What is Aeroflot / Moscow Airport like???

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Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and will
risk flying an airline with a horrendous safety record to save a few
bucks. jh

You are pathetic.

Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US airline

?????

Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out
of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third
world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

I second what the poster said above. It's amazing that people will
risk their lives to save a few dollars.

Reminds me of a thread here a couple of years ago where people were
recommending PIA because they allowed smoking.

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

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Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and
will
risk flying an airline with a horrendous safety record to save a few
bucks. jh

You are pathetic.

Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US
airline

?????

Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out
of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third

You are pansy. I have once witnessed a prolonged landing in a flight from
Moscow to Helsinki by a Tupolev 154. We had a chance to see nice views over
the capital region. When we finally touched the runaway there were lots of
ambulances waiting us. We were never told the reason for this. Perhaps the
landing gear or some meters didn't work orderly. It happens.

world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

Have you ever been to the Lagos International Airport? Sheremtyevo is dull
(and cold as it is a big bird cage), however this suggests nothing on
robustness of Aeroflot flights. As well, we could say that don't fly KLMs
because the Lagos airport is so horrendous a place.

I second what the poster said above. It's amazing that people will
risk their lives to save a few dollars.

It is amazing only for very subjective reasons. Some people see Mary
Poppinses and Peter Pans along with pink elephants. Many people have seen
angels. This is amazing. Miraculous actually. I never attend AA flights from
the US east coast.

Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of me.

A friend of mine traveled to Russia, and flew Aeroflot on one international and
several internal flights. He was part of a group of scientists and business
types invited by the government there to observe manufacturing and scientific
installations for the purpose of gaining help from the West. As such, they were
flown "first class" everywhere. He brought back a collection of pictures of
beat up aircraft and balding or damaged tires on the landing gear, and those
were the aircraft that he actually flew on. There were also stories of poorly
insulated and very uncomfortable passenger cabins. Unless things have improved
over the past couple of years, I would avoid that airline if possible.

JDoe

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:46:15 +0200, "Markku Grönroos"
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world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

Have you ever been to the Lagos International Airport? Sheremtyevo is dull
(and cold as it is a big bird cage), however this suggests nothing on
robustness of Aeroflot flights.

No, but I don't think it was meant to. It was supposed to be an
answers to the other part of his question about what Moscow airport is
like.

On 9 Dec 2003 01:25:59 -0800, (Tchiowa) wrote:

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Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and will
risk flying an airline with a horrendous safety record to save a few
bucks. jh

You are pathetic.

Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US airline

?????

Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out
of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third
world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

I second what the poster said above. It's amazing that people will
risk their lives to save a few dollars.

You're correct in saying that people are increasing their risks to
save money, but you also need to take into account the actual level of
that risk rather than simply compare it. If there's, say, a one in two
million chance of being killed on a US airline, compared with a one in
a million chance on Aeroflot, then for me either would still be an
acceptable level.

What amazes me is how people are quite happy to take much higher risks
in their everyday lives and then put so much effort into unnecessarily
worrying about the airline they're going to fly on.

"John Doe" wrote in message
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Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out of
me.

A friend of mine traveled to Russia, and flew Aeroflot on one
international and
several internal flights. He was part of a group of scientists and
business
types invited by the government there to observe manufacturing and
scientific
installations for the purpose of gaining help from the West. As such, they
were
flown "first class" everywhere. He brought back a collection of pictures
of
beat up aircraft and balding or damaged tires on the landing gear, and
those

It is everyday life that tires go flat.

were the aircraft that he actually flew on. There were also stories of
poorly
insulated and very uncomfortable passenger cabins. Unless things have
improved
over the past couple of years, I would avoid that airline if possible.

Aeroflot is now an umbrella for dozens if not hundreds of companies.

"Chris Blunt" wrote in message
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You're correct in saying that people are increasing their risks to
save money, but you also need to take into account the actual level of
that risk rather than simply compare it. If there's, say, a one in two
million chance of being killed on a US airline, compared with a one in
a million chance on Aeroflot, then for me either would still be an
acceptable level.

It is known that Aeroflot as an international carrier has been reliable and
it is not prone for fatalities. Domestic fleet is known to be more or less
worn down.

What amazes me is how people are quite happy to take much higher risks
in their everyday lives and then put so much effort into unnecessarily
worrying about the airline they're going to fly on.

That's right. Traffic in Bankok alone kills half a dozens or so people every
day. If we compile a zillion different risk analysis reports and statistical
tables on people flying Aeroflot, we could draw a pie of risks during their
holiday in which one sector describes air crashes. Even if the pie was 10
meters in diameter, one couldn't see the sector by bare eyes.

John wrote:
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Amazing how many people think they have more than one life... and will
risk flying an airline with a horrendous safety record to save a few
bucks. jh

My parents flew to US by Aeroflot. THe flight was nice according to them
but Aeroflot misplaced their luggage, it is almost impossible to get any
sort of compensation out of them except a measly 50$ or something. They
found the bags after one month and delivered them to me. But the flight
from India - Moscow - US was much cheaper than other airlines. They got
a free upgrade to business class on one leg too.

You should stop driving, stop going out of your house, stop living in
your house lest it might collapse. That is the most stupid thing I've
heard. Do you even know how much less risky it is to fly than to do any
of the routine daily activities you do?

Thanx for the many replies!!!

I see a long discussion has started about Aeroflot's safety record.
Well, I'm not too worried about this. As long as the engines and wings
are visibly intact, I'm happy.

I was more worried about corrupt officials at the airport while in
transit. I guess passengers in transit are not hassled by dodgy people
wearing uniforms and huge official looking hats?

Kris



On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:42:02 +0100, Kris wrote:

Hi there - flying from Europe to Hong Kong via Moscow with Aeroflot.

3-hour stop-over in Moscow. What's the airport like, your regular
airport same as a thousand airports in the world???

Never flown via that part of the world, guess it's the same as
South-East Asia and China? Want to avoid any unpleasant
bribery/corruption issues while in transit (or did I see too many
movies?


Kris

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"Jacuo" wrote in message
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Aeroflot has very good safety records and IMHO is safer than any US
airline

?????

Have you ever been on an Aeroflot plane? I have. Scared the hell out
of me. Have you ever been to the airport in Moscow? I have. Third
world. Reminds me of Nigeria.

Yes 2 times. In my country ( Poland ) it is quite popular, because it is
good and chiper. Sheremetyevo is not a very nice place, but Moscow is OK.
I have never been in Nigeria, but Moscow is similiar to Paris.


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Jacek