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waggg wrote:
http://www.jack-travel.com/Paris/Par..._Parisians.htm Paris-Parisians-Les Parisiens Who are the Parisians? Are they the prostitutes in leather mini skirts on rue St.Denis, the"clochard" sleeping off a bottle of red wine in the Metro, the society hostess in Chanel, the yuppie stockbroker weaving home from the Bourse on his scooter, the children from the Opera Ballet school affectionately know as "les petits rats", the au pairs hiding from their mothers in the city's American bars, the Algerian greengrocer or the Portuguese concierge, the stately African chief from Sierra Leone, the law student from La Sorbonne and the old lady in the in her bedroom slippers feeding the pigeons. People are what lend any city its vibrancy and Paris is no exception. Stripped of its human population, Paris would be no more than a collection of buildings and monuments, architecturally beautiful maybe, but a sad, cold place nonetheless. John Steinbeck once wrote: "No other city in the world has been better loved or more celebrated. Scarcely has the traveller arrived that he feels himself in the grip of this city, which is more than a city. A great part of the allure of Paris lies with the Parisians themselves, with their charm, their individualism, their diversity." For the 23 millions who visit it each year, Paris is a grand seductress, a mistress or a lover. Hundreds of thousands of people are carrying on an illicit affair with her. Some manage a quick fling, others the love affair endures a lifetime. But some visitors and Parisians have their favourite stereotypical types whom they love to hate, from the haughty, patronising shop assistant too busy adjusting her lipstick to give the customers the time of day, who refuses to let you enter his cab because are not heading in "his" direction, and to the indifferent bureaucrat who keeps you waiting for three hours only to inform you that you lack a vital document (usually your electricity bill :-)) without which he is unable to help you. But this happens in all major cities all over the world. Recent campaigns in the French press exhorted Parisians to good behaviour and deplored the sometimes-unfriendly welcome, which is become rather rare lately. Parisians are no longer under any illusions. Only 38 percent consider themselves kind, while almost unanimous 92 percent admit they are under stress. 82 percent also own up, with more than a touch of Gallic pride, to being "individualistes", a description which anyone who has had more than a passing acquaintance with the city may suspect of doubling as a convenient excuse for a multitude of sins of the "me first" variety. And yet, the American author Arthur Miller, who spent many years in the capital and was better placed than most to make and objective judgment, stated that he had more respect for the French "than any other nationality on the face of the earth." While conceding that "the French may not be the jolliest, happiest or the easiest people to get along with, a Frenchman makes the best kind of friend. Though he may be difficult to get to know, once he lets you into his life he'll be your friend forever. God save me from that kind of friends ! Syphilis, sive Morbvs Gallicvs (Syphilis, or the French Disease) is the title of a Latin epic poem written by Girolamo Fracastoro or Hieronymus Fracastorius, (1483-1553). It is the first known reference to this important French contribution to civilization. While Islam is the cancer of the world, France is definitely its syphilis. http://www.****france.com/index.html |
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waggg wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:29:48 GMT, "Dieter Aaaa" Dieter wrote: While Islam is the cancer of the world, France is definitely its syphilis. http://www.****france.com/index.html Do you realize that advertising and doinbg the apology of a website that contaisn ****-name.com is a serious indicator that your IQ is most likely below the average human level ? ... i do that just to upset you |
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"waggg" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:29:48 GMT, "Dieter Aaaa" Dieter wrote: While Islam is the cancer of the world, France is definitely its syphilis. http://www.****france.com/index.html Do you realize that advertising and doinbg the apology of a website that contaisn ****-name.com is a serious indicator that your IQ is most likely below the average human level ? ... yeah, but it's still a sure bet to be way higher than that of a person who confuses etiquette with intelligence... michael |
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waggg wrote on 6/25/05 3:27 PM:
On 25 Jun 2005 08:43:31 -0700, "Tchiowa" wrote: You mean to a once great wine that has since turned to vinegar, don't you? I've been to Paris at least 50 times. The first half dozen were interesting. Beautiful architecture and some interesting shops. Get past the buildings and there just isn't anything left worth bothering with. If you're going to Europe make it London, Budapest, Rome, Amsterdam or take a ferry down to Tangiers and over to Fez. Paris just isn't worth the effort. I would be courious what makes London, Budapest, Rome, Amsterdam or Morocco so much better. What are you searching in your trips ? It does not occur to some people that there are things inside of buildings. |
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waggg wrote: On 25 Jun 2005 08:43:31 -0700, "Tchiowa" wrote: You mean to a once great wine that has since turned to vinegar, don't you? I've been to Paris at least 50 times. The first half dozen were interesting. Beautiful architecture and some interesting shops. Get past the buildings and there just isn't anything left worth bothering with. If you're going to Europe make it London, Budapest, Rome, Amsterdam or take a ferry down to Tangiers and over to Fez. Paris just isn't worth the effort. I would be courious what makes London, Budapest, Rome, Amsterdam or Morocco so much better. What are you searching in your trips ? Culture. People. The Medina in Fez is "an adventure". You meet people with a dramatically different lifestyle and view of the world. Friendly, interesting people. Paris clearly used to be like that. But the bitterness of the French about everything in the world around them, particularly if you're English speaking, is palpable. They believe that they were once Masters of the World and they are bitter because they believe that England, US, Germany, basically everyone else is depriving them of their rightful place in the world. And it shows in their behavior. Get outside of Paris and you don't see that. But in Paris it dominates. You don't see that elsewhere in France. You don't see that in Berlin or Amsterdam or O Porto or Rome or London or ....... My job used to require that I go through Paris once a month. The first several times I made sure that I laid over in Paris for at least as week. Got disgusted with the place. Now I arrange to lay over in Bangkok or London or Perth or somewhere enjoyable. |
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Kenneth wrote:
It does not occur to some people that there are things inside of buildings. I guess you missed the point. I avoid Paris because that is all Paris has: buildings. The other cities have good people and great cultures and are enjoyable to visit. Even the museums are better in Amsterdam and Madrid than they are in Paris. |
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Tokyo has more money, has more industry, has more commerce, and has more
power. What it doesn't have is style. Kyoto, Osaka, Kobe, and Nara are all more interesting places to visit. HAHAAHAHHA oh man, kaz will think he's hallucinating |
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On 25 Jun 2005 23:30:43 -0700, "Tchiowa" wrote:
Kenneth wrote: It does not occur to some people that there are things inside of buildings. I guess you missed the point. I avoid Paris because that is all Paris has: buildings. The other cities have good people and great cultures .... and are enjoyable to visit. Even the museums are better in Amsterdam and Madrid than they are in Paris. -_- I guess everything is subjective. |
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On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:33:11 GMT, "michael" wrote:
"waggg" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:29:48 GMT, "Dieter Aaaa" Dieter wrote: While Islam is the cancer of the world, France is definitely its syphilis. http://www.****france.com/index.html Do you realize that advertising and doinbg the apology of a website that contaisn ****-name.com is a serious indicator that your IQ is most likely below the average human level ? ... yeah, but it's still a sure bet to be way higher than that of a person who confuses etiquette with intelligence... There's no need to talk about Netiquette. I wasn't. |
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