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Old July 15th, 2006, 08:59 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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B Vaughan wrote:
On 14 Jul 2006 12:01:22 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote:

I was under the impression the population of Africa was declining (Bob
Geldof), but JC thinks its increasing. Who is correct ??


You must have misunderstood. The population of Africa is certainly not
declining. The birth rate is declining, but it's still well above
replacement level. Maybe you heard birth rate and thought population?


You must have misunderstood.

always possible

but if I look at what is on the news about Africa its always doom and
gloom from a people / wildlife / environment perspective.

if the population is going up there will only be less to go round and
they will remain in poverty, with wildlife and environment suffering
the consequences.

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Old July 15th, 2006, 11:03 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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Hooverphonic writes:

if the population is going up there will only be less to go round and
they will remain in poverty, with wildlife and environment suffering
the consequences.


Correct. That's the problem with overpopulation anywhere (including
on the planet as a whole).

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Old July 15th, 2006, 11:50 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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On 15 Jul 2006 00:59:51 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote:

if the population is going up there will only be less to go round


Rubbish, whilst there is not an infinite amount of resources, there is
certainly more than enough for much larger population than the earth
has now.

Jim.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 12:57 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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Jim Ley wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 00:59:51 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote:

if the population is going up there will only be less to go round


Rubbish, whilst there is not an infinite amount of resources, there is
certainly more than enough for much larger population than the earth
has now.

Jim.


reducing the population would resolve all the other worldly problems
that we face.

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Old July 15th, 2006, 03:23 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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On 15 Jul 2006 04:57:19 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote:


Jim Ley wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 00:59:51 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote:

if the population is going up there will only be less to go round


Rubbish, whilst there is not an infinite amount of resources, there is
certainly more than enough for much larger population than the earth
has now.


reducing the population would resolve all the other worldly problems
that we face.


No it wouldn't, killing all pensioners would lead to a knowledge
deficit, and lack of cheap support for workers. Killing a large
proportion of the middle aged, would lead to no-one to do the work to
keep everyone else alive, and killing all the children (or stopping
more children being born) would do nothing to provide for those middle
group of people when they grew old.

I suppose you could selectively kill people, based on some sort of
testing, or maybe ethnic origin to reduce the impact, but I can hardly
see that as a way to resolve problems.

Jim.
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Old July 15th, 2006, 03:44 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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Jim Ley wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 04:57:19 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote:


Jim Ley wrote:
On 15 Jul 2006 00:59:51 -0700, "Hooverphonic"
wrote:

if the population is going up there will only be less to go round

Rubbish, whilst there is not an infinite amount of resources, there is
certainly more than enough for much larger population than the earth
has now.


reducing the population would resolve all the other worldly problems
that we face.


No it wouldn't, killing all pensioners would lead to a knowledge
deficit, and lack of cheap support for workers. Killing a large
proportion of the middle aged, would lead to no-one to do the work to
keep everyone else alive, and killing all the children (or stopping
more children being born) would do nothing to provide for those middle
group of people when they grew old.

I suppose you could selectively kill people, based on some sort of
testing, or maybe ethnic origin to reduce the impact, but I can hardly
see that as a way to resolve problems.


I was thinking, tackle the problem at source, i.e. have less kids.

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Old July 15th, 2006, 05:20 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
Mxsmanic
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Jim Ley writes:

Rubbish, whilst there is not an infinite amount of resources, there is
certainly more than enough for much larger population than the earth
has now.


How much, exactly, and with what standard of living?

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Old July 15th, 2006, 05:21 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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Hooverphonic writes:

reducing the population would resolve all the other worldly problems
that we face.


Perhaps not all, but certainly a very large number of them.

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Old July 15th, 2006, 05:21 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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Jim Ley writes:

No it wouldn't, killing all pensioners would lead to a knowledge
deficit, and lack of cheap support for workers. Killing a large
proportion of the middle aged, would lead to no-one to do the work to
keep everyone else alive, and killing all the children (or stopping
more children being born) would do nothing to provide for those middle
group of people when they grew old.


Nobody said anything about killing anyone, except you.

I suppose you could selectively kill people, based on some sort of
testing, or maybe ethnic origin to reduce the impact, but I can hardly
see that as a way to resolve problems.


Nobody said anything about killing anyone, except you.

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Old July 15th, 2006, 05:22 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.africa,rec.travel.misc
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~* Magda ~* writes:

Do like India and China - kill the girls.


Reducing the population doesn't require killing anyone.

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