HK is part of China, isn't it ?

Will start processing soon the HK photos and will create a photo gallery
inside the China section. Would anybody object to this ? Is HK China ?
The alternative would be to place HK as a separate country on the same
level as China, Thailand, Malaysia etc.

From a cultural point of view, HK is not part of China: different language,
different currency, totally different laws, different concept of human
rights, they must have a visa and a passport to go to China, and so on. So,
for a site about photography, I should consider the possibity to keep them
separate. Actually, all the sites I know about picture galleries,
netfriends and so on, they keep China, Taiwan and Hong Kong as separate
countries.

From a merely gepolitic point of view, HK is actually part of China.

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aka Senbee Norimaki
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:57:07 GMT, the renowned Senbee Norimaki
wrote:


Will start processing soon the HK photos and will create a photo gallery
inside the China section. Would anybody object to this ? Is HK China ?
The alternative would be to place HK as a separate country on the same
level as China, Thailand, Malaysia etc.

From a cultural point of view, HK is not part of China: different language,
different currency, totally different laws, different concept of human
rights, they must have a visa and a passport to go to China, and so on. So,
for a site about photography, I should consider the possibity to keep them
separate. Actually, all the sites I know about picture galleries,
netfriends and so on, they keep China, Taiwan and Hong Kong as separate
countries.

From a merely gepolitic point of view, HK is actually part of China.

If doing that, the standard approach is to refer to
"countries/regions", which tends to avoid the political carping.


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"Senbee Norimaki" wrote in message
...

Will start processing soon the HK photos and will create a photo gallery
inside the China section. Would anybody object to this ? Is HK China ?
The alternative would be to place HK as a separate country on the same
level as China, Thailand, Malaysia etc.

From a cultural point of view, HK is not part of China: different
language,

Fast becoming one.

different currency, totally different laws, different concept of human
rights, they must have a visa and a passport to go to China,

That is not true. There is no need for a visa or a passport. A HK
residence card and a "return to home village" card is sufficient.

and so on. So,
for a site about photography, I should consider the possibity to keep them
separate. Actually, all the sites I know about picture galleries,
netfriends and so on, they keep China, Taiwan and Hong Kong as separate
countries.

From a merely gepolitic point of view, HK is actually part of China.

--
Stefano
aka Senbee Norimaki
ICQ# 4243376

Now Hong Kong is a nobody, it's neither truly part of China nor a
British colony. Being a S.A.R. suck. Nobody that a lot of Hong Kong
citizens become confuse of who they're.

But another way to view Hong Kong is that... it's part of South East
Asia. So... It would probably put in the same region as Indonesia,
Malaysia, Thailand, Phillipines, and so on.



As for large part of Hong Kong citizens go to Hong Kong to escape
China.

In your mind only. But if it's true, then it would be kinda saying that
Hong Kong citizens are a bunch people of who are nothing more but throw
aways from other countries? A country or area being developed by a
bunch of criminals? Gee... That's not a nice way to view something.

wrote in message
oups.com...

As for large part of Hong Kong citizens go to Hong Kong to escape
China.

In your mind only. But if it's true, then it would be kinda saying that
Hong Kong citizens are a bunch people of who are nothing more but throw
aways from other countries? A country or area being developed by a
bunch of criminals? Gee... That's not a nice way to view something.


That's what others have being saying about Australia for years. We have got
used to it! Hong Kongers will too, in time!

Gerrit - Oz

That is not true. There is no need for a visa or a passport. A HK
residence card and a "return to home village" card is sufficient.


Yup, you're right.
Anyway, it's not exactly like to live in the same country, isn't it? I
mean: I live in Italy, and if I want to go to Tuscany from Sicily, I don't
need any residence card or "return to village" card, and I don't have to
change any currency, even if Sicily is a Special Administrative Region of
Italy.

Actually the real point is the huge difference of law: HK and China have
totally different institutions, concepts of human rights, relashonships
between citizens and Government, freedom of press and so on. I don't intend
to flame about which is better, I just say they're really different.

--
Stefano
aka Senbee Norimaki
ICQ# 4243376

wrote in message
oups.com...


As for large part of Hong Kong citizens go to Hong Kong to escape
China.

In your mind only.

Huh? Are you saying that the huge wave of refugees flooding HK in the early
fifties were there not to escape the communists? Learn a little history, my
friend.

But if it's true, then it would be kinda saying that
Hong Kong citizens are a bunch people of who are nothing more but throw
aways from other countries?

Not thrown aways. Refugees.

A country or area being developed by a
bunch of criminals?

Where do you see criminals? They escaped communist China. Is that
criminal?

Gee... That's not a nice way to view something.


To quote you, "only in your mind".

Alfred Molon wrote:
Is HK China ?

Was HK Britain before 1996? Would you have grouped it with England,
Wales, Scotland etc?
Its barely more chinese now than it was british then.

Do the Hong Kong people speak better Mandarin or English? (real
non-rhetoric question :-)

From a cultural point of view, HK is not part of China: different
language,
different currency, totally different laws, different concept of human
rights, they must have a visa and a passport to go to China, and so on.
So,
for a site about photography, I should consider the possibity to keep them
separate. Actually, all the sites I know about picture galleries,
netfriends and so on, they keep China, Taiwan and Hong Kong as separate
countries.


u probably do not understand the meaning of Chinese to make these senseless
comment.

for thousands of years, it is the chinese language that binds the chinese
together as a single civilisation, single empire, single dynasty, single
country, and nothing else.

cantonese, mandrian, hokkien, sichuannese, hakka, Taiwanese... all uses the
same form of chinese writtings abeit different spoken dialect, as oppose to
various form of written language in europe, which explain why europen
nations remain separated while China unified.

english might not make any sense to spanish both written or spoken, but
between cantonese and mandrain they share the same written characters. a
cantonese authur is understood by all chinese readers without any need for
translation...could a german authur enjoy the same freedom of communication
with the french or english or spanish??


concept of western law, human rights, market econ, and weath have taken
100yrs to develop in HK, or 50yrs in Taiwan... how long should the Mainland
China take to be on par with both HK or Taiwan, considering a 1.3billion
population, majority still heavily dependent on traditional rural
agriculture, and many still under extreme poverty..?

politically, it may be PRC, ROC, SAR, which explains the need for internal
visa or permit...but culturally, it is a common language, single entity. No
where on earth you see 1.3 billion people communicating using the same
indigenious language for so many thousand years, NOT even in India in the yr
2020.

therefore, if the photo gallery is meant to be political, u probably want to
separate it... otherwise, it make sense to group them together as one China.


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"Senbee Norimaki" wrote in message
...

Will start processing soon the HK photos and will create a photo gallery
inside the China section. Would anybody object to this ? Is HK China ?
The alternative would be to place HK as a separate country on the same
level as China, Thailand, Malaysia etc.

From a cultural point of view, HK is not part of China: different
language,
different currency, totally different laws, different concept of human
rights, they must have a visa and a passport to go to China, and so on.
So,
for a site about photography, I should consider the possibity to keep them
separate. Actually, all the sites I know about picture galleries,
netfriends and so on, they keep China, Taiwan and Hong Kong as separate
countries.

From a merely gepolitic point of view, HK is actually part of China.

--
Stefano
aka Senbee Norimaki
ICQ# 4243376

///Black and White/// wrote:
cantonese, mandrian, hokkien, sichuannese, hakka, Taiwanese... all uses the
same form of chinese writtings abeit different spoken dialect, as oppose to
various form of written language in europe, which explain why europen
nations remain separated while China unified.

I see, that explains why the UK and Ireland remain unified while Switzerland
is separated.

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