* the person who's name is going to be placed on the
list?

What then?

Do you care if there is due process involved?
  #76  
Old September 9th, 2004, 12:10 AM
Matt
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"Fly Guy" wrote in message ...
Matt wrote:

Are you saying you would not object if your name was place on
the list without due process?


There is a difference between placing "me" on the no fly list and
placing my "name" on the no fly list. I would not object if my
name was on the no fly list as long as there was then someway to
differentiate "me" from the other person that shares my name.


What if you *are* the person who's name is going to be placed on the
list?

What then?

Do you care if there is due process involved?


Well, as I said, I would like to be able to file an appeal, and then they
would either have to remove me from the list or get a court order to keep me
on the list. Is that not due process?

Matt


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Old September 9th, 2004, 12:10 AM
Matt
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"Fly Guy" wrote in message ...
Matt wrote:

Are you saying you would not object if your name was place on
the list without due process?


There is a difference between placing "me" on the no fly list and
placing my "name" on the no fly list. I would not object if my
name was on the no fly list as long as there was then someway to
differentiate "me" from the other person that shares my name.


What if you *are* the person who's name is going to be placed on the
list?

What then?

Do you care if there is due process involved?


Well, as I said, I would like to be able to file an appeal, and then they
would either have to remove me from the list or get a court order to keep me
on the list. Is that not due process?

Matt


  #78  
Old September 9th, 2004, 04:07 AM
Kari Sinhalavan
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"Lee Bell" wrote i
First of all, who are you and why should we believe that somebody that
admits to being a sexual abuser of animals?


If you want to ask about that then that will be a different discussion.
Stupid Americans like you can't comprehend what I mean.


We're bright enough not to take your word for anything. By the way, you
didn't answer the question.


Hey arsehole, answer my question. Why there is a problem in Sri Lanka
and why US is helping to killer Sinhala government? If you know this
then you could comprehend why Sinhala killer thugs ****ed lion!!!!!

Matt, you didn't get the point. It is US that control TSA list.

That's because it's a US list.

How come Professor Kantha's name went into that list?

Good question. Why don't you ask him?


It is because of US.


First you say it's because Sri Lanka wants it there, now you say it's
because of the US. Says who?


Hey arsehole what a moron like republicans? Who maintain TSA? It is
US. How Prof's name went into the TSA? It is to please Sri Lankan
goverment to utilise Sri Lanka for US global policy to police the
world moron. What a stupid I am talking to like Bush moron.

Is it because of US or Sri Lankan government using dirty tricks to put

his
name on the TSA
list??

You think maybe the US cares enough about this guy to add his name to

the
list of thousands we already have to keep an eye our for . . . just

because
they can?


If you are in the business of keeping the name in TSA keep it perfect
otherwise don't be in that business. I agree that US should keep the TSA

but
with very through check not on false propaganda to third world arseholes.


Here's a surprise for you. If we could be perfect in our lists of
terrorists, there would be no more terrorists. Life just isn't like that.
Further, for all we know, the list is perfect. We have only your word to
the contrary.


There wasn't any perfect in US. $260 mil went into sand like dust. It
wasn't perfect. So there can't be any perfect as moron thinks!!!

I just want to know who maintain that list and who
else have influence to force US government to enter somebody's name on
false accusation.

There was no accusation.
You don't know that there is not good reason for the name on the list.
There may, in fact, be more than one person with the same name somewhere

in
the world.
You don't even know that the guy that the posting was about doesn't

deserve
to be on the list.


Read the article again and it is clearly stated. English is not my first
language.


So what?


I am can't speak as your president!!!

hehehehehe

You want to know about the list, file a freedom of information request

with
the government.


If you are forcing other nations to follow then it is your ****ing

business
keep perfect or outsource to smart Indians.


Certainly it's my business. It is not yours . . . unless, of course, being
a agitator is your business.


IT IS MINE TOO ASREHOLE!!! If US made the unsafe it is my concern too.
Raping virgin South American rain forest for OIL and loot African OIL
and so on in the name of free market and close market for third world
goods. Shut the ****ing arsehole moron!!!!

If his name is entered in TSA list then how come he
is a good citizen while he is in US??

The people that financed and carried out the events of 9-11-01 were good
residents until they killed a **** load of US Citizens. BTW, your buddy
isn't a US Citizen. He may have been a resident.


NOPE!!! They have know these people are terrorist. Still they got the visa
and failed to follow it up.


Sorry, but I'm one of the people you're talking about. I'm part of the
government you're talking about and I'm one of the people who not only add
to, but monitor enforcement of prohibitions relating to terrorist lists.
You, on the other hand, are simply a full of ****, asshole, know-nothing.


You are the one said 9/11 terrorist were good resident before 9/11. I
told you US knows they were terrorist and still let them in
unmonitored. Now you are trying to retreat to rat hole as it is
government. You are one claimed as US government. **** you arsehole
know nothing except cowboy film and 50 states with-in US borders.

Lee

  #79  
Old September 9th, 2004, 04:07 AM
Kari Sinhalavan
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"Lee Bell" wrote i
First of all, who are you and why should we believe that somebody that
admits to being a sexual abuser of animals?


If you want to ask about that then that will be a different discussion.
Stupid Americans like you can't comprehend what I mean.


We're bright enough not to take your word for anything. By the way, you
didn't answer the question.


Hey arsehole, answer my question. Why there is a problem in Sri Lanka
and why US is helping to killer Sinhala government? If you know this
then you could comprehend why Sinhala killer thugs ****ed lion!!!!!

Matt, you didn't get the point. It is US that control TSA list.

That's because it's a US list.

How come Professor Kantha's name went into that list?

Good question. Why don't you ask him?


It is because of US.


First you say it's because Sri Lanka wants it there, now you say it's
because of the US. Says who?


Hey arsehole what a moron like republicans? Who maintain TSA? It is
US. How Prof's name went into the TSA? It is to please Sri Lankan
goverment to utilise Sri Lanka for US global policy to police the
world moron. What a stupid I am talking to like Bush moron.

Is it because of US or Sri Lankan government using dirty tricks to put

his
name on the TSA
list??

You think maybe the US cares enough about this guy to add his name to

the
list of thousands we already have to keep an eye our for . . . just

because
they can?


If you are in the business of keeping the name in TSA keep it perfect
otherwise don't be in that business. I agree that US should keep the TSA

but
with very through check not on false propaganda to third world arseholes.


Here's a surprise for you. If we could be perfect in our lists of
terrorists, there would be no more terrorists. Life just isn't like that.
Further, for all we know, the list is perfect. We have only your word to
the contrary.


There wasn't any perfect in US. $260 mil went into sand like dust. It
wasn't perfect. So there can't be any perfect as moron thinks!!!

I just want to know who maintain that list and who
else have influence to force US government to enter somebody's name on
false accusation.

There was no accusation.
You don't know that there is not good reason for the name on the list.
There may, in fact, be more than one person with the same name somewhere

in
the world.
You don't even know that the guy that the posting was about doesn't

deserve
to be on the list.


Read the article again and it is clearly stated. English is not my first
language.


So what?


I am can't speak as your president!!!

hehehehehe

You want to know about the list, file a freedom of information request

with
the government.


If you are forcing other nations to follow then it is your ****ing

business
keep perfect or outsource to smart Indians.


Certainly it's my business. It is not yours . . . unless, of course, being
a agitator is your business.


IT IS MINE TOO ASREHOLE!!! If US made the unsafe it is my concern too.
Raping virgin South American rain forest for OIL and loot African OIL
and so on in the name of free market and close market for third world
goods. Shut the ****ing arsehole moron!!!!

If his name is entered in TSA list then how come he
is a good citizen while he is in US??

The people that financed and carried out the events of 9-11-01 were good
residents until they killed a **** load of US Citizens. BTW, your buddy
isn't a US Citizen. He may have been a resident.


NOPE!!! They have know these people are terrorist. Still they got the visa
and failed to follow it up.


Sorry, but I'm one of the people you're talking about. I'm part of the
government you're talking about and I'm one of the people who not only add
to, but monitor enforcement of prohibitions relating to terrorist lists.
You, on the other hand, are simply a full of ****, asshole, know-nothing.


You are the one said 9/11 terrorist were good resident before 9/11. I
told you US knows they were terrorist and still let them in
unmonitored. Now you are trying to retreat to rat hole as it is
government. You are one claimed as US government. **** you arsehole
know nothing except cowboy film and 50 states with-in US borders.

Lee

  #80  
Old September 9th, 2004, 04:18 AM
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Matt wrote:
"Fly Guy" wrote in message ...

Matt wrote:


Are you saying you would not object if your name was place on
the list without due process?

There is a difference between placing "me" on the no fly list and
placing my "name" on the no fly list. I would not object if my
name was on the no fly list as long as there was then someway to
differentiate "me" from the other person that shares my name.


What if you *are* the person who's name is going to be placed on the
list?

What then?

Do you care if there is due process involved?



Well, as I said, I would like to be able to file an appeal, and then they
would either have to remove me from the list or get a court order to keep me
on the list. Is that not due process?

Matt


Due processs should occur before you are put on the list.

 




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